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Post by earthman on Nov 18, 2017 10:14:32 GMT 1
How do you guys prepare for a flat? Assuming that you are running tubes, have you already filled them with Slime or other sealant, hoping that that does the job?
If you have a can of 'foam' to put in the tube after the event, where are you carrying it? Underseat storage isn't that big especially if you have the toolkit there.
For years now, my bikes have had tubeless tyres, that repair kit is smaller/easily carried.
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Post by Yogi on Nov 18, 2017 10:17:32 GMT 1
Don't know what others do but I always have a rucksack
with tools waterproofs,puncture kit etc
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Post by earthman on Nov 18, 2017 10:28:01 GMT 1
Don't know what others do but I always have a rucksack with tools waterproofs,puncture kit etc Which type of puncture kit do you have? |
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Post by Yogi on Nov 18, 2017 10:40:55 GMT 1
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Post by 4l04ever on Nov 18, 2017 11:29:40 GMT 1
I just take my breakdown card and a mobile phone :-)
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Post by earthman on Nov 18, 2017 11:31:22 GMT 1
Thanks Matt, now with the YPVS, is there any question about the tyres being tubed or tubeless I wonder?
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Post by earthman on Nov 18, 2017 14:45:40 GMT 1
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Post by copper99 on Nov 21, 2017 22:06:00 GMT 1
You worry too much....just buy one, you'll have more pressing questions then!
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Nov 21, 2017 22:15:16 GMT 1
I just take my breakdown card and a mobile phone :-) plus 1. but its my card and phone! |
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Post by earthman on Nov 22, 2017 8:15:33 GMT 1
You worry too much....just buy one, you'll have more pressing questions then! Yeah, that's just me but what's wrong with trying to prepare for something that's likely to happen at some point? Whether it be a car or bike, dealing with a flat tyre is a pretty basic/common occurrence I'd say. |
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Post by copper99 on Nov 22, 2017 21:28:19 GMT 1
You worry too much....just buy one, you'll have more pressing questions then! Yeah, that's just me but what's wrong with trying to prepare for something that's likely to happen at some point? Whether it be a car or bike, dealing with a flat tyre is a pretty basic/common occurrence I'd say. Well, if you buy a 4L0/1, you have nothing to worry about as no tyre gloop works on tubed tyres, if your the prepared type, you'll always have your breakdown/recovery card with you anyway. I must be lucky as do around 40-50k miles a year in the car and cant remember the last time I had a puncture in a car, last 2 punctures on the bike where in 2012 and prior to that 1987, on balance, ive had more paintwork/fueling/electrical / engine problems than tyre problems! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 21:51:56 GMT 1
Whenever I go out on any of my bikes I have the local bike shop van follow me with a backup bike and mechanic. You don't want a breakdown ruining your 30 mile round trip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by dadd on Nov 22, 2017 22:02:23 GMT 1
I agree with copper99 I don't no of any sludge that works with tubes
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Post by earthman on Nov 22, 2017 22:13:43 GMT 1
I agree with copper99 I don't no of any sludge that works with tubes Well the one in the link I posted states with or without tubes. |
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Post by bare on Nov 23, 2017 5:10:16 GMT 1
Had a flat on a New (ish) BT 45 rear tire on My LC. Rode it home gingerly.. easily though.
The thin rear rim pinches in that tire significantly so the thing stay put on the rim and the tire consequently retains it's shape.
Riding the puncture home ~10 miles, was much like riding it with 10 lbs tire pressure down.
Fitted a tube as Fix (yes It was running tubless) for a 100% repair.
IF inordinately worried about moto riding reliability issues.
Ride the Busses?
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Post by earthman on Nov 23, 2017 8:35:22 GMT 1
Had a flat on a New (ish) BT 45 rear tire on My LC. Rode it home gingerly.. easily though. The thin rear rim pinches in that tire significantly so the thing stay put on the rim and the tire consequently retains it's shape. Riding the puncture home ~10 miles, was much like riding it with 10 lbs tire pressure down. Fitted a tube as Fix (yes It was running tubless) for a 100% repair. IF inordinately worried about moto riding reliability issues. Ride the Busses? Lol at that last bit. Looks like I'm in the minority when it comes to self reliance/getting yourself out of a jam then,....I'm not talking about engine/gearbox failure here, that's what I have breakdown cover for. If you can't be a bit 'handy' with the spanners then why bother carrying the bikes toolkit,...or maybe you don't?? |
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Post by dadd on Nov 23, 2017 14:20:54 GMT 1
I agree with copper99 I don't no of any sludge that works with tubes Well the one in the link I posted states with or without tubes. I can only say what I no, you were asking advice, I do loads of off road and fixing punctures is second nature, I carry tools to fix most issues that arise. if you want to use sludge who am I to say don't,,,,, last year I did ten days off road in morocco on them sort of occasions I go with mosses, not road legal but work a treat, the set I fitted two years ago are now into my second set of tyres so they have lasted over ten thousand miles (road and off road) and still going, never have to carry Tyre changing tools. |
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Post by morgy on Nov 23, 2017 14:37:23 GMT 1
I am talking Off road green laning on my KTM.. Touch wood i've never had a puncture yet heavy duty tubes filled with slime tube sealant..
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Post by arrow on Nov 23, 2017 15:58:13 GMT 1
I only ever carried two new sparkplugs and tool to change them. They never got used, not on the LC anyway.
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Post by steve h on Nov 23, 2017 16:24:25 GMT 1
Whenever I go out on any of my bikes I have the local bike shop van follow me with a backup bike and mechanic. You don't want a breakdown ruining your 30 mile round trip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaahahahahahahahha!!! |
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Post by steve h on Nov 23, 2017 16:32:10 GMT 1
I've always carried an aerosol of that puncture repair under the seat of every tubed bike I've had. Have a "gripster" kit with the CO2 canisters on the tubless modern bike. Carry a micro torch and a small bicycle tyre pump as well. Its a right pita getting caught out with a puncture in the dark and rain on a 70 mile commute...... Aerosol has saved the day......can also be useless.... There are far worse things that can happen to you than a puncture...... Get out on the bike at every opportunity you get  |
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Post by earthman on Nov 24, 2017 10:19:23 GMT 1
I am talking Off road green laning on my KTM.. Touch wood i've never had a puncture yet heavy duty tubes filled with slime tube sealant.. I've used that sealant in mountain bicycles, it's worked well for me so can't really see why it wouldn't do the same on a tubed motorcycle?? My only concern with having that substance constantly sloshing around inside is the possibility of wheel balance, have you noticed any issues on that score? |
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Post by morgy on Nov 24, 2017 10:42:35 GMT 1
I am talking Off road green laning on my KTM.. Touch wood i've never had a puncture yet heavy duty tubes filled with slime tube sealant.. I've used that sealant in mountain bicycles, it's worked well for me so can't really see why it wouldn't do the same on a tubed motorcycle?? My only concern with having that substance constantly sloshing around inside is the possibility of wheel balance, have you noticed any issues on that score? For me only every really using it on Green lanes, so not road speeds i have not noticed any issues... |
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Post by copper99 on Nov 24, 2017 22:00:18 GMT 1
I am talking Off road green laning on my KTM.. Touch wood i've never had a puncture yet heavy duty tubes filled with slime tube sealant.. I've used that sealant in mountain bicycles, it's worked well for me so can't really see why it wouldn't do the same on a tubed motorcycle?? My only concern with having that substance constantly sloshing around inside is the possibility of wheel balance, have you noticed any issues on that score? Tubes dont generally just have a nice neat entry hole, like for example a screw in a tubeless tyre, they deflate far more rapidly than a tubed tyre and the tube tears , the slimes may seal a hole to a certain extent but no way a torn tube. |
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Post by earthman on Nov 24, 2017 22:31:21 GMT 1
I've used that sealant in mountain bicycles, it's worked well for me so can't really see why it wouldn't do the same on a tubed motorcycle?? My only concern with having that substance constantly sloshing around inside is the possibility of wheel balance, have you noticed any issues on that score? Tubes dont generally just have a nice neat entry hole, like for example a screw in a tubeless tyre, they deflate far more rapidly than a tubed tyre and the tube tears , the slimes may seal a hole to a certain extent but no way a torn tube. None of these repair kits are 100% guaranteed to work, I've had the tubeless glue/rubber bung type not seal properly,...and it's no good for a slit or tyre wall tear either. I'd still rather carry something/have half a chance of attempting a 'get home repair' rather than nothing.  |
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Post by earthman on Jan 29, 2018 13:34:11 GMT 1
A little interesting update on this, the other week I got a nail bang in the center of the rear tyre, thankfully I were just around the corner from home so limped back to my garage. I knew that I'd be replacing the inner tube, just had to order one and some tyre levers first so I thought that I'd put one of these can's of sealant to the test,.....this one I bought some 32 years ago, carried it on my moped and maybe another bike that had inner tubes, since then it's been in the loft, moved house, stored in baking hot/freezing cold conditions in a garage etc. I really didn't expect much from it, the protective cap were so brittle, it just fell apart at the lightest touch.  Anyway, the can still had plenty of pressure, I managed to get all the liquid inside the inner tube, jumped straight on the bike and rode it around like the instructions say, got back to my garage and pumped a bit more air in to reach the desired pressure. I really didn't expect to see that tyre stay inflated, I'm amazed that it did, I actually rode around for a week until my ordered items turned up.  |
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Post by paulincayman on Jan 29, 2018 15:09:08 GMT 1
slightly off thread and purely out of curiosity..
would a liquid trapped inside the tire have a balancing effect once under way? or would it make it unbalanced?
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Post by earthman on Jan 29, 2018 15:41:34 GMT 1
slightly off thread and purely out of curiosity.. would a liquid trapped inside the tire have a balancing effect once under way? or would it make it unbalanced? I didn't notice any unbalance during the week I rode around, it was in the rear wheel rather than front though. I am seriously considering filling both wheels with Bikeseal because even if that didn't actually seal a nail/screw hole, it supposedly reduces rapid deflation in the event of a blow out. I have read some owners complain of wheel unbalance after fitting such fluids, yet others say it's fine. I dunno to be honest?? |
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Post by dbgr on Jan 29, 2018 16:02:17 GMT 1
I had the misfortune of a puncture with about 100 miles of a journey left from Cadwell Park on late Sunday pm in the 80s I think, (had just been to see Barry Sheene debut the new AKAI sponsored yams) and a mate took me to a service station where I bought a can of the exact same stuff. Followed instructions and took my time 40-50 mph and got home safely. BUT when it came to taking the tyre off after a week or so the gloop had set hard inside the tyre between the tube and the tyre and glued the tube to the tyre. I ended up getting a new tube and tyre because I couldn't get all the stuff off the inside of the tyre..
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Post by Gitram on Jan 29, 2018 16:03:57 GMT 1
Hi Chaps, never used any sealant gunge inside tyres but i remember reading years ago that you had to ride the bike for a distance to spread it around rather than let it settle in one spot which would cause problems..
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