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Post by reggit on Sept 15, 2017 7:33:00 GMT 1
Also struggling with insurance carole Nash quoting £500!!! only pay £120 for my fazer 1000, Licence clean, no convictions, blah blah Wow! That's a lot. I have a multi bike policy with carol Nash. Fazer 1000 CB1000 'big one' 350LC Come in at just over £200 fully comp, not agreed value though.
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 8:53:38 GMT 1
Also struggling with insurance carole Nash quoting £500!!! only pay £120 for my fazer 1000, Licence clean, no convictions, blah blah Wow! That's a lot. I have a multi bike policy with carol Nash. Fazer 1000 CB1000 'big one' 350LC Come in at just over £200 fully comp, not agreed value though. Tell me, is one of those bikes down as your daily ride, getting to and from work, limited to X amount of miles per year? I've only ever had one bike at a time so have no idea how they work all the finer details out. I'm guessing that if you stated that you may use one of those classics to get to work occasionally, either they would say no period or the price would jump up?? I gather that you can only have/use one NCB period so insuring a classic with another company/on it's own either isn't possible or the premium would just be silly even for us older guys??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 9:15:14 GMT 1
I'm 57 and have all my bikes (values between £5k and £12k) are insured SD&P on one policy with Adrian Flux (BikeSure). The exception is the RGV500 as a hybrid it has an agreed value and is on it's own policy. I pay on average £70/bike on a limited use 2,000 miles per bike per year. I have CCTV, PIR alarms and all are chained up or have disk locks. Read the small print on any policy
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 9:22:13 GMT 1
I never had any problems with the LC's that I owned back in the day, are you having problems now just because they are so old, just like with any other classic vehicle I'm guessing?? Let's say that certain parts are shot by now, what if you replaced the whole carb (s) now for example, wouldn't that get the bike's reliability back to how it were?? I just refurbed my carbs with new jets , needles/seats etc from Norbo . When I looked at 'em first I found I'd one 250 carb and one from a 350 , hmm . I put up a notice here and got a reply from a forum member with the same dilemma , Sorted , with a perfectly matching carb in good nick . You won't get that on Ebay . It's worth having an LC just to be on this forum . And I'll let you know how the carbs work out , lol .
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 9:22:22 GMT 1
I'm 57 and have all my bikes (values between £5k and £12k) are insured SD&P on one policy with Adrian Flux (BikeSure). The exception is the RGV500 as a hybrid it has an agreed value and is on it's own policy. I pay on average £70/bike on a limited use 2,000 miles per bike per year. I have CCTV, PIR alarms and all are chained up or have disk locks. Read the small print on any policy Can I ask, how many bikes in total do you have then??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 9:39:16 GMT 1
I'm 57 and have all my bikes (values between £5k and £12k) are insured SD&P on one policy with Adrian Flux (BikeSure). The exception is the RGV500 as a hybrid it has an agreed value and is on it's own policy. I pay on average £70/bike on a limited use 2,000 miles per bike per year. I have CCTV, PIR alarms and all are chained up or have disk locks. Read the small print on any policy Can I ask, how many bikes in total do you have then?? Twenty one all 2 strokes When buying the most important thing is the state of the engine and is it all there. A professional paint job is £800 but if it's on the last bore and the crank is knackered the bike is not worth much. Wheels can be refurbished to original, tanks/running gear/nuts/bolts are all available from Norbo. Powder coating is cheap and hides a multitude of sins. The rivet counters drab olive can also be restored. I wouldn't be paying £8k plus for an LC and if I did I'd want proof of engine work and a guarantee. For that money I'd expect them to have the heads off for you. Personally paint is the last thing I worry about but here's on of my VJ21's It's probably not going to be used very much
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 9:59:16 GMT 1
Can I ask, how many bikes in total do you have then?? Twenty one all 2 strokes When buying the most important thing is the state of the engine and is it all there. A professional paint job is £800 but if it's on the last bore and the crank is knackered the bike is not worth much. Wheels can be refurbished to original, tanks/running gear/nuts/bolts are all available from Norbo. Powder coating is cheap and hides a multitude of sins. The rivet counters drab olive can also be restored. I wouldn't be paying £8k plus for an LC and if I did I'd want proof of engine work and a guarantee. For that money I'd expect them to have the heads off for you. Personally paint is the last thing I worry about but here's on of my VJ21's It's probably not going to be used very much Blimey, I weren't expecting that many,...where is your garage/museum, can I come and have a look around? Lol Thanks for the tips/advice, I'll only be looking to buy one 350LC myself, apart from the issue of garage space, the wife would certainly kill me. Lol
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 10:07:27 GMT 1
22!! Wow , the bug bit deep , lol . I'd love that but funds always eluded me, haha . Can I have a look round with earthman when I get my bike running ? Nice one !
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 10:19:09 GMT 1
Personally paint is the last thing I worry about but here's on of my VJ21's It's probably not going to be used very much Beautiful Machine ! They need to be used though , no ?
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 15, 2017 10:21:27 GMT 1
There was a time when the first question I would ask would be about the internal condition of the tank, when buying an Lc. The engines are simple to work on - anyone can do it with a basic collection of tools, plus a couple of special items like clutch holding tool and flywheel puller, but they aren't expensive tools anyway. But a rusty, leaky tank was a big issue, not easily solved, and certainly not by the average home tinkerer. Lots relied on lining dodgy tanks with varying amounts of success, with tank sealants - not ideal. Then the copy tanks appeared in India - they look good in ebay pics but guys that bought them, desperate for a good tank, soon found they were pretty poorly made, often didn't fit or weren't accurate to an original. Then Norbo got some excellent copies made - I've got them on both my hybrids - and now, a rotten tank isn't a reason to walk away from a possible purchase bike. Don't get me wrong, a complete engine build will cost as much as a tank and respray, but at least the engine build can be done by you, saving more money than getting a shop to do it. Ultimately you get what you pay for, but there is no reason to fear any leaky tanks or dodgy engines as long as the price reflects it. Dusty
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 10:43:40 GMT 1
There was a time when the first question I would ask would be about the internal condition of the tank, when buying an Lc. The engines are simple to work on - anyone can do it with a basic collection of tools, plus a couple of special items like clutch holding tool and flywheel puller, but they aren't expensive tools anyway. But a rusty, leaky tank was a big issue, not easily solved, and certainly not by the average home tinkerer. Lots relied on lining dodgy tanks with varying amounts of success, with tank sealants - not ideal. Then the copy tanks appeared in India - they look good in ebay pics but guys that bought them, desperate for a good tank, soon found they were pretty poorly made, often didn't fit or weren't accurate to an original. Then Norbo got some excellent copies made - I've got them on both my hybrids - and now, a rotten tank isn't a reason to walk away from a possible purchase bike. Don't get me wrong, a complete engine build will cost as much as a tank and respray, but at least the engine build can be done by you, saving more money than getting a shop to do it. Ultimately you get what you pay for, but there is no reason to fear any leaky tanks or dodgy engines as long as the price reflects it. Dusty Many thanks for that info Dusty, never knew that such tanks were available.
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 15, 2017 11:38:14 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 11:46:24 GMT 1
To qualify the only issue on barrels is if they are on the last rebore. You can always go to a big bore kit but more expense. If the bike is complete then you can rebuild/replace/refresh anything, but the likes of side stands, side stand lugs can be difficult to source if you want it original. If cash is no object you can make it like new. You won't get your money back though, well not this year.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 11:49:47 GMT 1
Beautiful Machine ! They need to be used though , no ? Agreed, I have 6 bikes taxed and MOT'd for use on the road. I rotate the others at track days. The only 2 that haven't been ridden this year are one of my RG400s the blue VJ21 and my 3MASP. The RGV500 did break down though and hasn't been fixed yet :-(
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 11:50:13 GMT 1
Norbo's page is great,.....until I joined here, I never would have guessed that you could still get so many parts.
Are there ANY parts that are impossible to get now? Watched an old YouTube video, guy mentioned the original exhaust pipes and centre stand, is that still the case?
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 15, 2017 12:35:06 GMT 1
Lots of parts are nla from Yamaha, but a surprising amount of parts still are. Mellorp raises a good point about barrels, as most would have had a good few rebores by now. It is possible to get worn or damaged barrels relined though, taking you back to a standard bore. Pjme do it. Means you can salvage knacked barrels, probably cheaper than buying a slightly less knacked pair on ebay !! In fact, lots of genuine engine parts are still available new, and what isn't obtainable as nos is readily available in good pattern - like Mitaka for pistons/rings, clutch baskets and crank parts. Metmachex engineering were reproducing side stand brackets, to be welded onto your frame if it was missing one. You can now get good, re manufactured wiring looms too. Lots of firms will spray, weld, rebore, crank rebuild or fabricate whatever you need. If you read Practical Sportsbike mag, lots of owners say how hard it was to track down parts for their Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki builds, but that isn't the case for Lc's and Pv's on the whole. The downer is that certain parts are becoming very expensive, as sellers know guys like us really want the part to finish a build. Trawl ebay for a month and you'll probably see every single part you would need to build a bike complete, but brace yourself for some of the prices !! Even non Yamaha parts are getting very expensive ie. Suzuki Rgv forks/wheels - coz sellers know we snap them up for ever popular hybrid builds. Clocks for an Lc - about £100 complete approx. 2-3 years ago, now £300 plus. A set of carbs, 18 months ago maybe £100 max, now people are asking double that. That's why you are best to buy as complete a bike as possible, to save more money on missing bits. There is nothing you cant get, or get done really, it's just your wallet/missus/bank account that is the limiting factor. I've spent fortunes on mine over the years but they have given me immense fun building them and I wouldn't be without an Lc/pv project in the shed. And for the first time ever, after 30 years or more of building all sorts of bikes, I would probably get my money back, which would be a first !! Now hurry up and buy one, the value has gone up £500 since you started this thread !! Dusty
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 13:14:47 GMT 1
Lol, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that last bit, maybe I shouldn't have started this thread.
If it's fate, that I'll end up owning one of these bikes again, maybe a Winter project bike will be more likely,.....I really don't know at this stage to be honest.
At the end of the day, I would want a reliable/usable bike, whether or not someone else has got it to that stage already or not.
Like I've said, got to get back on one first, I hope that the experience results in me Really wanting one.
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 15:33:02 GMT 1
Beautiful Machine ! They need to be used though , no ? Agreed, I have 6 bikes taxed and MOT'd for use on the road. I rotate the others at track days. The only 2 that haven't been ridden this year are one of my RG400s the blue VJ21 and my 3MASP. The RGV500 did break down though and hasn't been fixed yet :-( Definitely woudn't be nice if the Peelers took one off you for no tax ! And 22 taxes adds up .
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 15:42:43 GMT 1
Really enjoying this thread , it's great to know there's loads of us ,haha !
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 16:01:49 GMT 1
Really enjoying this thread , it's great to know there's loads of us ,haha ! I'm wondering, some owners forums have a 'pinned map' showing roughly where folk are,.....could that be a feature here? Any particular areas got more owners than others?
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 17:02:06 GMT 1
The affliction seems to have infected us without regard to Geography I'm afraid . There's people on here from all corners and , no doubt , from around the corner .
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Post by doohanno1 on Sept 15, 2017 17:15:54 GMT 1
The affliction seems to have infected us without regard to Geography I'm afraid . There's people on here from all corners and , no doubt , from around the corner . Jeez Kev you should organize a lc get together in the Republic.Would there be 22 in total.
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 17:24:43 GMT 1
I'd say you'd be hard pushed now . Might be good to get some of the Lads over from the other Island for a look at the road racing . I live 20 mins from Rosslare Ferryport and have a big garden for tents , Must stick the feelers out and see if anyone is interested for Skerries or Faugheen next year . Hopefully my bike will be up and running crisp by then , lol .
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Post by doohanno1 on Sept 15, 2017 18:17:44 GMT 1
I'd say you'd be hard pushed now . Might be good to get some of the Lads over from the other Island for a look at the road racing . I live 20 mins from Rosslare Ferryport and have a big garden for tents , Must stick the feelers out and see if anyone is interested for Skerries or Faugheen next year . Hopefully my bike will be up and running crisp by then , lol . For some reason i thought your were over in the west.. There is a guy on here from the South that has a load of lc's and pv's... Next time my wife chucks me out i"ll be down with my tent..lol..
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Post by KevtheRev on Sept 15, 2017 18:22:45 GMT 1
Nice one ! Don't let slip where you're goin' tho ' , lol !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:30:45 GMT 1
I'm guessing that most of you on here owned an LC back in the 80's when you were a young lad? I certainly did, I have a few questions for you. 1. What's the main reason you own one now, surely it's not the only bike you own? 2. Do you actually ride it much or tend to look/polish it more, keeping it to sell for a profit in the future? 3. If you do ride it, how reliable can a 40 year old vehicle be? Do you find it really difficult to get parts?? 4. How do you find the 'riding experience' of this bike now you are middle aged? In one way I'd like to buy/own an LC again but I do wonder a) how much I'd actually use it, considering that I own a modern 1200cc bike and b) will my perception of ownership now be totally different considering that I'm not 19 any more. Fkin ell man Have you bought one yet or what !!!!!
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Post by paulincayman on Sept 18, 2017 18:51:23 GMT 1
Do it man!
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Post by earthman on Sept 18, 2017 20:08:19 GMT 1
I'm guessing that most of you on here owned an LC back in the 80's when you were a young lad? I certainly did, I have a few questions for you. 1. What's the main reason you own one now, surely it's not the only bike you own? 2. Do you actually ride it much or tend to look/polish it more, keeping it to sell for a profit in the future? 3. If you do ride it, how reliable can a 40 year old vehicle be? Do you find it really difficult to get parts?? 4. How do you find the 'riding experience' of this bike now you are middle aged? In one way I'd like to buy/own an LC again but I do wonder a) how much I'd actually use it, considering that I own a modern 1200cc bike and b) will my perception of ownership now be totally different considering that I'm not 19 any more. Fkin ell man Have you bought one yet or what !!!!! I spoke to a bike shop/dealer about one today funny enough, planned to do the trip of about 200 miles up there to have a proper look/test ride, guess what, he said that they don't do test rides period, you can hear any of their bikes run, play with the lights etc but that's it. Well I've never heard of that, I've never found a test ride at a bike shop/dealer to be a problem before.
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Post by veg on Sept 18, 2017 20:21:30 GMT 1
What are your expectations of a test ride ? Yep they be slow, yep they don't handle, yep they don't brake. Mate this isn't the latest jap 4 that you are comparing to another jap four. Keep the rose tinted googles on remember what they were when you had hair and could get into a 28 inch waist jean get one get out and spank it.
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Post by earthman on Sept 18, 2017 20:42:15 GMT 1
What are your expectations of a test ride ? Yep they be slow, yep they don't handle, yep they don't brake. Mate this isn't the latest jap 4 that you are comparing to another jap four. Keep the rose tinted googles on remember what they were when you had hair and could get into a 28 inch waist jean get one get out and spank it. Just to see that I can physically ride the thing without getting wrist, back or knee ache. cycle-ergo.com/This site gives me a 19 degree forward lean for example, my current bike is zero and I've been use to that for a long time now,.....I kind of ruined my joints due to power lifting/gym work etc during my twenties, I certainly can't ride the likes of an R1 any more. I don't remember my LC's feeling like I were leaning forward much but that were a long time ago.
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