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Post by rocketman123 on May 26, 2019 19:28:20 GMT 1
Hi what would be the most desired Lc to own . What is difference between models. Just curious
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Post by Yogi on May 26, 2019 19:32:56 GMT 1
Mint Unrestored matching numbers uk 4Lo with full history and one owner ,then everything else
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Post by copper99 on May 26, 2019 20:11:20 GMT 1
In monetary value Yogi is spot on but generally, if you had one back in the day, the most "desirable" to the heart is the model you owned all those years ago but any of them will brighten your biking experience ,that's a certainty.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 26, 2019 20:11:30 GMT 1
From most to least (£s)
4l0 350
31k lc2 350 ypvs with bikini fairing
4l1 250
31k n1 350 naked
31k f1 350 faired
1ua n2 350 naked (fzr style)
1ua f2 faired (fzr/tzr style)
4ce 350r twin headlight faired
That's monetary and popular rated
To me a 31k is more valued than an lc
250 ypvs never officially imported but various models around varyi g from a 29l 250 lc2 ypvs, a 51l ypvs (like an f1 but different pipes) to a 3hm1 250 which is like an n2 but 17 inch wheels and better brakes
Steve
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Post by steve h on May 26, 2019 20:19:11 GMT 1
Most desired? Simple. One that hasn't been crashed!
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Post by 4l04ever on May 26, 2019 20:43:21 GMT 1
Most desired are my own ones :-)
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Post by earthman on May 26, 2019 20:58:26 GMT 1
if you had one back in the day, the most "desirable" to the heart is the model you owned all those years ago but any of them will brighten your biking experience ,that's a certainty. I totally agree with this, back in the day I owned a 4LO, the only other 'LC' that I would have liked to have moved onto were the twin headlight 350R, for some reason, the other PV's just didn't really grab me.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 26, 2019 21:19:53 GMT 1
Proving the point of desired/best/most popular is the 500
Easily the most expensive but not the most desired
Steve
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Post by donkeychomp on May 26, 2019 22:40:28 GMT 1
Most desired LC is the one you own.
Alex
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Post by veg on May 26, 2019 23:30:36 GMT 1
Anything from pb lc special
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Post by JonW on May 27, 2019 3:21:35 GMT 1
If the OP wants to know the technical differences they should read Xavier's superb website rd350lc.net but for prices and desirability this is a good place to ask as any, the downside is that we dont know where the OP lives and the UK view might not be what he's after... Here in Aus the list would be that after the 500 the 350LC is the most desirable, the 250 LC next, but after that it gets interesting as next is the 350 version of the YPVS, but we had very few sales of each model in 350 form due to the laws/rules here, so its more about condition and what model the buyer wants. Ie we have a very short run of 1WTs here that will one day be worth money, but no one knows about them really as yet. Least desirable are the 250 YPVS (mostly post 87, Ie N and GRP round light F models). Yet not all ypvs 250s are created equal, but with the 51L 250 F1s, few Aussies understand what one of these is so the market mostly still treats it like any other 250, ie cylinders are paperweights, although that has changed the past few years which is probably my 'fault'. Not to self, I should have bought more 51L stuff 5years back and should get my own 1WT before I write stuff like this post and the stuff Ive sent Xavier... Im an idiot In the USA things are different as they have less models, and Canada pricing is different again... And... weve not talked about Hybrids... Theyre only desirable if they offer what you want...
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Post by jon on May 27, 2019 8:59:20 GMT 1
Personally, I think this is a strange question.
Others have hinted on it with comments that the most desirable is their bike.
What does it matter?
The most desirable model is what YOU think it is. Everyone is different.
Personally if I had a mint UK reg 4L0 with matching numbers, I don’t think I’d ever ride it in case anything happened to it. So in reality a bike like that isn’t as desirable to me as one I can use and enjoy.
Jon
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Post by earthman on May 27, 2019 9:09:28 GMT 1
Good point Jon and I take the same view, vehicles were meant to be used so will wear/pick up the odd scratch/mark etc.
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Post by veg on May 27, 2019 9:18:51 GMT 1
In 05 I started to build an as new 4lo bought loads of nos and had an account with Fowler’s through my mate at Drayton Croft motorcycles. I collected everything to build an original olive passivate white n blue with as new pipes etc etc etc started the build and just thought I will never ride this as it will be too good. Sold it all on at profit and built my lc/Ypvs/rgv hybrid.
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Post by tipfinchy on May 27, 2019 9:47:58 GMT 1
for me I think the 4lo I had back in 83/84 would be the most desirable to me (in the same condition as when I passed it on) mart
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Post by headcoats on May 27, 2019 9:58:21 GMT 1
It's a heart and head thing !
Heart says an Hybrid spesh and head all standard UK LC !
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Post by earthman on May 27, 2019 12:53:53 GMT 1
In 05 I started to build an as new 4lo bought loads of nos and had an account with Fowler’s through my mate at Drayton Croft motorcycles. I collected everything to build an original olive passivate white n blue with as new pipes etc etc etc started the build and just thought I will never ride this as it will be too good. Sold it all on at profit and built my lc/Ypvs/rgv hybrid. Funny thing is, if you were lucky enough to buy a brand new one back in the day, I bet the riding/using it wouldn't have been an issue? Why do folk think differently now??
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Post by steve h on May 27, 2019 16:50:07 GMT 1
In 05 I started to build an as new 4lo bought loads of nos and had an account with Fowler’s through my mate at Drayton Croft motorcycles. I collected everything to build an original olive passivate white n blue with as new pipes etc etc etc started the build and just thought I will never ride this as it will be too good. Sold it all on at profit and built my lc/Ypvs/rgv hybrid. Funny thing is, if you were lucky enough to buy a brand new one back in the day, I bet the riding/using it wouldn't have been an issue? Why do folk think differently now?? Because they are now old farts.
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Post by veg on May 27, 2019 16:58:02 GMT 1
It was the thought of putting all that effort in then I would have been more bothered about keeping it clean and keeping the mileage down and that’s why I now just go my own way. However I certainly don’t do the 10’000 miles a year I used to, rarely even commute on the bike these days
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 27, 2019 17:03:31 GMT 1
Think it has a lot to do with the fact that nowadays if you come off it you can't get a mint tank and an exhaust for £100
Steve
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Post by roach3 on May 27, 2019 19:28:41 GMT 1
bought myself an lc2 18 months ago with the view of just getting back on the road after a 30 year break it was in above average condition but my heart ruled my head and i overpaid by a couple of thousend. just needed a light resto i thought that was until i started putting new bits on it. suffice to say and i bet im not the only one but i could buy 2 fully restored ones with what this bike has cost me. do i care? yes and no. but the biggest problem i have now is im not going to be able to ride it like i used too through fear of dropping it (unlikely) blowing it up or even getting it dirty for fecksake
the bottom line is this bike will never be ridden how it should be.
thinking of getting an mt09sp for this
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Post by copper99 on May 27, 2019 20:56:53 GMT 1
Personally, I think this is a strange question. Others have hinted on it with comments that the most desirable is their bike. What does it matter? Jon It matters if your interested in a bike from an investment point of view, not from an ownership point of view, this is an enthusiasts forum so its something that doesnt get asked that much I guess but there are plenty of serious collectors out there whose primary interest is the return on their £.
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Post by copper99 on May 27, 2019 21:15:35 GMT 1
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Post by steve h on May 27, 2019 23:02:32 GMT 1
We have things the wrong way around. Yes, when we were young there was a carefree attitude.. well more of a "don't give a sh1t" attitude and now we worry about binning one and road rash. Well don't!! Ride the beggar and sod the potential damage...because...you may not be here in 12 months time. Most of us are in our 50s ish and I'll bet there are quite a few who have had health warnings and scares. Crap can strike anyone at any time so be bolloxed to scratched pipes and dented tanks, ride it enjoy it, possessions and money mean jack shit when the reaper calls...
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Post by JonW on May 28, 2019 5:14:16 GMT 1
I reckon the most desirable is the one I dont have, Ive seen plenty of bikes on here Id like to own Steve, If i rode now like i did when i was 18, I really wouldnt be here in 12 months time lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 8:41:59 GMT 1
Ride it like you stole it. What's the point in having an LC and riding it like an old f@rt. If all you do is polish it buy an ornament. The most desirable LC is one that goes like stink wheelies off the throttle and puts a massive smile on your face. BTW I'm 60 next year .....
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Post by donkeychomp on May 28, 2019 22:03:27 GMT 1
As Jon says there are many, many superb bikes on here. In fact if it's an LC, any LC it's superb full stop. Whilst I may well drool over some of the creations I wouldn't want to own any of them. Because they wouldn't be 'my' bike. Mine are ones I've built myself and that gives me a huge grin, knowing I've made that and it's mine.
And yes, rev the tits off them, that's what they were designed for!
Alex
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Post by allspeeds on Jun 8, 2019 8:33:01 GMT 1
Ride it like you stole it. What's the point in having an LC and riding it like an old f@rt. If all you do is polish it buy an ornament. The most desirable LC is one that goes like stink wheelies off the throttle and puts a massive smile on your face. BTW I'm 60 next year ..... I go along with that ,I have a 350lc that is mint and also a not so mint but original,respectable 31kLc2,they both have mot tax and insurance ,but I very rarely ride the lc because the 31k is so much nicer to ride ,I take it every time. If I put the pair of them up for sale I am sure the 350lc would sell first and for more cash than the Lc2 because it is more desirable to most ,but to me the 31k is the best Rd ever and there's no way I'd ever part with it and yes I do rag it every chance I get.
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Post by earthman on Jun 8, 2019 8:46:22 GMT 1
Why is the 4LO the most desirable to most in the first place I'm thinking? For me it were the first 'powerful' bike I bought after passing my test on a 125.
Back in the day it were a ground breaking bike I suppose, first hooligan bike, better than the aircooled RD etc etc?...Maybe that's just it??
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Post by veg on Jun 8, 2019 8:56:47 GMT 1
My first big bike after passing my test at 17 (125 learner laws in place) wasn’t an lc it was a Suzuki gs550 katana loud pipe etc it was slow n heavy and a 250 lc ate me for breakfast so I sold it and bought a 250lc. Jesus h what a revelation, it was light it handled was fast and I loved it, that started my love affair with lcs 32yrs ago and I have owned loads over the years even when they weren’t trendy and will always have one.
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