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Post by steve63 on Jan 29, 2024 18:50:17 GMT 1
You have to give them credit where credit is due. They have somehow managed to make every square mm of that bike ugly.
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Post by steve63 on Jan 29, 2024 19:02:19 GMT 1
This above is spot on. Built a Lc/pv/rgv hybrid in mid noughties . Yes it was different, yes it ‘updated’ the suspension etc. however it looked wrong with the rgv swinger, the tyres were too fat, it lost the flickability of the original. Hence I sold it pretty quickly in 2007? Ish (Christ nearly 20 yrs ago). Rgv swingers spoil the looks spoil the handling. I thought the YPVS lost the flickability of the original. I got mine as a race bike and it had big tyres on but it felt like a much bigger bike than an LC. It took a few months and a change of riding 'style' (not that I had any) for me to go as fast on it as I could on the LC.
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Post by JonW on Jan 30, 2024 1:05:32 GMT 1
With the RGV swinger in the LC, the longer swinger is better when you hit the powerband if you have an Athena 421 fitted. 'Less scary, but still lairy'
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Post by steve63 on Jan 31, 2024 14:09:39 GMT 1
Spoked wheels. My first bike, a fizzy had them. Loose spokes, too rusty to tighten them even if I knew how at 16, covered in oil and where they weren't rusty and rusty rims. Too skint to do anything about it at 16. RD200, same as above but 17 years old. Cured by fitting a set of alloys off the later 200. A weekend in the yard with an electric drill, wire wheel and a can of spray paint. Job done. Spoked wheels slung in the bin where they belong. 400 Four, same again but 19/20 ish and the bike had enough power (don't laugh) to be effected by everything being loose. I could hear pinging when I pushed the bike into the shed. Tarted them up and used the bike for work for years. Present day SR125 as above but 59/60 years old. Now armed with a bead blaster and a tiny bit more money but unwilling to spend the massive amount of money required to 'restore' them (similar cost of doing these wheels to doing a set for a Z900 worth 50 times more) I decided to clean, blast and spray the whole lot silver including the spokes. Look OK from 20 foot with a squint Oh and the rims were so rusty on the inside the tyres and tubes were 'welded' to them. It took a fortnight in the citric acid bath to get the rust off and back down to bare metal. A set of alloys, like the LC and they're bang on with a few hours work. Spoked wheels: nasty horrible things. Don't fit them just to be different. Just for balance In their defence, they are lighter than most standard alloys.
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Post by steve63 on Feb 2, 2024 19:41:30 GMT 1
LC's they're quite $hit really.
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Post by geoffers997 on Feb 3, 2024 9:55:45 GMT 1
Derriboots and cheap crappy fibreglass top boxes.
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Post by Gitram on Feb 3, 2024 12:04:15 GMT 1
LC's they're quite $hit really. canny argue about that.. marti
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Post by steve63 on Feb 4, 2024 18:42:08 GMT 1
Derriboots and cheap crappy fibreglass top boxes. Derriboots? Hardly controversial 🙄😊 I guess if they kept your feet warm and dry as were their reasons to exist the fair enough but they made you look like a mong.
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Post by JonW on Feb 5, 2024 0:57:48 GMT 1
LCs need centre stands...
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Post by spooch63 on Feb 5, 2024 21:01:16 GMT 1
Harley Davidsons and the ignorant tw*ts that ride them. Seen far too many of then riding in groups of 20+ thinking they own the road. We were out last year and they actually had two guys at a crossroads holding up the traffic so they could all ride across. Do they panic if thay can't see the guy in front, scared of getting separated or even worse, lost !!
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Post by veg on Feb 5, 2024 21:12:00 GMT 1
f**king Walt’s accountants dressed up as ‘outlaws’.
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Post by spooch63 on Feb 5, 2024 21:34:09 GMT 1
f**king Walt’s accountants dressed up as ‘outlaws’. Not only accountants, I had a mate, a postman that spent 32.5k on one !! FFS ! he seemed a little put out when I declined a ride on it. Haven't seen him in years as all he could talk about was what "his chapter" were upto. Pity, he was a nice bloke up to that point.
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Post by steve63 on Feb 6, 2024 13:55:00 GMT 1
Harley Davidsons and the ignorant tw*ts that ride them. Seen far too many of then riding in groups of 20+ thinking they own the road. We were out last year and they actually had two guys at a crossroads holding up the traffic so they could all ride across. Do they panic if thay can't see the guy in front, scared of getting separated or even worse, lost !! I'm not a Harley fan by any stretch but if I might just play Devils Advocate for a moment.... I went out on the VFR last summer (remember that day?) and bumped into an old mate I hadn't seen for years. He was riding one of the XSR Yams (I think they are) with the LC look a like blue bodywork. I know, I know but this isn't about that. As the sun was getting low he said that they usually end up at a pub about 10 miles away further down the coast and did I fancy joining them. I said yes and we rode there, me, this guy and two of his mates both on Harleys. The other two I'd never met before. One of the others on the more sporty Harley (I believe there is such a thing) was leading and going at a decent pace. We had a pleasant hour outside the pub with a pint and conversation. No complaints from me and hopefully do it again next time the sun pays a fleeting visit to East Yorkshire. Another guy who did some electrical work at my house had a Harley, another very nice guy. I notice some seem to have the need to almost apologise for owning them by saying such as "I've had Japanese sports bikes in the past but now etc, etc......" Obviously you still meet the nicest people on a Honda but some Harley riders are OK. I'm going to switch back now and say what I've said for years. Two types of people like Harleys, those that own them and those that know nothing about motorbikes. I've not personally experienced that kind of riding as mentioned above. Is that in the UK? What do you do if you come up behind them on a twisty road? I can't imagine any way to go by them without upsetting them
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Post by steve63 on Feb 6, 2024 13:59:24 GMT 1
f**king Walt’s accountants dressed up as ‘outlaws’. Disney or White?
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Post by steve63 on Feb 6, 2024 14:00:36 GMT 1
LCs need centre stands... Not enough to pay £300 for one
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Post by veg on Feb 6, 2024 15:25:40 GMT 1
It’s the whole lifestyle thing and the it ain’t shit if it ain’t Harley bollocks. I owned a sportster sport as I needed something more comfortable and I like flat trackers biggest piece of shite I’ve ever owned sold it as soon as I got home. Slow like super dream slow heavy and didn’t handle, then a buell looked amazing but again too slow for me. The lifestyle has to be a choice, the bikes are appalling in comparison to anything in the same sector, and v expensive they aren’t owned/kept for their ability as a machine but as a statement. It’s like dressing up as a kid they pop into their closet and come out like Mr Benn dressed as a wannabe outlaw. They pretend to be ‘ard’ stopping traffic f**k off what part of the traffic act 1986 applies you donkeys, they need f**king head butting. I’ve ridden bikes constantly for nearly 50 years on and off road, grew up with bikes, I’m not defined by my bikes I ride because I love it I’m not projecting my ‘personality’ or lack of. Or am I just jealous that I can’t pretend to be hells granny at the weekend?
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Post by Gitram on Feb 6, 2024 18:06:23 GMT 1
One of my work mates bought a Harley when he retired and liked it so much he bought another... he did have to give up his sports bikes some years ago due to arthritis and probably other health issues to be fair to him..
So a couple of years ago, i was working in England and drove past the Manchester chapter house as they were all arriving and everyone was on a shiny bike with fairings and panniers, clean clothes etc. just didn't look like the hells angels of old.. I didn't stop to find out more.
marti
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Post by spooch63 on Feb 6, 2024 21:12:32 GMT 1
Harley Davidsons and the ignorant tw*ts that ride them. Seen far too many of then riding in groups of 20+ thinking they own the road. We were out last year and they actually had two guys at a crossroads holding up the traffic so they could all ride across. Do they panic if thay can't see the guy in front, scared of getting separated or even worse, lost !! I'm not a Harley fan by any stretch but if I might just play Devils Advocate for a moment.... I went out on the VFR last summer (remember that day?) and bumped into an old mate I hadn't seen for years. He was riding one of the XSR Yams (I think they are) with the LC look a like blue bodywork. I know, I know but this isn't about that. As the sun was getting low he said that they usually end up at a pub about 10 miles away further down the coast and did I fancy joining them. I said yes and we rode there, me, this guy and two of his mates both on Harleys. The other two I'd never met before. One of the others on the more sporty Harley (I believe there is such a thing) was leading and going at a decent pace. We had a pleasant hour outside the pub with a pint and conversation. No complaints from me and hopefully do it again next time the sun pays a fleeting visit to East Yorkshire. Another guy who did some electrical work at my house had a Harley, another very nice guy. I notice some seem to have the need to almost apologise for owning them by saying such as "I've had Japanese sports bikes in the past but now etc, etc......" Obviously you still meet the nicest people on a Honda but some Harley riders are OK. I'm going to switch back now and say what I've said for years. Two types of people like Harleys, those that own them and those that know nothing about motorbikes. I've not personally experienced that kind of riding as mentioned above. Is that in the UK? What do you do if you come up behind them on a twisty road? I can't imagine any way to go by them without upsetting them This experience was while we were out and about Matlock way one Sunday afternoon as you do. Just to confirm how ignorant they are. Last year we were on holiday in Illfarcomb and there was a bike meet on the Sunday so we went for a wander round, not a stroker in sight I might add, rows and rows of Harleys though ! then to the pub over the road for lunch afterwards. The pub was a Whetherspoons (another controversial subject there ! ) so quite big and busy, none of them had any intention of waiting to be served and were quite vocal about wanting their pints and double whisky chasers. Not that I have a problem with that but I wouldn't then get on my bike without a helmet and tear arse through the town centre, this is not an exageration, it really happened, we were gobsmacked to saythe least. I'm sure somewhere out there there is a misguided decent bloke who happened to think they make him look like he's playing a staring role in Easy Rider, apart fron that they're all ignorant tw*ts !!
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Post by spooch63 on Feb 6, 2024 21:48:19 GMT 1
Electric so called motorbikes! No grarbox, no noise, not that I want to wake half the town when I start it, but a nice set of pipes, come on, we all love em even if we don't run them, no range, ergo, no point at all! Imagine tuning it! first of all, plug into your computer, possibly change a resistor or two, maybe a diode or capicitor if you're feeling brave, that's the total of my electrical knowledge and things have moved on somewhat but you get the gist ! So, to summerise, they're shite!!
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Post by steve63 on Feb 7, 2024 13:57:23 GMT 1
It’s the whole lifestyle thing and the it ain’t shit if it ain’t Harley bollocks. I owned a sportster sport as I needed something more comfortable and I like flat trackers biggest piece of shite I’ve ever owned sold it as soon as I got home. Slow like super dream slow heavy and didn’t handle, then a buell looked amazing but again too slow for me. The lifestyle has to be a choice, the bikes are appalling in comparison to anything in the same sector, and v expensive they aren’t owned/kept for their ability as a machine but as a statement. It’s like dressing up as a kid they pop into their closet and come out like Mr Benn dressed as a wannabe outlaw. They pretend to be ‘ard’ stopping traffic f**k off what part of the traffic act 1986 applies you donkeys, they need f**king head butting. I’ve ridden bikes constantly for nearly 50 years on and off road, grew up with bikes, I’m not defined by my bikes I ride because I love it I’m not projecting my ‘personality’ or lack of. Or am I just jealous that I can’t pretend to be hells granny at the weekend? It's never been a thing I've been interested in, the lifestyle thing. I ride bikes for fun, 99% of the time alone 50% of the 99% with the other half on the back. I don't feel the need to gather in a group with people with the same bike or choice of clothing. I'll go to the usual motorcycle riders Cafes and meeting spots and feel compelled to look at any bike that's a bit unusual or different though.
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Post by abar121 on Feb 7, 2024 15:21:47 GMT 1
RC30s. They were pretty shite as standard on the road and hated by most racers back in the day.
That is, unless you could afford and had access to the mag carbs and a billion stages of race kit. Now coveted, but away from Eau Rouge at 2am in the morning, no appeal to me.
My first bike was an RG250 MK1 back in the day. It handled and stopped like nothing else at the time, even if the motor was limp.
I had a ride on a proddie Stan Tuned LC back then and couldn't wait to give it back. It might as well have been rocket powered, given how short the pistons lasted..
I didn't really get LCs until I started to restore and enjoy them as intended.
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Post by Gitram on Feb 7, 2024 20:21:52 GMT 1
250LC's are more fun than 350's...
marti
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Post by steve63 on Feb 7, 2024 21:34:08 GMT 1
250LC's are more fun than 350's... marti Very controversial that one. 250's are actually just exactly the same as a 350 but with something badly wrong with it. If someone fitted your 350 with 250 cylinders without telling you and you jumped on it you'd be on the phone to Muttsnuts begging him to fix your knackered bike for you I had to run mine as a 250 once when I sent my cylinders off for a re-bore. it felt as flat as a fart but it would do about 105 on the clock with a long enough road. The 350's even rev up quicker, normally a smaller bike revs quicker. I put the 350 cylinders back on the minute I arrived home with them. I don't see how in this case less can ever be more. I once rode a Stephens production tuned 250LC and it was actually quite close to a standard 350 in a lot of ways and quite nice. Then rode a production 350, then a 31K
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Post by steve63 on Feb 7, 2024 21:47:49 GMT 1
RC30s. They were pretty shite as standard on the road and hated by most racers back in the day. That is, unless you could afford and had access to the mag carbs and a billion stages of race it. Now coveted, but away from Eau Rouge at 2am in the morning, no appeal to me. My first bike was an RG250 MK1 back in the day. It handled and stopped like nothing else at the time, even if the motor was limp. I had a ride on a proddie Stan Tuned LC back then and couldn't wait to give it back. It might as well have been rocket powered, given how short the pistons lasted.. I didn't really get LCs until I started to restore and enjoy them as intended. Ah, but if you had jumped from a big heavy and long (but not slow) KH500 onto a brand new 350LC like I did you'd be in handling heaven. I saw an RC30 in the camp site at the Donnington GP around about the time they came out. Beautiful looking bike. I think they were about £9,000 then. More than double the price of anything else. Couldn't afford one then or now My first race meeting there was a guy on an RG250 among a sea of 350LC's me included. Mine was road tuned by Stan with a bit extra by me. I was worried that It would leave me even on the straights but it was nowhere near as fast. Then the MKIII came out and my 31K could match it on the straight. Tried to follow one into the Gooseneck and ended up going over the grass before sliding face down on the grass . That was about the end of the YPVS and the start of the RG MKIII/RGV/TZR/KR1 era.
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Post by Tobyjugs on Feb 10, 2024 11:07:13 GMT 1
I've never owned that many bikes, but the worst bike for me was a Yamaha XS850 tripple. I swapped a Honda XL650 for it. I was in Australia at the time and i kept breaking the the Honda cylinder head(s) so swapped it after i repaired it. At that time in Ozz they would repair the roads and just make a dirt track next to the road. These dirt tracks were kilometers long and i could drive just as fast on the dirt track as on the road with the Honda. The XS was another Kettle of fish. On the road it was heavy to turn and felt very lardy compared to the Honda. On those dirt roads it was like "an ice skater on LSD" very scary and you had to slow down. For some reason to this day there was still something i liked about it (not sure what it was). I still like the Gpz 900r i have now joined a forum but have never posted yet. Just liked them ever since i saw one. I think it's that Darth Vader look. Unfortunately i have been seduced to the darkside, my bike is not fast enough and i need to turbocharge it. That's a long way off maybe more dream than reality. I do have a spare turbo charger for the Land Rover I wonder if that will fit?
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Post by steve63 on Feb 10, 2024 17:53:40 GMT 1
I've never owned that many bikes, but the worst bike for me was a Yamaha XS850 tripple. I swapped a Honda XL650 for it. I was in Australia at the time and i kept breaking the the Honda cylinder head(s) so swapped it after i repaired it. At that time in Ozz they would repair the roads and just make a dirt track next to the road. These dirt tracks were kilometers long and i could drive just as fast on the dirt track as on the road with the Honda. The XS was another Kettle of fish. On the road it was heavy to turn and felt very lardy compared to the Honda. On those dirt roads it was like "an ice skater on LSD" very scary and you had to slow down. For some reason to this day there was still something i liked about it (not sure what it was). I still like the Gpz 900r i have now joined a forum but have never posted yet. Just liked them ever since i saw one. I think it's that Darth Vader look. Unfortunately i have been seduced to the darkside, my bike is not fast enough and i need to turbocharge it. That's a long way off maybe more dream than reality. I do have a spare turbo charger for the Land Rover I wonder if that will fit? There was just something about the GPZ900's. They were much better than the GSX1100 and GPZ1100 but then the GSXR moved the game on again. Top Gun never did them any harm either I was thinking about buying only my second brand new bike in 1988. The GPZ900 and the GPX750 were both available new. I ended up with a year old GSXR1100H. Today I was looking at an old passport and noticed the stamp in it from when we entered Corfu in 1990. It had the bikes reg in it E880 RAT. Could never remember it. Last MOT 2017 so could be tucked away somewhere.
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Post by scootjockey on Feb 10, 2024 18:03:04 GMT 1
Derriboots and cheap crappy fibreglass top boxes. Derriboots? Hardly controversial 🙄😊 I guess if they kept your feet warm and dry as were their reasons to exist the fair enough but they made you look like a mong. They only looked good if it was ye mates mam riding to work on her C90. Knowing all to well if you took the piss out of her she would give you a good slap 😂
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Post by veg on Feb 10, 2024 18:22:09 GMT 1
Kawasaki Gpx750 one of the best bikes of its day. I was working at Nck in the 80’s an astonishing bike far better than the other 750’s at the time woefully undersold. Then the zxr750h1 ended up building our demo straight out of the crate, Pdi’d then when out and ran it in, first bike I did 150 on awesome tool, so much so I bought a brand new J1 in 1991. 21 yrs old thought I was a god. (Shame the zzr600 was as quick). I adore the 80’s not only because it was my era (into the 90’s) but we started with A/c twin shock 8 valves with spaghetti frames, stainless discs and ended with Ud forks alloy beam frames etc etc probably the most inventive period of design. And yet I still go back to my Lc.
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Post by billbott on Feb 10, 2024 19:08:56 GMT 1
250LC's are more fun than 350's... marti I prefer riding my 250 to my 350 🤷🏼♂️ Can I also be controversial and say that if I was sensible I should sell everything and just have my fazer 600…
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Post by steve h on Feb 10, 2024 22:08:42 GMT 1
Right....
To all you tonsils who modify/pissaboutwith/ruin ect, one of Mr Yamaha sans greatest motorcycles...the LC. Please please stop!! If you must ruin a motorcycle with modern wheels, new swingarm, modern forks, fatter tyres ect, go and do it to a super dream or some other pile of 5hte....not a LC. They dont need any modifying that would not pass scrutineering back in the day....
(Pro am infills are as attractive as a fart with lumps in)
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