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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 20:36:34 GMT 1
Hi everyone, just getting to the point where I might get my 4l0 running after a lot of faffing. I have just looked at the carbs that came with this “runs like a good un” disaster and have seen that they are 4l1’s. There must be differences between the two but are they insurmountable. Could they be altered to suit the 4l0 or should I bite the bullet and get a set of 31k’s? Any advice appreciated. cheers Air corrector jet is the only difference between 4L1 and 4L0 carb bodies, the jet needle, needle jet, main jet and pilot jet are different, all are available, bodies on ebay, jets from Norbos shop, you can use the 4L1 floats, needle valves and throttle valves, bingo you have 4L0 carbs. so you reckon its just the air corrector that is different, so let me get this right, the 250 has just one spec of carb, or does it, well actually no there are at least 2 to my knowledge, 3 if you include those from certain parts of Europe. The 350 has at least 3 different specs of carbs, so what jetting are you going to use in the 250 carbs (assuming you know which spec you have), spec 1, spec 2 or spec 3, all have different setups, different needles, different needle jets, different mains, different pilots and all fuel differently, now I am no expert, but having serviced and repaired well over 200 sets of LC carbs and done heavens know how many dyno runs, tests, checks etc, I am still finding a suitable setup that works on any 250 carbs - and when I say works, it works everytime, not just for that bike I happen to be working on, but that's just my experience, hence my words of caution, I'd hate to see the poor guy blow his engine because he was told its easy
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 18:29:01 GMT 1
don't worry, I am retiring again now after reading all this and sending everybody their bikes bike not done, I won't mention your name when people ask why - honest and I am also going to put my prices up as Tony said it makes business sense to do so - so then I'll be able to retire even sooner, maybe even this week Joking aside, it is frustrating having to wait, the truth of the matter is, it will only get worse as more and more of us reach that age where we either have had enough or our health starts to fail us, you go to a main stream bike shop these days and ask for anything other than a service on a bike that is no more than 5 years old and you'll be lucky to get a response, let alone have anything custom done ! We are a dying bred I am afraid
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:41:00 GMT 1
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:40:25 GMT 1
can be done, but does require some faffing and ideally on a dyno so you can gauge it accurately, I have done a few, all with good results eventually, but so far I've not found a common setup, not sure why yet, need to do more conversions to draw a conclusion from all of the info I have
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:37:58 GMT 1
LOL - suppose if I stopped doing it altogether a lot of people would find out pretty quickly !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:29:55 GMT 1
Tony I really wish people would go elsewhere, but the majority just don't or won't, or have already tried and got ripped off, lets face it there are a good number of people out there doing 2 strokes, but only a handful doing it well, I hear so many horror stories of people getting ripped off etc, its heart breaking. If it was a car you have plenty of garages to go at, but specialised stuff, you are limited and stuck with what there is, which is getting less each day
In respect of the premium number, if I was an unscrupulous person then sure why not, but I am not, I'll help anybody if I can and if it doesn't require too much of my hard earned knowledge, I've shared lots on here over the years as it is, but recently its become a joke, especially on stuff I spent years sorting out, that is not going to be given away no matter who you are, how many times have we seen people asking for ignitech maps, wiring diagrams etc, etc - these have taken me years and many hours to sort and develop - yet people still think I am being unfair at times - you just can't win
As regards negative comments, if I have any so be it, you will always p*ss somebody off, even if you bent over backwards and shoved a broom up your arse, that's just the way of the world, some people you just can't please
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:20:41 GMT 1
don't get me wrong, some of us (me included) can take forever to get some jobs done, I am as guilty as the next man, there are many, many reasons why this is, some are simply because we are avoiding the job as its going to be a pain, but generally its because we are trying to save the customer some money.
If a job is going to be a major peice of work and take literally 10's of hours, I try and work on it in between other jobs (doing one like this at the moment), putting an odd hour or two in here and there moves it along without it costing the customer as such. I have done jobs for a good number of people on here where I've probably put more than 20+hours into it, but only charged them 10hrs for example, they don't need to know this, but it all helps and I am sure some of them know its taken way longer than I have charged.
I completed a job a few weeks back, it had been here 6 months, the total hours in the job was just over 90 hours, I charged the customer 60 hours, I still felt guilty doing that, but that 30+ hours I knocked off equates to over £1000
Sometimes its no obvious why jobs are taking so long, I try and keep my customers informed as I go, its hard to do at times, especially when it turns into a major peice of work
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 17:06:03 GMT 1
Is the person who is doing the chassis work the same individual who you were asking about a few months ago? If so unfortunately he is a victim of his own success he is also someone who appears abrasive but is actually a good bloke, his problem is he doesn’t want to let people down he puts himself under far too much pressure and then gets annoyed he can’t make his own deadlines. If it is him he has done several bikes for me I will always use him but you have to take any deadline with a pinch of salt. He is believe it or not a really nice bloke beneath the bluster. Other individuals that build pipes certainly in my dealings with 3 of them are decent hardworking and dedicated they do this work for the love of it I know a couple were very successful in other fields before transferring their skills to keeping these bikes alive and earn less money with more aggro but do it because they love it. Unfortunately you are approaching individuals who have fabulous reputations for their work and consequently are v busy. They may not work to your time scales however the demand means they take longer to do the work and turn stuff about . I’m not excusing rudeness but you may need to have a more patient approach to dealing with them as frustrating as that may be. The answer to the things listed is simple, don't say yes I can and will if your not going to, just say no I can't do it, if too much work, again say no, its simple really, don't get peoples hopes up to dash them, and there is no need to be rude either is there. Tony I get your point and I do this a lot (saying NO), when I say no I can't do anything for 6 months etc, the stock response is generally, that's ok I can await, or I'll drop the bike round and you can do it whenever, which is of no use whatsoever, and those that say they can wait, then call you a few months later to see if you can fit them in any sooner, you times that by a dozen each week and you can see how the frustration builds up. In respect of the original posters points, I agree all fair comments, but when I read stuff like that, I do wonder if I am included in those comments, no idea if I am or not, I try and respond to everybody, but it can be a week before I get to it, people today seem to have lost the ability to wait, everybody wants it now - drives me mad, and some people have no idea how long it can take to do stuff, especailly custom work, there are no drawings, templates, workshop manuals etc to refer to, its all your own brain work and engineering skills, this simply takes time to work it all out - you can't bodge or fudge it, you could kill somebody if you get it wrong, motorbikes are dangerous at the best of times in the wrong hands, let alone with bad engineering to add to it. When I read posts like this, it does give me cause to take stock (maybe a good thing) and recently I have been considering jacking it all in as it is no longer enjoyable when you see or hear stuff like this, of course what you don't hear is how the customer was on the phone in the first place, some customers are just down right rude and abusive, sometimes people are treated the way they are treating others and don't like it - that should never be forgotten - you talk to me like sh*t, you'll get one of 2 responses, the same verbal crap back, or I'll just put the phone down Reading this reminds me why I should go back into retirement !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 7, 2020 16:11:35 GMT 1
ok, its all fair comments, but coming at it from the other end, in the past 8+ weeks, being at the sharp end of this covid-19 mess, I have on average being getting some 20+ phone calls every day from people, some are potential customers, some are people just calling for help/advice, which is all well and good, but those of us in business DO NOT get paid for being a technical help line - and answering 20+ calls at an average of 15 mins per call per day - well you do the maths, but by way of example, one week I worked 76 hrs, when I looked at my day logs and sorted out the billing for the week, I actually only earned £50 for the whole week, the rest was spent answering calls, emails, messages, texts, forum messages etc - its very flattering to be thought of so highly, but I am not paying bills or doing work when this happens. Of course to the individual who is contacting me, they think its only them doing so, but its not, so don't realise the frustration building up inside - try being a one man band and getting hammered like this, you do run short of patience eventually, especially when you have lots of people buying stuff from elsewhere and then want you to sort it out for them ! It has got so bad now that I leave the phone in the office on silent, I look at it twice a day, normally around 8am before I start work and around 9pm when I finish, I then write peoples numbers and names down on my pad, its currently 3 pages of A4 full, I try and spend a few hours each day returning calls, texts, emails etc, etc - I am slowly losing the battle ! - plus I am not getting chance to spend time with my family I now have a rule that if somebody calls, but DOES NOT leave a message for me to contact them, then its not important so don't call them back, I hope when this madness ends, I can get back to some sort of normality, I know speaking to many other people in the bike trade, they are in exactly the same position, swamped with work, it seems everybody has just decided to spend their furloughed "paid" time off to get on with bikes/projects etc, but don't seem to appreciate that guys like me still working, don't get paid for doing nothing and are being bombarded from all angles just adds to ther stress of it all. Its Sunday and I am sat here currently returning calls etc, I've been doing this since 8am this morning, I am only half way down the first page, I have work stretching out to January and a lot of backlogged work I need to reschedule due to jobs being delayed due to the virus, so again, more hassle. I am extremely thankful to all my customers old and new, and those that have been very patient while stuff gets sorted, but now we have another issue, spare parts are beginning to dry up, I have some 24+ shock absorbers on back order, loads of engine parts and seals and other consumables, so its going to get worse for a while before it gets better - people need to try and think about what is happening at the other end of the phone, if your talking to me and catch me at a bad time, I do tend to be short, but that's me, TBH, I am too old and too ugly to care if people don't like it, generally I think most people find me ok, but we all have bad days - people should be making allowances for those who haven't had a break - I've not had a single day off since January 30th this year - not sure many of you can say that at the moment . On a final note, yes Ron is a top bloke, who is getting on, and when he retires etc, a vast vacuum of knowledge and getting stuff done will appear, some of us are working hard to bridge this gap, but I tried retiring once, it clearly didn't work out too well, for now I'll keep going, but sometimes I do wonder why I bother when I really don't need to I'll get off me soap box now
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 6, 2020 18:51:50 GMT 1
I'd say it's running good up to 8500 Just something wrong for 1000 rpm after that Steve Steve, your not wrong, but having had dicussions with Rob, we decided it was best to leave alone, we know what the issue is, but its not worth spending the money to fix right now as the bike runs fine and Rob has a rather bike powerful bike, so if he wants to go fast, he can go reeeeaaaaallllllyyyyyy fast if he wants on that bike ! - ask nicely Rob might tell you what he has !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 6, 2020 18:50:05 GMT 1
Pipes look great Oggy and I have the same ones on my LC2. I also have retained the centre stand but I will need to make a bracket for the stopper as the stand hits the pipe when taken down off the stand. Don’t not want to end up denting these works of art. John John, if using the centre stand, get a door stop or an exhaust bobbin (like you use to use on a Mini) and but it on the centre stand where it meets with the underside of the shocker, if you look at Oggy's bike you can just see the bump stop I fitted, that's the easiest way to do it - we use to put centre stops on, but found so many bikes centre stands to have stops in different places it caused more headaches than anything, so stopped fitting them, plus most people don't run centre stands HTH
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 6, 2020 18:43:44 GMT 1
ok, allsorted now, thanks for all your help guys, found a really good firm with excellent track record and sensible prices
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 6, 2020 9:45:02 GMT 1
Had a 18x20 ft lidget /Compton garage built 5 years ago to replace a single that was already there. Roof has a coating inside (can't recall its name) that eliminates condensation, I've never suffered any at all, nothing dripping from the roof ever. Double up and over doors with 4 point locking (Also added extra myself) and very pleased with it. They have a huge range of various types of garages, local agent is not too far away so I could get a good idea first before order, erection team were spot on, and had it up in no time. Had one issue when the personnel door became hard to close due to it dragging on the frame base, which was actually down to it being placed pretty close to the seam of the two concrete bases I had laid, too big to pour in one go, but they came out and re shimmed it 4 years after build, 10 year warrenty on the garage itself. cheers Rigga, thats good to know
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 5, 2020 22:42:11 GMT 1
Some good lads at Lidget ken, know their onions. that's what I want hear, I'd sooner pay a little more for a good installation etc, than a little less and get crap - Hanson Garages are a good price, but their reviews have put me right off !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 5, 2020 22:40:20 GMT 1
whats the garage like, just some have very thin walls and cheap shitty roofs etc, so any personal recommendation is better than reading various "reviews" online - I am looking to spend a decent amount on the right one
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 5, 2020 22:38:47 GMT 1
Would a decent shed not be a better bet if it's just for storage ? Look nicer, warmer, less condensation, easier to insulate, possibly cheaper to buy and easier to build. Probably easier to add on to if necessary too Dusty No, its to keep my bikes in and maybe the wifes car at some point, so it needs to be nice as it will be near the house, so needs to look the part, but then that also leaves the main workshop free for working in and a few customers bikes, I am wanting to get rid of my off site storage as I am always worrying about somebody breaking in and nicking the bikes !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 5, 2020 21:17:00 GMT 1
something else, mainly storage, not bothered about a bit on condensation, more about who I get it from etc and any issues like quality of product, thickness of walls etc
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 5, 2020 19:27:25 GMT 1
Guys, I am in the market for a prefabricated garage, I've been looking and ringing around and its a bit of a minefield TBH, so thought I'd ask if anybody has recently bought one (last 5 years or more) or has one and could let me know their thoughts on the issues problems with them e.g. condensation and if bought in the last 5+ years who you used e.g. Nucrete, Hanson etc, etc
I am looking for all and any feedback or experience so I can make an informed decision
Thanks in advance
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 4, 2020 22:33:39 GMT 1
I spend hours on the phone talking people threw problems every day. I dont mined its just part of the job. If you need anything i have all the diagrams and set up info from them i can mail you. Or they do have a web site you can always ask them about anything Specific. so do I Norbo when I've sold them the kit or parts, but I get all the calls from people who have bought them from you and elsehwere and that doesn't pay my bills
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 4, 2020 13:45:09 GMT 1
if 250 carbs, check what main jet is fitted, I've had to "down" jet, yes that's correct "down" jet quiet a few recently, not sure why, but those fitted with 190 mains where running horribly, some ended up at 180 and some at 170 mains, still think your windings or the pickup could be on their way, but check the main jet sizes as well
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 4, 2020 13:41:09 GMT 1
Ha Ha, you got a camera and microphone in my workshop !
Yeah, got your cases to do, hopefully do them on Saturday when I am doing some machining, so will be with you early next week all being well
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 4, 2020 12:37:09 GMT 1
the ignitech unit is a programmable CDI, it doesn't have a stator, regulator, flywheel etc, are you fitting a power dynamo system and just getting confused, or are you fitting a power dynamo system and an ignitech unit ? You need a premium rate telephone line like Stan 🤣🤣🤣 Steve Steve, you know my thoughts on this, don't get me going again ! I've responded to Craig's PM he sent me, and will help where I can, needless to say he didn't get the kit from me, so he's struggling somewhat and that's before we get into the mapping side of things, which I suspect his unit won't have one in that will work for him (I've made him aware) It really does p*ss me off, people selling stuff they can't support or even know what is required to get them working, leaving people in the lurch with hundreds of pounds worth of kit that they can't get working etc, given I am only a few quid dearer, I do sometimes wonder, still the maps are £500 if anybody wants to buy them, or just pay the extra £20 or so quid and buy from me and it comes preloaded with a suitable starting map and everything configured so it all works, plus of cpourse my wiring instructions - but why am I telling you this, you already know this - don't think you've had any issues have you with the stuff from me ? Oh well, another one will be along shortly, calling or emailing me for help ! - get at least 1 a week at the moment......gggggrrrrrr
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 4, 2020 12:24:54 GMT 1
what would be a real bit of fun is if we could all swap our usernames for a week so that nobody knew who was who, bet that would start some funny conversations off !
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 3, 2020 22:03:14 GMT 1
No Dave I get your name what about Alex’s donkeychomp? Never asked him, LOL - ok fair point, now I am intrigued now that you mention it !!
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 3, 2020 21:47:03 GMT 1
wot like....... mine ? what's more intriguing is all the kids I grew up with know me as Bill and all call me Bill when they see me, even now, of course my name is Dave as most of you know, nothing even close to Bill......go figure
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 3, 2020 21:26:15 GMT 1
the ignitech unit is a programmable CDI, it doesn't have a stator, regulator, flywheel etc, are you fitting a power dynamo system and just getting confused, or are you fitting a power dynamo system and an ignitech unit ?
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Post by muttsnuts on May 31, 2020 18:00:29 GMT 1
and if I was you I'd get one if you need one as that German price on ebay is cheaper than I can buy them in now, use to pay around £30 for them, now they are nearer £50, I spoke to the UK supplier where I buy them from and he said they had been priced up wrong for years and had been selling them at a loss, by all accounts a lot of suppliers had them p[riced worng, which suggest they where given the wrong price by Tourmax originally, or they have just cottoned on that there is a good market for them !
I have them on stock if anybody needs one, but not at £35 !!!
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Post by muttsnuts on May 28, 2020 20:03:55 GMT 1
A while back I put 2 Lockheed callipers on my 350lc and they felt very wooden. After taking advice from this forum I put a 250lc master cylinder on and it’s far better now. I think the 250 one is 1/2” correct, 250LC master cyl is 1/2" so 12.5mm which should be fine
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Post by muttsnuts on May 27, 2020 20:58:42 GMT 1
bike or car ?
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Post by muttsnuts on May 25, 2020 18:36:13 GMT 1
the recesss is in the thermostat housing, all the heads are flat where the housing fits, there are 3 different heads for the YPVS (Y1, Y2, Y3), but all of them fit the various engines
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