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Post by yamark on Jul 27, 2014 9:44:50 GMT 1
Got a decent centre stand [German bike], and had it powder coated to match the frame, new hardware to install it
Inner mudguard with new CDI bolts. I dismantled the swing arm and found new bushes already fitted! Checked the steering head bearings and found new tapered bearings and dust cover, re-greased new top race cover, adjuster nut and top yoke bolt fitted.
New wiring loom,[because I had crap crimped connectors on CDI, generator, reg/rectifier, I replaced all three with low mileage ones]
Airbox next, perfect 2nd hand one sourced, new bolts, washers
Top shock bolt, lower pin from the same German bike, new nut washer etc
Start assembly
Chain guard was OK to reuse after a clean up,
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Post by yamark on Jul 31, 2014 20:34:16 GMT 1
Brake calipers were very worn with a crack on one of the lugs. I was sent this pair and warned they were a bit weathered. So stripped of paint, steam cleaned, de greased and rebuilt with new parts from the man with 1 name.
After inspection they have very little wear, bleed valve threads are perfect, good considering it looks like they went down with the Titanic
High temperature paint
Wheels back to metal
Brake plate and sprocket carrier stripped/painted
Horn brackets seen better days, before and after
Engine on the bench at last, but the cylinder head was stuck on. Fifteen minutes with a soft hammer coaxed it off. RED HERMATITE!
Cylinders off and this carnage greeted me. I posted these pic's up a month ago in the help section so thanks for all the replies.
Got away with a hone and new pistons
Also got a pair of 4LO crankcases, low mileage radiator on it's way. More parts on order with Norbo and Yamaha. On its way from Germany, low mileage impellers, worm drives, but best of all a solid original fuel tank and don't ask me how but a pair of 3,000 mile exhausts still in their original finish. all on their way.
I'm taking my KY jelly with me when I see my bank manager
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Post by yamark on Aug 3, 2014 14:53:26 GMT 1
Busy few days, footrest hangers to be restored,
Wheels painted and polished, god I hate doing wheels
New rear footrests complete
New parts to rebuild hangers
I sorted stuff for Zinc plating, including a load of new bolts/screws that Yamaha have changed the finish of[water pump screws, top crankcase bolts and fuse box screws]. There's not a lot of parts for plating as just about every nut, bolt and screw is new.
Got lucky on Ebay, this lot arrived from Germany- I paid £19 including postage-result
Fuel tank arrived, it's got a little bit of rust inside, but very solid
I also collected my crankcases [4LO], left engine cover, and 2 right engine covers from my mate Dean. He media blasted them.
The crankcases, carbs and fuel tap will be vapour blasted, side covers will be stoved in satin black.
I've got another load of parts to come from Norbo and Yamaha
I'm going to wait for the crankcases to come back from vapour blasting before delving into the engines bottom end so I cane just swap all the parts over after inspection
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Post by lcyoungboy on Aug 3, 2014 17:14:53 GMT 1
Great job..keep up the good work
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Post by yamark on Aug 3, 2014 17:56:48 GMT 1
Thanks Dave for your encouragement, just read you build, your doing a grand job. Tackle the engine yourself, LC's come apart very easily. Store engine parts together with bolts and washers. I often cable tie parts together in the order they are removed. If you have any problems there's plenty of help on this forum. Keep up the good work
Regards Mark
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Post by yamark on Aug 3, 2014 19:07:39 GMT 1
Missed a couple of pic's
How crap does that look, brush painted with hammerite me thinks
More parts
New pump, [the bike had a 250 pump on it causing the piston/cylinder damage]
Rebuilt calipers fitted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 20:15:10 GMT 1
Great work mate, I've got a 250LC to sort out throughout this year along with an MT50 and a mini moto haha buy too many and never start them! Will be following this build! have fun and happy building
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Post by yamark on Aug 3, 2014 21:02:59 GMT 1
Thanks Luke, a warm welcome to the forum. Get started on the 250LC and post some pic's up. We love pic's. MT50 is interesting. Are the parts hard to get? Am I thinking of the right bike- Honda, around 1980?
Regards Mark
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Post by rcr on Aug 4, 2014 0:51:05 GMT 1
Nice collection!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 19:42:42 GMT 1
Thanks Luke, a warm welcome to the forum. Get started on the 250LC and post some pic's up. We love pic's. MT50 is interesting. Are the parts hard to get? Am I thinking of the right bike- Honda, around 1980?
Regards Mark Hi mark, yes the good ol' Honda MT50 lovely little bikes! I've got most the parts to repair it but really need a wiring loom, don't suppose you know of any around do you? Regards, Luke
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Post by yamark on Aug 4, 2014 20:38:35 GMT 1
Thanks Luke, a warm welcome to the forum. Get started on the 250LC and post some pic's up. We love pic's. MT50 is interesting. Are the parts hard to get? Am I thinking of the right bike- Honda, around 1980?
Regards Mark Hi mark, yes the good ol' Honda MT50 lovely little bikes! I've got most the parts to repair it but really need a wiring loom, don't suppose you know of any around do you? Regards, Luke Hi Luke, If you want to repair the loom yourself Vehicle Wiring Products 01159305454 . Also Kojaycat do all the original style bullet connectors 01414162400 or if you want someone to renew or repair your loom Ferret 07765832420, classic motorcycle mechanics use ferret for all their electrical problems/ rebuilds. Second hand Ebay or DK breakers [largest in Europe] 01782250177
Hope that helps All the best Mark
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:20:53 GMT 1
Hi mark, yes the good ol' Honda MT50 lovely little bikes! I've got most the parts to repair it but really need a wiring loom, don't suppose you know of any around do you? Regards, Luke Hi Luke, If you want to repair the loom yourself Vehicle Wiring Products 01159305454 . Also Kojaycat do all the original style bullet connectors 01414162400 or if you want someone to renew or repair your loom Ferret 07765832420, classic motorcycle mechanics use ferret for all their electrical problems/ rebuilds. Second hand Ebay or DK breakers [largest in Europe] 01782250177
Hope that helps All the best Mark
Thank you mark, I'll get onto some of them after work Friday! thanks again, now get some more pictures up! haha
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Post by yamark on Aug 5, 2014 19:41:38 GMT 1
Crankcases, carbs and fuel tap back from vapour blasting. I installed a Teflon bush into the lower case for the gear change shaft
Carbs rebuilt , ultrasonic clean ,steam cleaned, blasted then two more times into the ultrasonic tank [hope the air jets aren't blocked].
Zinc plating back, love shiny bits [sorry for 2 images, didn't know which was better. David Bailey I aint]
Yet more new parts from Norbo and Yamaha. My OCD is beginning to kick in, I just ordered a new headlight because the one I fitted has a tiny mark on it, but hey, nobody has said I'm OTT yet
I should get a chance to post pictures of the bike outside in the next couple of days
Cheers to all of you following
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Post by steve h on Aug 5, 2014 19:47:45 GMT 1
I hope the head bolts get a green passivate
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Post by yamark on Aug 5, 2014 20:02:02 GMT 1
I hope the head bolts get a green passivate Steve, are you trying to play on my OCD. I've never really liked the "green bits" on LC's- I like bright zinc, side cover screws will be BZP as well. Also black for the horn bracket, lower yoke, brake pedal etc.
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Post by Ragger rd on Aug 5, 2014 20:47:52 GMT 1
Yea green mastabate bolts sucks,it's only used by people who don't ride there bikes ,bike is going to look new mate keep spending lol
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Post by marsbar350 on Aug 5, 2014 21:05:49 GMT 1
Yea green mastabate bolts sucks,it's only used by people who don't ride there bikes ,bike is going to look new mate keep spending lol mines got a lot of green bolts thrashed to within an inch of its life at the cadwell classic bike days were you there? must of missed ya
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Post by Ragger rd on Aug 5, 2014 21:54:19 GMT 1
To far away from me,everything seems to be up north
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Post by steve h on Aug 5, 2014 22:39:26 GMT 1
I hope the head bolts get a green passivate Steve, are you trying to play on my OCD. I've never really liked the "green bits" on LC's- I like bright zinc, side cover screws will be BZP as well. Also black for the horn bracket, lower yoke, brake pedal etc.
They look in good nick too. They must of escaped the mangling delt by pipe grips and molegrips. Surprising really, as these go hand in hand with self tapers and crush connections.
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Post by yamark on Aug 6, 2014 6:47:05 GMT 1
Steve, are you trying to play on my OCD. I've never really liked the "green bits" on LC's- I like bright zinc, side cover screws will be BZP as well. Also black for the horn bracket, lower yoke, brake pedal etc.
They look in good nick too. They must of escaped the mangling delt by pipe grips and molegrips. Surprising really, as these go hand in hand with self tapers and crush connections. Surprised me as well, just about the only bolts to have escaped the previous butchers. [Don't forget pliers and adjustable spanners] I'm convinced the bike was assembled by a gorilla and Stevie wonder, using rusty bolts found in the road.
But the polished turd is a lot less whiffy now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 19:06:16 GMT 1
Crankcases, carbs and fuel tap back from vapour blasting. I installed a Teflon bush into the lower case for the gear change shaft
If anyone can help me out, my LC's leaking oil from a couple of the lower sump bolts. I'm guessing the washers are buggered but can anyone help with what washers they are, whether they're fibre or copper? I'll try and get a picture, but for now I'll steal Mark's ( hope you don't mind) it seems to be coming from the front row of bolts. Thanks
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Post by yamark on Aug 6, 2014 20:42:17 GMT 1
Luke, it's very unusual for the underside crankcase nuts to leak. The leak is nearly always from a different source, often the gear change shaft(the shaft wears the lower case}, or clutch cover, or sump bolt, or left crank oil seal. Also the oil pump can works loose but this is quite rare. The oil collects on the crankcase nuts. If you look at the start of my thread you will see a picture of the oil where you are talking about. This was due to the gear shaft.
Hope you find the leak. I clean everywhere and stick tissue at points I think might leak.
Good luck Mark
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Post by bogbrush on Aug 6, 2014 21:48:25 GMT 1
Really enjoying your resto thread, it's giving me the inspiration I need to get another lc on the road. Looking forward to your next post.
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Post by yamark on Aug 6, 2014 22:25:14 GMT 1
Cheers Bogbrush [great name], glad it's inspiring you, and a warm welcome to the forum. I'll try to post up more pic's tomorrow as exhausts and rad arrived. Also fitted the clocks tonight.
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Post by spacejunkie on Aug 7, 2014 0:12:30 GMT 1
Gonna be doing the same to mine soon your build looks sweet.
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Post by yamark on Aug 7, 2014 16:21:26 GMT 1
Cheers Spacejunkie, look forward to seeing your build
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Post by yamark on Aug 7, 2014 17:16:55 GMT 1
Radiator arrived' before picture
Rad after steam clean and an hour with tweezers straightening the fins. New grommets fixings and spacers
Clocks just needed a clean as they have been restored by the previous owner, but ordered a lower cover as it's scratched, new mounting bolts/washers
More parts, as more mullers become apparent, tie bar bolts, rear wheel spacer cover [NLA from Yamaha], from Yambits. Padded out the order with silly little bits Tool kit is a cheat, new from Suzuki for an AP50 but has nearly the same tools as the LC, not marked as Suzuki and cost new £20
Horn bracket cover thingy with new screws and washers
More parts from Yamaha, pattern chain adjusters were s**t so bought genuine, bargain gen tacho cable off ebay more screws and washers
Headlight bracket re painted new bolt/washer
Exhausts - very low mileage, still in their original finish, great find thanks to a overseas contact
Finally bike back on it's wheels, new 5/8 master cylinder fitted with new hoses, pads, banjo bolts, bled and working. All parts from Norbo
I know the clocks are mounted on top of the bracket but they have to come off again for the lower cover to be replaced. Some bolts are just placed in position an finger tight. I know how eagle eyed some of you are!
You can see the new indicator wires I replaced and lengthened as cheap ones came with the bike. [Probably buy gen yam later]
That it for now as I'm off on holiday for 2 weeks, but late next week my lad will post up how we do handlebar grips
TO BE CONTINUED ..............
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Post by raider18 on Aug 7, 2014 19:23:51 GMT 1
keep up the good work looking sweet
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Post by yamark on Aug 7, 2014 23:09:22 GMT 1
Thanks Raider for your encouragement, engine is next job to do when I get back from my hols
Cheers Mark
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Post by yamark on Aug 23, 2014 9:19:54 GMT 1
Hi all, back from hols. This is how I do grips. This method is how golf club grips are done and is perfect for bike grips as your grips will never slip or move. First step obvious, start with a clean handlebar
Next, spiral grip tape onto handlebars and remove tape backing. [tape is cheap on Ebay search golf club grip tape, buy the one on a roll not in strips].
Plug the hole on the end of the grip , and pour thinners into the grip about 2 cm will do. Then cover open end with your hand and shake the grip to coat the inside in thinners. Next pour the contents of the grip onto the tape on the handlebars and remember the thinners might take the paint off your switchgear!
Remove plug in the end of your grip and slide the grip on. You have to be quite quick as the thinners which has turned the glue slippery on the tape evaporates in 30 secs. Push the grip on and line up straight. After around 45 secs the grip will be hard to move.
Wipe any thinners up and your done - grip will never move as rain doesn't affect the glue and you don't get sore hands. If you want to remove the grip [in tact] in the future put a thin screwdriver in the hole at the end and lever to one side and spray WD40 between grip and handlebar. Keep spraying/ twisting, it does come off. To remove an old grip just knife through it. Pics of throttle side
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