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Post by wallcraft on Dec 1, 2022 22:25:56 GMT 1
So you could just leave them outside under a car port for example to avoid the condensation ?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 1, 2022 23:43:36 GMT 1
So you could just leave them outside under a car port for example to avoid the condensation ? You would think that would work but I left the wifes car in a carport for 6 months of lockdown It still went green and the pads rusted into the calipers 😭 Steve
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 2, 2022 12:15:44 GMT 1
My Suzuki RF900 is kept outside under 2 standard oxford bike covers, 2 covers I hear you say, yes 2, 1 is their cheapest and 1 is mid range, the cheap 1 is to cover the cover to stop sun damage to the mid cost cover, I replace the cheap cover yearly, but have used the mid priced cover for 3 years, done this after an £89 oxford highest priced cover was U S within around 8 months when I 1st got the bike, I have had it nearly 4 years now kept outside, I give it a regular wipe and spray with ACF50, there is very little rust or corrosion anywhere on it, it is used very little, just sits there most of the time under the cover, but bikes in the shed fair far worse, this year my Suzuki GT750 is also kept outside under 2 covers as its too big to put in shed, so far its looking OK, seems to me that outside under covers is better, though winter is here now, and my fingers are crossed as to whether the GT750 fairs OK with all the chrome on it, time will tell, I have bought a good quality pop up gazeebo and the GT750 will go in there with a cover on too, as soon as I "get it up" that is (no giggling at the back) just thought I would share that with you all.
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Post by markrd250lc on Dec 3, 2022 19:09:19 GMT 1
I have a detached brick garage which suffers with condensation, last couple of years i have triple wrapped the LC, i put a cheap cover on the ramp and then put the LC on top i pull the cover up around the bike, then 4 silica bag packs inside the cover, then i fit the soft cover on the bike tucking it into the first one then i fit another cheap one on top, i dont get any corrosion but the alloy does go dull.
This year i and also going to fit a storm guard and small oil tube heater and a dehumidifier with a constant drain.
Mark
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Post by freddie19 on Dec 3, 2022 20:36:36 GMT 1
Dehumidifier is definitely the way to go. I've got a double garage on the end and its basically in a field.😁
Does get a bit damp but not enough to wet the bikes. Now got a new dehumidifier that basically collects 6 litres of water roughly every 5 or 6 days. Amazes me how much it collects!🤔
Got myself a 100 litre water butt and it's almost filled already. Don't like to cover my bikes as I think that would trap any moisture on them, prefer to let the air circulate!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 3, 2022 20:41:17 GMT 1
Bought a humidifier today so going to give it a bash
I'll move it every few days between the garage and the workshop
Need to do my wife's car as well as doesn't get used much so fogs up. Reckon a couple of hours will sort that out
Steve
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Post by Gitram on Dec 3, 2022 21:18:42 GMT 1
I found this on youtube, might be interesting..
marti
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Post by abar121 on Dec 4, 2022 10:42:18 GMT 1
This is good too, he's used dehumidifiers etc for yonks.
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Post by mellow on Dec 4, 2022 12:38:39 GMT 1
well that first guy has tried everything hasn't he I have my dehumidifier now, and it has been running since yesterday afternoon. last night i went to check the tank as i have not fitted the hose yet, and it was about 1/3rd full on a 2ltr tank Like i say my shed has ventilation through the roof where the corrugated roof fixes to the building, and a couple of vents at the bottom of the walls, and a small tube heater just to stop it freezing in there. I think one of the issues is at the end where the bikes are parked the air is not circulating round them as they are quite close together. So i have wired a Pc cooling fan to an old phone charger which i will place down that end low just to circulate the air. it may have some effect I'm off down the shed now to see what it's like in there
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 4, 2022 13:01:09 GMT 1
well that first guy has tried everything hasn't he I have my dehumidifier now, and it has been running since yesterday afternoon. last night i went to check the tank as i have not fitted the hose yet, and it was about 1/3rd full on a 2ltr tank Like i say my shed has ventilation through the roof where the corrugated roof fixes to the building, and a couple of vents at the bottom of the walls, and a small tube heater just to stop it freezing in there. I think one of the issues is at the end where the bikes are parked the air is not circulating round them as they are quite close together. So i have wired a Pc cooling fan to an old phone charger which i will place down that end low just to circulate the air. it may have some effect I'm off down the shed now to see what it's like in there I may be wrong here but here goes I may be being stupid but too much ventilation while using a dehumidifier isn't ideal You want to be taking the moisture out the air in the garage/shed so it stays dry If there is a gale blowing through the air will constantly being replaced by more moist air during wet/damp weather Otherwise you will be trying to dehumidify the planet 🤣 A bit like trying to empty a lake with a spoon Steve
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Post by tony2stroke on Dec 4, 2022 13:12:18 GMT 1
The only sure fire way to stop condensation on your bikes, is a bike vacuum bag, no moisture can get in, so no condensation, or that is the theory, haven't tried 1 myself, anybody on here use them and can share their thoughts on the pros and cons of bike vacuum bag.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 4, 2022 13:35:53 GMT 1
The only sure fire way to stop condensation on your bikes, is a bike vacuum bag, no moisture can get in, so no condensation, or that is the theory, haven't tried 1 myself, anybody on here use them and can share their thoughts on the pros and cons of bike vacuum bag. I have used a vacuum bag and the zip up bubble type Left the bike in a vac bag for 2 years. Came out exactly as it went in. Dust and moisture free Biggest drawbacks are you cannot tinker or check anything while in the bag Also a right pain to get in and out. The other problem this year is I've left it too late so the weather is cold and damp so can't put it in bone dry Used the zip together bubble last year. Very easy to use as you just lay the base section down, par the bike on it, cover the bike with the top section and zip together It is not air tight as it has a zip and there is a vent with a fan in it So big I could store a spare tank and an engine in with the bike I stuck a large silica gel bag in and ran the fan for 24 hours just to vent everything I then switched it off as 1) the fan wasn't that quiet and 2) with the fan on the bag blew up to the size of a cow 😳 I switched it off and folded the top cover up a bit to make it smaller Bike came out fine and never had signs of damp A benefit was that if I needed access to the bike it just unzipped Both have the drawback of you can't easily move the bike if you need the space it is sitting in Steve
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Post by copper99 on Dec 4, 2022 15:58:13 GMT 1
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Post by mellow on Dec 4, 2022 18:09:29 GMT 1
well that first guy has tried everything hasn't he I have my dehumidifier now, and it has been running since yesterday afternoon. last night i went to check the tank as i have not fitted the hose yet, and it was about 1/3rd full on a 2ltr tank Like i say my shed has ventilation through the roof where the corrugated roof fixes to the building, and a couple of vents at the bottom of the walls, and a small tube heater just to stop it freezing in there. I think one of the issues is at the end where the bikes are parked the air is not circulating round them as they are quite close together. So i have wired a Pc cooling fan to an old phone charger which i will place down that end low just to circulate the air. it may have some effect I'm off down the shed now to see what it's like in there I may be wrong here but here goes I may be being stupid but too much ventilation while using a dehumidifier isn't ideal You want to be taking the moisture out the air in the garage/shed so it stays dry If there is a gale blowing through the air will constantly being replaced by more moist air during wet/damp weather Otherwise you will be trying to dehumidify the planet 🤣 A bit like trying to empty a lake with a spoon Steve You are probably right I did think that. But i also thought venitlation was good to, to keep airflow? I think next year i will get a proper EPDM roof put on that does not let in drafts
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Post by 17again on Dec 4, 2022 20:28:01 GMT 1
well that first guy has tried everything hasn't he I have my dehumidifier now, and it has been running since yesterday afternoon. last night i went to check the tank as i have not fitted the hose yet, and it was about 1/3rd full on a 2ltr tank Like i say my shed has ventilation through the roof where the corrugated roof fixes to the building, and a couple of vents at the bottom of the walls, and a small tube heater just to stop it freezing in there. I think one of the issues is at the end where the bikes are parked the air is not circulating round them as they are quite close together. So i have wired a Pc cooling fan to an old phone charger which i will place down that end low just to circulate the air. it may have some effect I'm off down the shed now to see what it's like in there if you are now running a dehumidifier you will need to seal up the vents. the room then will then warm up and dry out. you will still be amazed how much water it will suck up. make sure you have a thermometer in there too, its slow to adjust but you will see how much humidity you have. www.screwfix.com/p/htc-1-thermometer-hygrometer/2806xdepending on how air tight the room is will depend on how long you will need it running for. you may as well switch it off for the moment until you block the vents. use a temperley solution on the vents for the moment.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 8, 2022 12:24:35 GMT 1
I bought the desicant type dehumidifier above and been trying it out
Stuck it in my conservatory for a few hours to try it, got 1/2 litre of water
Then put it in my wife's car which gets damp as not used a lot so windscreen is soaking. Got about 3/4 litre and now a lot better
Put it in my wooden workshop last night which is only 3m x 2m and usually dry and has a background heater. Went out this morning and it had stopped so thought it must have got down to the set humidity - wrong, the 2L water tray was full 😳
Steve
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Post by freddie19 on Dec 8, 2022 18:07:04 GMT 1
That's why I bought one with a 6 litre collection tank, didn't want to keep emptying it.
As I said before though it still fills up in about 5 to 6 days!😁
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 8, 2022 20:59:34 GMT 1
That's why I bought one with a 6 litre collection tank, didn't want to keep emptying it. As I said before though it still fills up in about 5 to 6 days!😁 The 2L is a bit mingy for a dehumidifier that can do 8L a day Thankfully it has a constant drain facility, just not fitted the tube yet Steve
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Post by abar121 on Dec 9, 2022 11:58:03 GMT 1
How many watts does it use when it's running?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 9, 2022 12:17:10 GMT 1
Anywhere between 30w and 300w depending on what it's doing
300w if it's running at high speed or clothes drying I'd guess
Says it will do a whole 5 bed house so I've just been using it on low or medium
After it has got to the set humidity level It shuts down then checks humidity every 30 mins
One thing to note is that although it says it will work down to 1 degree C the unit itself won't run if it too cold and flashes a warning light
While running it seems to keep itself warm enough but when mine shut down as the tank was full when I emptied it it would not restart as too cold
Not really a problem as most condensation occurs when the temp rises again
I intend to just run it a couple of days a week to keep the shed dry
Steve
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Post by freddie19 on Dec 9, 2022 19:24:34 GMT 1
Same as me, I only have mine on when I'm in the garage, probably 2 or 3 times a week!
No point having it on now as there's hardly any condensation as it's so fookin cold outside and inside garage, brrr!🥶😩
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 9, 2022 19:31:22 GMT 1
It's the good thing about frost and ice, sucks all the moisture out the air
Steve
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Post by wallcraft on Dec 9, 2022 21:53:37 GMT 1
Hi Steve, been looking at buying one for my sectional garage, what brand is yours?
Mark.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 9, 2022 22:11:32 GMT 1
Hi Steve, been looking at buying one for my sectional garage, what brand is yours? Mark. Same as the one mentioned at the beginning Bought off eBay as there was an extra 5% off which is finished now Was still a couple of quid dearer than the link in this thread but bought through eBay for a bit more protection www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141807512712I'm sure the other site took PayPal so protected anyway. Think it was £166 or something. I paid £170 but back up at £179.99 now Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 9, 2022 22:15:08 GMT 1
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Post by wallcraft on Dec 9, 2022 22:27:36 GMT 1
Cheers Steve, saw these among the others I looked at and it seemed to be the stand out one.
Thanks 👍
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Post by jools52 on Dec 9, 2022 22:58:20 GMT 1
I’ve had this exact Meaco model for a couple of years and can’t fault it. I keep it on lowest settings and leave it on pretty much all the time. Garage is pretty well sealed and it only cuts in intermittently. Even with current elec costs I don’t really notice this on the smart meter. Keeps humidity just over 60rh . Worth the money bikes stay perfect. Jools
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Post by milan on Dec 16, 2022 21:43:45 GMT 1
The Silica Gel, will work in a large amount. It will absorb the moisture, and then be full. It will have to be dried out to be used again. best if you could get some electric there & put in a de-humidifier, or if budget allows a small mini-split.
As others stated above, if the warm air, hits the cold bike, the water vapor in the air will condense. Next best thing is natural ventilation, where the temperature of all things inside is stabilizing with the outside environment
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Post by rigga on Dec 16, 2022 23:42:42 GMT 1
In my old single garage, I ran the drain pipe from the dehumidifier into one of those big water bottles you see in office's, upside down on a drink dispenser, used to just fill it in the two weeks I was away on holiday.
The double garage I now have is newer and obviously better constructed, and I've sealed up as much gaps as I can with those foam sausage rolls from b and q, and the dehumidifier is piped to run outside , so no need to empty anything, and I only run it on a timer .
Roof has some sort of anti condensation coating on the inside, seems to work ok as it's dry enough, and all the bolts I have lying in the racking are still shiney and rust free.
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Post by headcoats on Dec 18, 2022 22:22:27 GMT 1
Just been in my garage and because of the freaky sudden change in temperature from about minus 2 to plus 9/10 degrees,my bikes are covered in condensation This barely happens but a right game
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