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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 15, 2022 23:32:08 GMT 1
Had one here for yonks and I find it helpful, lets me see how much I'm paying each day...but today was a shocker.
When I went to bed last night (and it was -4c here) it said just over a fiver used for both leccy and gas.
Right now it's 0c and the bloody thing reads £9.42. Anyone else experienced this?
Alex
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Post by JonW on Dec 15, 2022 23:34:38 GMT 1
My folks told me last night its been £15 a day to heat their house. My dad reckons the smart meter is causing them more grief than a big bill.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 15, 2022 23:42:52 GMT 1
I find it isn't the night time temps that really matter but whether it picks up during the day Here's a pic of my display taken just now 😰 Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 15, 2022 23:45:32 GMT 1
And that's me still on a deal way cheaper than the price cap
Steve
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Post by abar121 on Dec 15, 2022 23:46:43 GMT 1
£16 quid so far today and still haven't got the temps above 17C inside!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 15, 2022 23:56:52 GMT 1
I can't complain really given my house temp 😬
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 16, 2022 0:12:07 GMT 1
Blimey. Mine seems cheap by comparison. Still doubled overnight, I'll give 'em a tinkle tomorrow.
Alex
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Post by Norbo on Dec 16, 2022 9:45:26 GMT 1
Dont have the heat on during the night turn it of at about 8pm ish Turned every rad of in the house except the one in the bedroom and computer room during the day as the rest are just a wat of time as im not in them rooms. and yes the house if f**king freezing out side of them rooms worms up a bit during the say with the sun but drops cold at night not thet i car as im worm in the bedroom any way .
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Post by ajh on Dec 16, 2022 10:41:06 GMT 1
i havent got a smart meter but gave octopus meter readings over 2 weeks and my total energy cost for 2 weeks to 7th December (before it got cold) was £390 !!!!
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Post by vectisitch on Dec 16, 2022 11:48:33 GMT 1
We have smart meters. I unplugged the monitor and chucked it in a draw. Jobs a goodun
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Post by chrisg on Dec 16, 2022 12:14:59 GMT 1
Im using the central heating sparingly and set at 19deg and still averaging £15 day ( thats gas and elec), but im not working at the moment.
Dont forget this is worst case, summer will be cheaper.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 16, 2022 12:41:31 GMT 1
My direct debit is set at £241 per month so I'll be fine over the twelve months
With the Gov £66 on top till April and my deal fixed till 2024 I'll hopefully not even go into debit with them this year
I was paying £120 a month last winter but my deal ended so elec went up 50% and gas 100%
Don't know how younger folk with families are managing. I remember back in the late 80's/early 90's with a Mrs and a baby struggling to get to the end of the month
Cashing a cheque for £50 in Asda 2 or 3 days before pay day to buy food
And back then I was in a council flat with leccy heating and that was only £50 a month
Lucky my YPVS was bought and paid for 😅
That along with a part time use of a works van was the only transport I had
Steve
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Post by steve h on Dec 16, 2022 14:59:56 GMT 1
As the smart meter requires electricity to function....switch it off and save some money.
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Post by steve h on Dec 16, 2022 16:28:54 GMT 1
I can't complain really given my house temp 😬 I dont know how you manage in that temperature..... My kitchen is 11 deg C and is just nice. I'm still sitting outside at my local coffee stop.... too dam warm inside, it hits you like a mallet as soon as you go thru the door....
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Post by headcoats on Dec 16, 2022 16:35:26 GMT 1
23.7 is old granny temperatures ! If we get up to around 22 that feels hot but saying that anything under 18 is positively cold !
21.5 ideal 😆🤣
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 16, 2022 16:35:37 GMT 1
I can't complain really given my house temp 😬 I dont know how you manage in that temperature..... My kitchen is 11 deg C and is just nice. I'm still sitting outside at my local coffee stop.... too dam warm inside, it hits you like a mallet as soon as you go thru the door.... I'm used to it now I'm afraid. People do visit and say it's like opening the plane door on holiday when my front door opens 😆 It was worse before my wife went through the menopause, it used to be at 25.5c ☻ Steve
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Post by chrisg on Dec 16, 2022 20:14:25 GMT 1
23.7 is old granny temperatures ! If we get up to around 22 that feels hot but saying that anything under 18 is positively cold ! 21.5 ideal 😆🤣 21.5 luxury, my house is 18 tops. Bah humbug.
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Post by alankelly on Dec 16, 2022 21:22:26 GMT 1
Would never have a smart meter
For me just another way of control and snooping on your usage and especially when you use it and won’t be long before they start cost per unit based on grid demand / time of day
We are very lucky as got 3kw of PV installed years ago when they started up the FIT scheme, and due to having the PV most years the gas stays off from around mid April till about late October as the PV also does all my hot water via an imersun unit during the time the gas is off
Last months energy cost was just under £200 for a four bed with a family of 4 for the month (gas and electricity) and electric and gas bill during the summer was about £40 a month all due to the installed PV, so with a £150 DD since last January been banking it to cover the winter
But admit and appreciate I am one of the lucky ones and constantly remind my sons this when they leave stuff on and I feel for those who cannot afford this almost inhuman cost of living charge
Stay safe all Al
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 16, 2022 21:47:08 GMT 1
23.7 is old granny temperatures ! If we get up to around 22 that feels hot but saying that anything under 18 is positively cold ! 21.5 ideal 😆🤣 21.5 luxury, my house is 18 tops. Bah humbug. Monty python!
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 16, 2022 22:10:36 GMT 1
Most of us on here can most likely remember the days before central heating, just the living room with an open fire, my glass of water used to freeze solid in my bedroom at night, most of the sink outlet pipes would freeze too, sometimes the cold inlet, with strikes like now in the 70s, no coal, lived it all before.
We have all become used to walking round in t-shirts at the dead of winter in our houses, my mum is running around 80F, 24/7 I dread to see her next reading as she is "only" paying £189 a month, that ain't going to be enough, the heating is on in the summer a lot of the time too, she has to have it like that, no choice, the upstairs radiators are off, but she won't let me turn off the rads in rooms she doesn't use downstairs, because of the cat, she is only in 1 room and has an oil rad on all the time in there too, she is lucky as in house paid for, but at 92 on pension I don't know how she is going to pay for it, in this instant the Gov have helped her a lot with the targeted free money, but it ain't going to touch the sides of the bill.
The markets sure have us all over a barrel now don't they!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 16, 2022 22:20:51 GMT 1
The sickner is that wholesale gas has gone back to where it was last spring
Didn't see them dropping the price back
Steve
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 16, 2022 22:27:09 GMT 1
Would never have a smart meter For me just another way of control and snooping on your usage and especially when you use it and won’t be long before they start cost per unit based on grid demand / time of day We are very lucky as got 3kw of PV installed years ago when they started up the FIT scheme, and due to having the PV most years the gas stays off from around mid April till about late October as the PV also does all my hot water via an imersun unit during the time the gas is off Last months energy cost was just under £200 for a four bed with a family of 4 for the month (gas and electricity) and electric and gas bill during the summer was about £40 a month all due to the installed PV, so with a £150 DD since last January been banking it to cover the winter But admit and appreciate I am one of the lucky ones and constantly remind my sons this when they leave stuff on and I feel for those who cannot afford this almost inhuman cost of living charge Stay safe all Al Funny you should say that Al. I did a bit of looking and the gas/leccy robbers now change the price up to 48 times a day. One moment I'm using 31p an hour, then it jumps to 48p then back to 40p and so on. This happens without me turning the heating up and with next to nothing electrical turned on. Alex
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Post by steve h on Dec 16, 2022 23:12:50 GMT 1
Most of us on here can most likely remember the days before central heating, just the living room with an open fire, my glass of water used to freeze solid in my bedroom at night, most of the sink outlet pipes would freeze too, sometimes the cold inlet, with strikes like now in the 70s, no coal, lived it all before. We have all become used to walking round in t-shirts at the dead of winter in our houses, my mum is running around 80F, 24/7 I dread to see her next reading as she is "only" paying £189 a month, that ain't going to be enough, the heating is on in the summer a lot of the time too, she has to have it like that, no choice, the upstairs radiators are off, but she won't let me turn off the rads in rooms she doesn't use downstairs, because of the cat, she is only in 1 room and has an oil rad on all the time in there too, she is lucky as in house paid for, but at 92 on pension I don't know how she is going to pay for it, in this instant the Gov have helped her a lot with the targeted free money, but it ain't going to touch the sides of the bill. The markets sure have us all over a barrel now don't they! Central heating? For us old farts central heating is Readybrek! Happy memories of waking up with the bed sheets covered in ice before a bowl of the above then cycling to school in shorts. Never did us any harm.
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 17, 2022 0:32:49 GMT 1
Most of us on here can most likely remember the days before central heating, just the living room with an open fire, my glass of water used to freeze solid in my bedroom at night, most of the sink outlet pipes would freeze too, sometimes the cold inlet, with strikes like now in the 70s, no coal, lived it all before. We have all become used to walking round in t-shirts at the dead of winter in our houses, my mum is running around 80F, 24/7 I dread to see her next reading as she is "only" paying £189 a month, that ain't going to be enough, the heating is on in the summer a lot of the time too, she has to have it like that, no choice, the upstairs radiators are off, but she won't let me turn off the rads in rooms she doesn't use downstairs, because of the cat, she is only in 1 room and has an oil rad on all the time in there too, she is lucky as in house paid for, but at 92 on pension I don't know how she is going to pay for it, in this instant the Gov have helped her a lot with the targeted free money, but it ain't going to touch the sides of the bill. The markets sure have us all over a barrel now don't they! Central heating? For us old farts central heating is Readybrek! Happy memories of waking up with the bed sheets covered in ice before a bowl of the above then cycling to school in shorts. Never did us any harm. Readybrek! Luxury
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 17, 2022 12:15:17 GMT 1
Readybrek 😀
That's a blast from the past lol
In Chernobyl it's just called porridge but the same glow 🤣
Steve
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 17, 2022 12:22:28 GMT 1
Readybrek 😀 That's a blast from the past lol In Chernobyl it's just called porridge but the same glow 🤣 Steve I will get your coat
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Post by alankelly on Dec 17, 2022 18:20:13 GMT 1
Would never have a smart meter For me just another way of control and snooping on your usage and especially when you use it and won’t be long before they start cost per unit based on grid demand / time of day We are very lucky as got 3kw of PV installed years ago when they started up the FIT scheme, and due to having the PV most years the gas stays off from around mid April till about late October as the PV also does all my hot water via an imersun unit during the time the gas is off Last months energy cost was just under £200 for a four bed with a family of 4 for the month (gas and electricity) and electric and gas bill during the summer was about £40 a month all due to the installed PV, so with a £150 DD since last January been banking it to cover the winter But admit and appreciate I am one of the lucky ones and constantly remind my sons this when they leave stuff on and I feel for those who cannot afford this almost inhuman cost of living charge Stay safe all Al Funny you should say that Al. I did a bit of looking and the gas/leccy robbers now change the price up to 48 times a day. One moment I'm using 31p an hour, then it jumps to 48p then back to 40p and so on. This happens without me turning the heating up and with next to nothing electrical turned on. Alex Hi Alex Yes looks like the robbing b*****ds have started to roll out variable units cost depending on time of day and demand I’m with octopus and they are trying to bribe people by saying if you have a smart meter and used less at peak times then they will pay you (but it’s a pittance and make no real difference to final cost due to the hike in prices) but they fail to mention that having a smart meter can work the other way by allowing the energy companies to charge you more to use it at peak times Cherry on the cake is if you are unable to pay your bill they can instantly turn your smart meter into a prepay meter where you will pay even more per unit and that just wrong and unethical and if you cannot afford to top up your meter disconnects you till you top up Rant over best wishes Al
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Post by Gunny on Dec 17, 2022 18:29:00 GMT 1
I have pay as you go meters, they wanted £400 a meter to change them when I moved in her ten years ago..I`ve consistently refused to take smart meters, so have the old ones where you go to the shop to top up. You get used to it as I only go once a month. On a tip from Martin lewis money saving guy. Before the first price increase in April i put £250 on each meter. They can`t change my rate till i top up again. Still got £30 left in the gas. A smart meter they can change the rate whenever they like
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 17, 2022 22:40:13 GMT 1
Food for thought. So if I unplug my smart ass meter, take out the battery and toss it in the bin they can't charge me what they like as they can't tell what I'm using hour by hour...is that right?
Alex
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Post by stusco on Dec 17, 2022 23:10:36 GMT 1
If you remove the battery the meter will probably fail to safe as in not allow gas to pass through it. If it’s disconnected from your wifi they won’t know what your using so you will get an estimated bill unless you give monthly meter readings
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