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Post by rigga on Dec 8, 2017 16:55:12 GMT 1
As looey says differing air temps cause havoc, last year had a strange moment when the outside temp was warmer than inside the garage, I didn't twig and had the door open for a bit, holy crap I thought it had been raining inside, everything soaked, bike's, car, plastic flooring ..... mate at work has an immaculate pug 205 gti, and had the same thing happen on the same day, was franticly wiping it all over (the underside is painted white and can eat your dinner off it) my dehumidifier stood no chance, normally its bone dry in there.
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Post by fozzy17 on Dec 9, 2017 0:08:40 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 8:08:09 GMT 1
Thanks Fozzy. I will have a look.
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Post by fozzy17 on Dec 9, 2017 8:42:55 GMT 1
I find it better applied when wet, then just let the bike dry, either wipe it over or leave it if you want it thick, will give your bike a nice shine also, will stay on there for a few washes, use it on all my bikes after using gt85 for donkeys years
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 9:16:42 GMT 1
I have used some silicone spray in the past which was applied to a wet, hosed down bike, little area at a time. But this reads well so will give it a try. I was going to try Simoniz back to black with autosol and autoglym on respective parts. Plenty of choice out there on the market. I like the fact that Rhino Goo provides protection, although I am sure the other products do also. With regards the condensation; there is none and things are dry in there at the moment. Hopefully cracked it!!
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Post by dezcbr on Dec 9, 2017 10:41:57 GMT 1
I highly recommend Scottoiler FS365 which does the same job, I use it on my old sv650 that I ride every day and it does it's job well of stopping corrosion, I use this in conjunction with ACF50 that I wipe on the fasteners with a rag. My other bikes are treated accordingly prior to being parked up for winter in my very damp garage and once again it does it's job well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 12:40:17 GMT 1
ACF50. Do you use that at planes? I plan on giving the bike a really good clean and cover down. Many thanks for the recommendation.
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Post by kostas on Dec 9, 2017 16:39:15 GMT 1
ACF 50 is used in aviation, we spray the internal surfaces of the wings to stop corrosion from forming. There is more to corrosion protection than just wiping the outer surface of your bike with any kind of CPC.
Internal surfaces suffer also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 17:11:09 GMT 1
Never would have thought you had to treat the internal surfaces, but I guess with the air temperature at high altitudes will undoubtedly provide a route to corrosion. I remember having a precious bike valet cleaned once and sure he used ACF50. It did a good job.
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Post by 1966baz on Dec 21, 2018 17:49:04 GMT 1
As looey says differing air temps cause havoc, last year had a strange moment when the outside temp was warmer than inside the garage, I didn't twig and had the door open for a bit, holy crap I thought it had been raining inside, everything soaked, bike's, car, plastic flooring ..... mate at work has an immaculate pug 205 gti, and had the same thing happen on the same day, was franticly wiping it all over (the underside is painted white and can eat your dinner off it) my dehumidifier stood no chance, normally its bone dry in there. On this topic I thought I'd share what I am doing.I've stuck garage door onsulation on the doors and put in low energy green house tube radiators It seems to work well.About time I did it as I insulated the wall cavitys when I built it. The wife says I might as well live out here now.lol.
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Post by LC_BOTT on Dec 21, 2018 20:10:00 GMT 1
That looks quite good, how thick, and what did you use on the door, I was thinking of using Kingspan and glueing it on the door panels.
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Post by tell7437 on Dec 21, 2018 23:04:11 GMT 1
Just done my garage door with foil insulation, got it in aldi ÂŁ9 a roll, got 2 packs & put it on double, just bubble wrap with foil on both sides but I think it has helped
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Post by 1966baz on Dec 22, 2018 9:01:27 GMT 1
That looks quite good, how thick, and what did you use on the door, I was thinking of using Kingspan and glueing it on the door panels. Hi mate, it's Superfoil bought off ebay especially designed for garage doors.It comes with double sided sticky tape and silver tape to go over the joins.Its only about 20mm thick but is apparently as good as 100mm kingspan.You can look up superFOIL .co.uk Cheers.
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Post by rigga on Dec 22, 2018 9:48:47 GMT 1
I too added foil backed insulation to the two doors, quite cheap and if it helps then worth a go, I also have two tube heaters, but they sit under my car during the winter, and on a timer so they work from late afternoon till morning, mainly to try to keep any moisture off the chassis tubes, doubt they'd be enough on their own to regulate the temperature in the whole garage.
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Post by mellow on Nov 27, 2022 12:55:57 GMT 1
Morning all. thought i'd revive this thread as i went down my shed to do some "stuff" to bikes yesterday and when i lifted the cover on the F2 the polished forks had a mist of condensation on them If you remember it is a concrete sectional shed, pvc corrugated roof with special coating to "reduce" condensation, not insulated, a greenhouse tube heater on between 5pm and 7am to hopefully stop it getting frozen in there and loads of ventilation through the ends of the roof and 2 vents in the wall. when i am in there, which isn't often, i do switch on my oil filled rad, then turn it off again when i exit. I have read all this thread, and others, and am wondering if i should get a dehumidifier to stop the condensation? if so which? desiccant or compressor? or turn the tube heater off:| Any advice welcomed
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Post by Robbieben on Nov 27, 2022 13:29:42 GMT 1
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Post by stusco on Nov 27, 2022 14:35:52 GMT 1
Mine is a brick garage I never have any condensation it is joined to the house and has a fridge freezer in there maybe thats the answer
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Post by headcoats on Nov 27, 2022 16:34:08 GMT 1
Our garage is built on the side of the house too and only get condensation if it suddenly goes freaky warm outside following a cold day I think though if you leave all doors shut it doesn't introduce the 2 extremes in temperature so quickly
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Post by abar121 on Nov 28, 2022 11:48:21 GMT 1
Something I've been battling with for a while. I'm using a storage heater this winter with an insulated garage which works well.
Warm air can hold a lot more moisture. The heater also dries the air out to some degree too.
Seems to work well given that I'm still on a two year fixed rate, from last year. But next year it'll be uneconomical. So Vac bags might be the answer.
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Post by 17again on Nov 28, 2022 21:17:30 GMT 1
Morning all. thought i'd revive this thread as i went down my shed to do some "stuff" to bikes yesterday and when i lifted the cover on the F2 the polished forks had a mist of condensation on them If you remember it is a concrete sectional shed, pvc corrugated roof with special coating to "reduce" condensation, not insulated, a greenhouse tube heater on between 5pm and 7am to hopefully stop it getting frozen in there and loads of ventilation through the ends of the roof and 2 vents in the wall. when i am in there, which isn't often, i do switch on my oil filled rad, then turn it off again when i exit. I have read all this thread, and others, and am wondering if i should get a dehumidifier to stop the condensation? if so which? desiccant or compressor? or turn the tube heater off:| Any advice welcomed desiccant for sure as it gives out heat and compressor doesn't work below like 11 degrees or something so its become useless. i have used both. my garage is attached to the house with 25mm kingspan outer wall and garage door and a system boiler. desiccant dehumidifier 40 to 50 on humidity depending if i leave it on all the time or run it when i need too. www.bigonelectricals.co.uk/products/meaco-dd8lj-8l-junior-desiccant-dehumidifier-dd8ljuniormy other garage is detached with brick no power and a pitched roof vented both sides showing a bout 70 to 80 humidify so i have a vag bag on the bikes showing around 50 humidity inside them is use camper buster units in this garage too which collects about a 1 to 2 litres of water a month. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173743875166refils www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115119942062
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Post by mellow on Nov 28, 2022 22:11:35 GMT 1
Cheers for that👍 So are there any things I should look for, ie size auto humidity setting or something❓️🤔 I was going to run a pipe out of a vent if I got a dehumidifier 🤔
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Post by 17again on Nov 28, 2022 22:39:13 GMT 1
Cheers for that👍 So are there any things I should look for, ie size auto humidity setting or something❓️🤔 I was going to run a pipe out of a vent if I got a dehumidifier 🤔 the one above is perfect for the job. has a vent out connection too. has two settings plus laundry mode which you won't need to use.
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Post by geoffb on Nov 28, 2022 22:43:13 GMT 1
My current set up works well in Winter but it isn’t particularly energy efficient now we all need to think about costs more than ever!
I have a detached brick garage with a ÂŁ150 compressor based dehumidifier with built in water tank. To address the freezing issue I have an oil filled radiator on a thermostat that prevents the garage from ever dropping below 5 degrees C.
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Post by tbones on Nov 29, 2022 20:11:09 GMT 1
I’ve just order some👍 Is it as simple as just spraying over the whole bike? Then a good wash off when it gets warmer and my bikes are in use again. i was thinking of not doing the bodywork though. thanks Dan
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Post by abar121 on Nov 30, 2022 14:50:54 GMT 1
WD40 in copious amounts fine well if left alone and not washed / ridden.
I'm going to add some 3kg bags of silica cat litter to the garage. Dirt cheap, why not.
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Post by 4l04ever on Nov 30, 2022 22:40:50 GMT 1
These look interesting if you can use old oil too...
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 30, 2022 22:44:10 GMT 1
WD40 in copious amounts fine well if left alone and not washed / ridden. I'm going to add some 3kg bags of silica cat litter to the garage. Dirt cheap, why not. I use cat litter in my workshop A cheap baking tray in each corner as the air doesn't circulate in them filled with litter Steve
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Post by 4l04ever on Nov 30, 2022 23:14:15 GMT 1
To avoid the condensation, you have to keep the items the same temperature as the surroundings, so either both hot or both cold.
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Post by copper99 on Dec 1, 2022 13:21:36 GMT 1
To avoid the condensation, you have to keep the items the same temperature as the surroundings, so either both hot or both cold. 100%...the common Winter practice of firing up the bike, getting it hot as, then wheeling it back in the garage/shed again is a common one, just introduces condensation into every nook and cranny in the garage and the bike.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 1, 2022 17:21:32 GMT 1
The problem occurs when after a cold and wet or frosty period it warms up
The air temperature rises quicker that the metal work so deposits the moisture on the bike
I used a non air tight zip up bike cover last year and the bike was fine
Think it's down to the air around the bike insulates it from the air out side the cover so the rapid temp change is slowed
Steve
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