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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 6:50:09 GMT 1
So there’s no option to increase capacity with the 250? Increase stroke? I saw a post about Fahron engineering converting 250 barrels to have you heard of this? search for fahron on here, you'll find lots of info about that. you can of course also fit the 350 parts, dont forget to do them all.
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 6:47:31 GMT 1
Mirrors not required for an MOT. Neither are indicators but if you have an indicator switch plod get interested. As I once found out. Alex yes if you have a switch then it has to work. But, you can just put some tape over the non working switch and the tester is not allowed to pull it off and 'find' and then test the switch. Funny rules, but thems what they is. Not many outside the UK understand that you can also have a daylight MOT, thats a quirk for sure of the UK system. In NSW you need 2 mirrors and everything must work. No mods unless they have been approved by an engineer... yeah i know... lol
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 1:50:38 GMT 1
He fired a lot of rounds really close to his target yet didnt hit him it seems.
Either hes an awful shot or didnt intend to actually shoot him?
Perhaps a Taser would be better?
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 1:48:49 GMT 1
Joking aside this build does look lovely all new a sparkly. Steve, youre doing a great job as ever mate.
I really think as a group our builds have really come on over the past 10 or so years, there is a lot of amazing workmanship on here, always was but now its even better.
Im certainly not complaining about that, its other people's builds that inspire me to do my things better and make me think differently so im not just copying and all that means that im always learning.
Keep doing what you do mate, better n telly!
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 1:45:00 GMT 1
them rims, lovely on a supermoto. Fixed it for you Dave
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 1:38:53 GMT 1
Wow! thats amazing Tim... I should commission you to make one for me of my 251LC.
{looks again at the pics}
Just mindblowing efforts mate. incredible.
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 0:31:51 GMT 1
If its in the original box they should have the part number?
It doesnt look fully N/F2 in the pics as you say Steve.
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2023 0:25:22 GMT 1
love the brake
dont hate the seat
have to say the belly pan isnt horrible and with the other mods does blend, but without its leaner and meaner
love the normal bars
{throws a new restyle idea in the mix, since others have lol} rear light needs recessing...
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 14:34:31 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 14:19:24 GMT 1
I know some of the parts on our bikes were used on other models and they had more useful parts books where all the parts were listed, weve seen this with brake parts etc. I was wondering if its the same with the Lc rear shock? The parts book looks like someone copied it from an earlier version and just left the selection of parts that include part 5 (its a bush and still available) off the final version. You can see that its quite obviously linked with the bump stop and that bush and yet doesnt have its own number for those parts. They all instead link to '2', which is the damper... which in the boxes dont all include those upper parts... I know as Ive got some here. hmm... they could have been robbed out, but it seems so unlikely as they are NOS just out of a dusty cupboard of a Yam dealer. Anyway, for clarity, the part I'm looking for is arrowed:
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LC loom
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 14:14:01 GMT 1
youre right Jon, its for running without the canceller and is standard to be unconnected.
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 13:43:32 GMT 1
Wow Jon You are a poet, and we didn't know it !! 🙂 Lol, er, no that's the poem from Martin's link, written by the (UK treasure) Pam Ayres! I could have a go in her style if you like... hmm... You got to look after yer pub, or it'll be burnt by some grub, he'll do it for cash n kicks and leave it a pile of bricks and all the locals he'll snub (apologies to Pam's 'Got to look after your teeth' original) I'll get me coat...
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 10:00:14 GMT 1
Wow! I thought she was long gone...
"The Crooked House, The Crooked House,
Somehow caught alight,
The Crooked House, mysteriously
Bulldozed in the night,
Little wonky pub, where folk forgot about their trouble,
Funny and familiar,
And flat.
Reduced to rubble."
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2023 9:57:02 GMT 1
Welcome!
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 14:04:46 GMT 1
Yes, thats exactly what I did re the loom Dusty. The nice thing is that the PV loom is rarely messed with and taped next to the main loom, so comes out in great shape.
I didnt use the Zeel as I wanted to use the 51L CDI for the 51L engine as Yam intended. Saying that on my 421 I have a piggyback Zeel so even sans PVs I had to fit two boxes lol. I just like to make my life hard i reckon lol
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 13:47:31 GMT 1
Ahh... yeah, I dont think anyone will be copying that lol Ta for asking him tho
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 9:13:43 GMT 1
ok. hmm, not masses of room but it fitted in there pretty well without being forced. Its not a big space but it did seem happy enough in there and i couldnt see any huge reason not to use it so I did.
My concern was the spring, but I tried messing with the space and it seemed to not come up far enough to cause any issue.
Interested to hear what you think when you have a gander.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 8:48:20 GMT 1
Ive had a look and Ive not got any pics, tho i thought i did some for the forum but i think they are gone now. Next time I pull the bike out I'll do some tho for you, how soon do you need? The YPVS controller to the servo 'loom' I simply stripped from a dead YPVS loom as it worked well, it doesnt interact with anything else at that point. Dead easy to integrate into a new loom, but agree its simple to just use the connectors and then make new cable. I was going to crack on with the loom today and tomorrow, so probably photos will be too late. I’ll check that location on my LC. Other thought was in the tail piece? Jon i'll try, i just dont have that much time right now and the bike is a bit buried at the back of my garage as im working on other things... The tail piece just seemed 'too easy' for a neat job, but yep no hassle to put it there of course, just longer cables.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 5:23:54 GMT 1
You'll find lots of bodges with the LC as well. Not just cos teenagers kept em on the road on a shoestring when they needed a cheap commuter, but also as in Aus everything it seems ended up as a paddock basher in the end. These bikes were also worthless at one point. You might get lucky and yours is in good fettle, but often the 'any bolt will do if fits' brigade will have had a go at some point. We were all young once... lol If you want to see some scary bodges sold as a running bike, check out Naich's thread on his bike and what he's discovered. scary. My fingers are crossed for you and im sure it'll be ok, everything is sortable with an LC. Put up some pics on here using the forum tags and let us know how youre going.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 3:47:49 GMT 1
Well since you did most of the IT work yourself then you'll be fine with an LC, its not difficult to work on really. Plenty of teens with a cheap socket set managed to keep em on the road in the 80s lol Parts are not easy to find in Aus, so get used to buying from abroad and long wait for post lol One of the reasons you dont need to ask for the latest about the LC is that not much new is happening. So the age of info isnt a huge deal with these bikes, its all still valid. Most things were found out in the 80s and are still relevant. Not everything new is better like you find with some bikes and in fact there often isnt anything new... nor has been for decades. This forum is a vast resource of info and 99% of things have been covered before. Its not often we find something new, but it does happen and its great to learn more when it does. You can rely on info on here, its not hear say. People here are experienced and have actually done the work unlike other places online. If you are racing there could be good info on the PCRA and other racer sites as some of those guys will help you as they want more people in the sport, but it should be said that creating an LC race bike in 2023 is less of a thing as they are worth too much really as road bikes now, its not 'cheap bike racing' like it was. Some of the Aus LC racers do hang out on here and may comment on that. FYI The banshee drives engine development of the base ypvs motor still in 2023, but few people offer new LC stuff as its all been done and most builders stay standard when doing an LC it seems... apart from pipes of course, and new pipes are computer designed and tested on a dyno so are absolutely better and will make power, unlike the old 80s stuff which mostly just made a nice noise. FWIW Mutts on here is doing LC development things, but no one in Aus AFAIK. LCs (and RZs) were a small market here and still are really. Really the development of LC stuff has been to remake parts to keep bikes on the road or allow them to be restored. You can now buy aftermarket bodywork, including new tanks as an example.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 3:04:45 GMT 1
Thats very nice indeed! I was interested to see the project you bought with integration of the 250 twin into the IT. I bet thats interesting and not something we see often. Putting the twin in a single space in a thin off road bike isnt easy and pics would be interesting to see how it was done. A few of us fancy doing this and I did once start to do the same with a KTM, but rego issues killed the project really.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 2:59:48 GMT 1
IMHO This forum is the best place for info on anything RD/RZ, especially if there is water involved. The AC forum is the place for wind cooled info. The USA forum is more based on YPVS bikes and facebook is, well, facebook. Say no more. Also, a good read for anything LC is rd350lc.net as thats got info and manuals. We say that a lot of people new to these bikes but it'll save a lot of time to have read Xavier's site as its so info rich, plus hes a nice guy too... and he's on here as well. As for expertise in building an engine, if thats what youre after, Id (and im sure everyone on here would too) advise you to do it yourself as I dont think many workshops here would have much idea about old two strokes. These engines are simple work on at home with help provided on here for your questions and issue found. Lots here have built bikes with all sorts of upgrades. Some guys whove built bikes were well out of their depth when they started and still did their own engine and other work and learnt a lot along the way about their bike as well as gaining experience etc. Your experience says that youre ahead of the curve on the tools I think, but its still worth noting that the engines and rest of the bikes are simple... designed for 18yr olds to butcher from new! haha. The manuals are available and search on here will answer most questions within seconds, else folks will always chip in if its something thats a new problem and perplexing etc. Have a good read in the builds section as that will give you an idea and possibly help lighten your wallet when you see things you 'must have' haha. Big bores, hybrids, more modern suspension/wheels and bodywork - lots has been done before. FYI since youre in VIC (I deduce from the rec plate in the pics) beware that the state rules are not kind to obviously modded road bikes... or so Ive been told, Im in NSW so not au fait with those rules but there are guys whove told me engineers certs are required.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 2:46:14 GMT 1
+2, looks great.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 2:39:27 GMT 1
Defo interesting idea Naich, keen to see how this works out.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 2:37:03 GMT 1
Never seen that spring or aware there was even provision for it, but also never had an early LC caliper. I see the hole in the pic in Steven's link, but had no idea it was there. Amazing to think that after all the years that everyday is a school day, but its not everyday you have your hands on all the parts from all the years. I cant think that a spring of that size would be strong enough to push the caliper enough to stop any movement really, i think its there to stop the plate from rattling. Pretty much any spring of the size would do this, maybe a kick start detent ball spring is similar? (As i said, Ive never had one so cant fully comment on what fits)
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 0:41:48 GMT 1
Ive had a look and Ive not got any pics, tho i thought i did some for the forum but i think they are gone now. Next time I pull the bike out I'll do some tho for you, how soon do you need?
The YPVS controller to the servo 'loom' I simply stripped from a dead YPVS loom as it worked well, it doesnt interact with anything else at that point. Dead easy to integrate into a new loom, but agree its simple to just use the connectors and then make new cable.
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2023 0:37:46 GMT 1
Looks like a good project. Whats the IT look like? Jon, are you in Australia? Yep.
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2023 14:11:52 GMT 1
As red998 said, there is no spring other than the pad spring.
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2023 13:44:36 GMT 1
Yep, thats where my 251LC's one is.
Ive not run this bike in anger yet so cant comment on how well the fixings I did will work, but its under the tank mount and above the shock. Tank and seat all fitted well with it fitted and jumping up n down on the bike didnt have the controller in the shocks spring... The connections fitted well there, using the stripped out PV loom from the YPVS etc.
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2023 3:09:09 GMT 1
There is a reason 99% of use let Arrow work on the pump for us, its not free but it is cheap insurance.
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