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Post by rigga on Sept 28, 2021 20:52:11 GMT 1
Dockgate 20
Not the best experience, although I will say one of the salesmen (Darren) was excellent, unfortunately he passed away at a young age, very sad.
Tubbs the head tech guy was a dick.
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Post by steve h on Sept 28, 2021 22:21:42 GMT 1
The Buells make so much sense to me, I don't want 150+mph or 170bhp...not interested. But these.. Big twin, torque, handling, relatively light, but most of all, a low version that I could reach the ground on. Shame that Harley dealers retailed/hated them...well they did in my local H/D outlet...now defunct
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Post by veg on Sept 28, 2021 22:34:21 GMT 1
Exactly why I like them Steve quick enough plenty of torque, handle well and they’re different.
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Post by steve h on Sept 28, 2021 22:43:36 GMT 1
I think Eric is a gifted engineer. And yes, I also like the fact they are "different" and challenge the "normal". But perhaps the being "different" contributed to their downfall and commercial failure under HDs stewardship somewhat, as so many find "different" hard to accept.
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Post by JonW on Oct 18, 2021 6:07:33 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Oct 18, 2021 17:03:56 GMT 1
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Post by steve h on Oct 18, 2021 17:26:37 GMT 1
?? Cancel culture?
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Post by veg on Oct 18, 2021 17:51:28 GMT 1
Un woke you mean?
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Post by steve h on Oct 18, 2021 19:35:08 GMT 1
No.., "V8 and 5lts" might have triggered some cancel spy software installed by insulate Britain or some other sanctimonious do gooding organisation/terrorists. Outragous...V8s and 5ltrs!!!!! When we are in a climate crisis!!!! Cant chat here.... that huge pile of tyres in the garden wont burn themselves.... oh dont worry, thet are being re cycled into carbon and I will capture it in a plastic bag then probably hang it from the nearest tree..... with all the bagged dog turds....
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Post by rigga on Oct 18, 2021 20:28:06 GMT 1
I think it was the wheeler dealer episode with the 430 Griff, I watched it the other week, in fact at the end, when the new owner was viewing the car, there was a meeting of owners not too far from me, was asked to attend, but simply cannot stand Brewer, so couldn't be arsed.
Nice car though with factory history.
Another story about TVR, when the Cerbera was being developed, Peter wheeler took a version on a big road trip with the then new AJPv8 engine, went through a ford and ingested some water, carried on back to the factory and mentioned it felt a little lumpy, stripped the engine and found the crank had snapped, but was still running ..... tough thing.
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Post by JonW on Oct 18, 2021 22:57:30 GMT 1
Ahh, its been deleted. Thats a shame. As Rigga said, it was the wheeler dealers ep with the 430 Griff. Looked a nice car and interesting history.
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Post by veg on Jul 3, 2022 20:18:57 GMT 1
So I’ve done a compression test and it isn’t looking good. So it’s a rebuild time. Thankfully I’ve mates who work on these regularly and my younger brother used to build these for Tvr power as well build race engines. So it could be worse.
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Post by donkeychomp on Jul 3, 2022 21:15:03 GMT 1
How bad is it Tim? Just one cylinder or more? Could just be the rings. Fingers crossed mate.
Alex
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Post by veg on Jul 3, 2022 21:30:56 GMT 1
Two cylinders are well down 135 psi, coupled with the smoke etc when it happened. Done a head, however my brother reckons it might have also dropped a liner as well. So it’s heads off, but I’ll get the whole motor done, probably blue printed and a slightly pokier road cam. Brother will do it for free, he used to build these engines for road and race, he also was involved in Indy Car racing for TWR, as well as TVR and the owner of TVR Power is also a mate.
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Post by donkeychomp on Jul 3, 2022 22:24:29 GMT 1
That's cool. Didn't know you had another brother lol.
Alex
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Post by veg on Jul 3, 2022 22:43:11 GMT 1
2 brothers, and my brother from another mother 😁
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jul 4, 2022 8:37:48 GMT 1
That's a p1sser Tim but somehow inevitable when you own one of these lovely things
Steve
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Post by veg on Jul 4, 2022 9:28:55 GMT 1
That’s so true Steve my missus was completely anti me getting it, my lad has always taken the piss out of dads kit car. The reason I spent what I did was I tried to minimise the risk by buying the best I could. I didn’t expect it to be as reliable as my old 911, but even so. 700 miles and a catalogue of problems. Hopefully though this will mean it’s done properly and well.
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Post by JonW on Jul 4, 2022 13:39:56 GMT 1
Yeah it sucks when you buy something and it lets you down, no matter what it is. Funny thing is my old Tam was totally reliable through blizzards and heatwaves. it was pretty new at the time, but the thing that was unreliable was the dealers who tended to make problems occur when it went for normal servicing
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Post by rigga on Jul 5, 2022 12:15:52 GMT 1
It's a pisser when this happens , but on the bright side, once rebuilt, it'll be a sweet runner, and for a very long time. Obviously not gonna tell you how to suck eggs, as the knowledgeable people you know will be on top of this, top hatted liners, and a carefully selected cam will wake the engine up,and increase reliability.
Turbo it for added shits and giggles.
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Post by steve h on Jul 5, 2022 12:30:55 GMT 1
Did TVR use a std Rover engine? Or did they use different pistons, cams ect? Should be a lot cheaper to rebuild with Rover parts than aftermarket specialist parts? As said, you'll end up with summat spot on
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Post by rigga on Jul 5, 2022 12:57:24 GMT 1
Standard 4.0 ltr engines were shipped to TVR power in Coventry,and then modded to TVR spec ,bored , stroked and different cams ,bigger valves and heavily gas flowed.
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Post by veg on Jul 5, 2022 13:17:55 GMT 1
If I could afford it I would super charge it, but once done it should be circa 300/320 rwhp which as you know rigga is enough in a 1000 kg car. I’ve been given a big disc set it’s already got e36 brakes but these new ones are mahoosive discs and calipers. I’ll also need to get a set of nitrons or the like sooner or later.
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Post by veg on Jul 5, 2022 13:18:46 GMT 1
Standard 4.0 ltr engines were shipped to TVR power in Coventry,and then modded to TVR spec ,bored , stroked and different cams ,bigger valves and heavily gas flowed. And my mate owns the company Steve so all good really.
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Post by veg on Jul 5, 2022 13:20:15 GMT 1
Yeah it sucks when you buy something and it lets you down, no matter what it is. Funny thing is my old Tam was totally reliable through blizzards and heatwaves. it was pretty new at the time, but the thing that was unreliable was the dealers who tended to make problems occur when it went for normal servicing The reason I didn’t go for an AJP was because of reliability and expense, today though they should be well sorted.
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Post by JonW on Jul 5, 2022 13:41:17 GMT 1
Yeah it sucks when you buy something and it lets you down, no matter what it is. Funny thing is my old Tam was totally reliable through blizzards and heatwaves. it was pretty new at the time, but the thing that was unreliable was the dealers who tended to make problems occur when it went for normal servicing The reason I didn’t go for an AJP was because of reliability and expense, today though they should be well sorted. Yes I was no fan of the AJP V8 and I'd had Rover V8s before, thats why i was keen on the Tam as it had the more 'modern' Speed Six and i have to say it was a hell of an engine for the time (in a good way) and I really enjoyed it. Mine was reliable so cant comment on any issues other people had.
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Post by veg on Jul 5, 2022 14:58:23 GMT 1
I know it had certain limitations and needed quite a bit of retrospective work to make good on the design. Al Melling I believe thought very highly of himself and that wasn’t always reflected by those that knew of him. It was I believe rushed into production probably quicker than it should have been. The customer ended up doing some of the testing. However having said that I’d do like both the later speed six and V8 models and if money were no object I’d have one of both. Like that’ll ever happen. 😁
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Post by rigga on Jul 5, 2022 21:50:22 GMT 1
AJP and speed six were well designed engines ,Al Melling ,for all his self promotion, has a huge history in engine design, for multiple manufacturers, up to and including formula 1 level.
AJP V8 is basically a race engine, adapted to road use, very revy, very powerful for its capacity ( at the time )
Stories are often told that when it was designed, and then released , it went through some changes by TVR, in order to negate crediting Melling with the design, and reducing payment.
AJP designation is from three influential members of the project Al Melling John ravenscroft ( TVR head engineer) and Peter wheeler ( TVR owner )
It could have been so much better than it turned out from launch , and the warranty costs for failed engines killed the company, wheeler sold it to a russian oligarch's son, but it was doomed as soon as it was sold, wheeler also stiffed him on the factory building.
TVR specialist companies , like TVR power, straight8six and others reworked the engines , mainly head design and oilways , and it's now a really good reliable engine, shame it wasn't from the start.
Veg, I have the BMW Brembos on mine, and they are excellent, bigger brakes like the AP versions may need alterations to the rear or master cylinder for balance. Cars are weird as the rears are larger than the fronts disc wise standard.
Nitrons are very good , I've pro tech and can recommend them on customer service alone , had three rebuilt and didn't charge me a penny.
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Post by veg on Nov 5, 2022 18:10:58 GMT 1
So not good news, radiator f**ked, coolant hoses split, and the engine has ingested water through the head/gasket. 1 cylinder had half a cup of water/coolant in it. So it’s a new coolant system, hoses and radiator. Full engine rebuild etc etc etc even at mates rates through power it’s the price of a std 4l0. Oh and when I got it ready to be loaded on the transporter to power I split the rear screen. Then just to rub salt in the wound my mate showed me his 460 bhp sagaris.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 5, 2022 18:28:36 GMT 1
Ouch 😖
Steve
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