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Post by ducatidave on Feb 22, 2013 12:54:04 GMT 1
Does any1 know anything ?
Also wen it aply,s
Fallowing on from post ( import 350lc)
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2013 15:03:58 GMT 1
hereyago...........  |
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Post by ducatidave on Feb 22, 2013 18:22:03 GMT 1
Thanks muts nuts need pul my finger out then n get sorted b4 this
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2013 22:00:02 GMT 1
yeah, even though no VAT will be payable, you still need to submit a customs and excise decalration to that effect, most registration applications fall at this hurdle because they don't supply the C&E form to the DVLA, which is the process at the moment, so what ever you do, don't forget to fill that form out and send it with the other paperwork to DVLA
HTH
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Post by billyboy on Feb 24, 2013 22:50:30 GMT 1
more $hite to fill in, am i reading it right its an online notification ?
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Post by steelerd on Mar 24, 2013 20:01:41 GMT 1
so whats the crack with registering them now got 2 350s with german log books I need to get sorted out before this comes in to force  ones in complete bits an others sorta a bike haha Thanks, Tom |
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Post by soccersmyth on Mar 24, 2013 21:02:09 GMT 1
Can't see it effecting any bike that has the german equivalent of the V5.
Just another form to fill
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Post by bryan on Mar 24, 2013 21:02:36 GMT 1
Should not matter with vehicles/frames that are already here, as they are.....already here and imported b4 the new rule comes into effect.
Can only asume people who purchase vehicles later on that have no record of Duty paid woud catch up the cost if the vehice comes from outside the EU, which is the case now isnt it?.
You are required to sign and give in the Customs declaration when you hand in the V55 at your local DVLA office, I think it was form VAT 414, can anyone confirm that as I did mine 3 years ago.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 25, 2013 9:18:53 GMT 1
Waiting for a Swiss DT125 being delivered just now.
Seller has said he is waiting for the paperwork to come back from C and E and has assured he will forward this on but still concerned with the reg process even if I get the paperwork.
Steve
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Post by bryan on Mar 25, 2013 10:57:15 GMT 1
I found the process fairly straightforward when I did mine, but I did have a German V5 which removes the need to get a dating letter and the DVLA office wanting to look at the bike. I got the bike MOTd on a Saturday, Insured it on the Monday, got the Insurance cert went to DVLA office in the week and received the letter with reg number and Tax disk on the Saturday. Soon as you have it you can get the plate made up and use it from the day you wanted it regestered.
It was about 5 weeks till the V5 came through in the post, I had to return it as there was an incorrect entry on it, so check all the details on it when you get it.
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Post by moist on Mar 29, 2013 10:32:38 GMT 1
just heard of the first details, after 14th April, DVLA will not register any imports unless the import declaration was made. Currently there are no exemptions for bikes already here. Got this from DVLA in Oxford when I registered an LC this week. Think this will change as more people have problems....
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Post by bryan on Mar 29, 2013 12:10:15 GMT 1
so If its already here and not regestered buy that date, it can never be regestered in this country.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 29, 2013 12:18:10 GMT 1
problem is that i never imported mine from switzerland so i cannot declare it was paid. the seller said the relevant paper work to prove it was paid was sent to customs and excise weeks ago and has not come back so if lost or telling porkies i am stuffed.
would i just be able to rip up the swiss reg doc, get a dating cert and plead ignorance with where it came from.
steve
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Post by billyboy on Mar 29, 2013 19:49:58 GMT 1
aw gawd ,looks like i might be sitting on a very expensive pile of bits and hundreds of hours down the drain .! iv'e been slowly building a 4l0 hybrid starting with a german frame and no paperwork and there is no chance its going to be finished by the 14th of this month , from what i can understand of the goverment blurb you just need to submit the vat form along with the other relevant paperwork , what else has changed ?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 29, 2013 22:46:25 GMT 1
aw gawd ,looks like i might be sitting on a very expensive pile of bits and hundreds of hours down the drain .! iv'e been slowly building a 4l0 hybrid starting with a german frame and no paperwork and there is no chance its going to be finished by the 14th of this month , from what i can understand of the goverment blurb you just need to submit the vat form along with the other relevant paperwork , what else has changed ? From what that notification says it is only for bikes imported after that date so would think as long as you can prove it was already in the country it will be ok. As for duty apparently if over 20 years old and from EU there is no vat due anyway. Steve |
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Post by billyboy on Mar 29, 2013 22:47:20 GMT 1
I also work with a guy that has spent 5 grand doing an early triumph bonny ,again with no papers ,he's gunna be well chuffed !
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Post by Yogi on Mar 29, 2013 23:12:22 GMT 1
I've got next week off to try an get my rebuilt Swiss 250ypvs mot,d and registered,even more worried as I can't get it running right haven't got a clue how to register it either,steep learning curve for me this week,fingers crossed
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Post by billyboy on Mar 29, 2013 23:21:01 GMT 1
aw gawd ,looks like i might be sitting on a very expensive pile of bits and hundreds of hours down the drain .! iv'e been slowly building a 4l0 hybrid starting with a german frame and no paperwork and there is no chance its going to be finished by the 14th of this month , from what i can understand of the goverment blurb you just need to submit the vat form along with the other relevant paperwork , what else has changed ? From what that notification says it is only for bikes imported after that date so would think as long as you can prove it was already in the country it will be ok. As for duty apparently if over 20 years old and from EU there is no vat due anyway. Steve any ideas on how i do that ? bought the frame from a reputable seller (who visits this site every now and then ) with no receipt . |
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Post by steelerd on Mar 30, 2013 3:21:15 GMT 1
so just a quick one is there a way to register them without insuring and moting them or have you got to go through all that haha |
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Post by moist on Mar 30, 2013 11:34:23 GMT 1
you need to mot and insure to register. I dont think anyone should panic, they will change the rules. But for now just say your bike is a UK one, if its not on the DVLA database, they cannot prove if its imported or UK. If they ask to inspect, no issue as long as the bike is not extensively modified...never tell them it was built from parts!!
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Post by billyboy on Mar 30, 2013 11:38:57 GMT 1
hmmmm . zx6 radial forks , vfr400 rear end , extensively modified i would say , wish i had never gone down this route and stumped up for a uk frame with v5
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Post by moist on Mar 30, 2013 11:42:11 GMT 1
they only inspect a few...shouldnt worry mate
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 30, 2013 11:49:11 GMT 1
From what that notification says it is only for bikes imported after that date so would think as long as you can prove it was already in the country it will be ok. As for duty apparently if over 20 years old and from EU there is no vat due anyway. Steve any ideas on how i do that ? bought the frame from a reputable seller (who visits this site every now and then ) with no receipt . Contact Paul Dawkins on here for a dating certificate. Sure it will have a date on it. As moist says plead ignorance where it came from. A lot of these things are just a declaration which they big up the legalities and threats to panic you. Steve |
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Post by billyboy on Mar 30, 2013 12:41:59 GMT 1
thanks steve already done that and he's been very helpful , its just all the time and effort (and money) thats gone into this ,dont wont to get a Q plate, wouls sooner break it up again
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2013 19:13:56 GMT 1
Finally got my C and E 386 for my DT Stamped 14/4/13 so made it by the skin of my teeth. Came with a letter stating that HMRC was happy with it and that as it was pre 15/4/13 there is no need to use the nova system and it can be registered with DVLA Lucky escape  Steve |
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Post by markhoopy on Apr 30, 2013 22:59:58 GMT 1
I had a German-import 350LC about four years ago that came with loads of paperwork and everything that I needed to register it but it was still a bit of messing about to get it done. I had to get it MOT'd (the MOT station give you a certificate showing the frame number), insure it (again using the frame number), then send the import certificate, German registration document, MOT and insurance certificate off to the DVLA with the filled-out form that I downloaded from their website. Three weeks later the age-related registration document arrived, along with an updated MOT showing the new reg number, plus my insurance certificate back.
The biggest problem was with Swinton, who insured the bike knowing it was imported and would only give me cover for 30 days, then after two weeks started sending me letters threatening to cancel the cover because I hadn't given them the reg number. Even after I phoned them to let them know what was going on the letters still kept coming. My advice would be to take out insurance as late as possible, and not use Swinton!
Anyone still building a bike that isn't ready for the MOT yet will have to follow the new rules unfortunately.
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Post by copper99 on May 1, 2013 20:44:30 GMT 1
I had a German-import 350LC about four years ago that came with loads of paperwork and everything that I needed to register it but it was still a bit of messing about to get it done. I had to get it MOT'd (the MOT station give you a certificate showing the frame number), insure it (again using the frame number), then send the import certificate, German registration document, MOT and insurance certificate off to the DVLA with the filled-out form that I downloaded from their website. Three weeks later the age-related registration document arrived, along with an updated MOT showing the new reg number, plus my insurance certificate back. The biggest problem was with Swinton, who insured the bike knowing it was imported and would only give me cover for 30 days, then after two weeks started sending me letters threatening to cancel the cover because I hadn't given them the reg number. Even after I phoned them to let them know what was going on the letters still kept coming. My advice would be to take out insurance as late as possible, and not use Swinton! Anyone still building a bike that isn't ready for the MOT yet will have to follow the new rules unfortunately. Phew, sounded like an ordeal. Echo your comments on Swintons, I had to take them to the FSA last year after their complete ignorance, daft admin fees and lack of due care around my renewal, that fact id been with them for 10 years didnt count for nowt when I needed them most. Plus side is, I managed to get them to refund 2 years insurance premiums , with some extra on top, always record your phone calls to your insurance companies boys and girls.. |
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Post by ducatidave on May 3, 2013 12:56:08 GMT 1
Doin Swiss bike naw and just so u know no duty if over 30yrs old
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Post by bryan on May 3, 2013 17:21:02 GMT 1
Doin Swiss bike naw and just so u know no duty if over 30yrs old who is it that has said this, the HMRC. What is the process you are having to do to get a stamped VAT form from them, as they seemed to offer no help to Sean sorting it out. |
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Post by ducatidave on May 3, 2013 19:11:35 GMT 1
Bryan a friend is doing it for me
I will ask wen I c him your Q
I will b seein him tues
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