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Post by hudtm60 on Sept 26, 2017 17:06:19 GMT 1
with the arrival of yet another bike that needs attention I'm realizing I need to upgrade my premises if I'm going to work effectively...and I mean more than just wheeling out the current residents to make some room... I've worked in some real non-powered unheated poorly lit Scottish goatsheds (true) and I know some of us are probably stuck in such places but I might even try and sell some bikes to get the $$$ for a better space...life's too short....and I know people like Arrow, jonw, Rigga, Yogi...must have some amazing places. It doesn't have to be an operating room...but I'm imagining some stainless steel topped workbench with those holey backboards with great tools hanging...with maybe a small flatscreen to broadcast MotoGP...not the old unstable rotten kitchen cabinets I'm currently not enjoying...and this isn't necessarily a chance to show off all your bikes, I'm looking for ideas on how to make a great workshop with limited space (and budget)..and the ever lasting question: is a bike lift really worth it....?  |
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Post by richclare on Sept 26, 2017 17:18:52 GMT 1
Hi there garage guy  I had stuff everywhere until I decided to go 'up'. I found an industrial shelving company as they did a better range of width, depth etc. Good luck with the tidy. Rich   PS. My garage still needs a tidy. |
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Post by veg on Sept 26, 2017 17:29:28 GMT 1
Moved from a double/triple garage when we bought our cottage to a single garage until the extension is done. I have squeezed in all my racking and a bike lift my tool cabinets and work bench plus a hydraulic bike bench. I can’t wait for my bigger garage.
I still manage to have 2 bike projects but it’s tight.
Deffo couldn’t be without the bench
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Sept 26, 2017 17:46:45 GMT 1
Lift bench is the best thing i bought, would be top of my list if i started again.
I'm still trying to arrange my bike but find the conundrum between buying and storing bikes and leaving room to work on a bike and store parts and tools etc a difficult balance.
You always need more bikes and more space...
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Post by stusco on Sept 26, 2017 18:27:49 GMT 1
Hi there garage guy I had stuff everywhere until I decided to go 'up'. I found an industrial shelving company as they did a better range of width, depth etc. Good luck with the tidy. Rich I bought shelves like that bit me in the ass last week I was shuffling my two bikes when I nudged the shelves and a punch fell off and put a dent in my mint cordwell mars bar tank😫 PS. My garage still needs a tidy. |
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Post by richclare on Sept 26, 2017 18:44:18 GMT 1
Hi there garage guy I had stuff everywhere until I decided to go 'up'. I found an industrial shelving company as they did a better range of width, depth etc. Good luck with the tidy. Rich I bought shelves like that bit me in the ass last week I was shuffling my two bikes when I nudged the shelves and a punch fell off and put a dent in my mint cordwell mars bar tank😫 PS. My garage still needs a tidy. Ouch, I feel your pain. Is it repairable? |
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Post by hudtm60 on Sept 26, 2017 18:48:27 GMT 1
I'd wager you would've rather it pierced the back of your hand versus the (most likely long awaited) cordwell paint job....
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Sept 26, 2017 18:52:45 GMT 1
I did something similar with a cordwell paint job once with a tin. grrr. hard expensive lesson that was, mark was surprised to see me again so soon!
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Sept 26, 2017 18:53:02 GMT 1
thats how he gets so much business!
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Post by stusco on Sept 26, 2017 19:03:11 GMT 1
It’s only a small dent ten pence round and very shallow but I’ll need to get it fixed
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Post by jackjabba on Sept 26, 2017 19:28:59 GMT 1
Just find somewhere else to keep your finished bikes, throw out all your old shit you will never use or need, I see a Honda there for starters. Bike lift is no problem , you just park a bike on it.
I am actually going to store one of my cars over winter in a classic car storage centre, just to make some room for the Hybrid build. The Bimota is coming into the house.
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 26, 2017 19:39:43 GMT 1
Space was the issue for me in the garage. It's half a garage - I divided it years ago as I needed an office space, so more than one bike meant you always had to wheel one out to work on the other and I don't like leaving my bikes outside, coz you never know who is walking past eyeing up your bike. So I bought the shed that I did a build thread on recently. But the shed still needed racking. I weighed up buying the industrial racks you see in the bike mags. but found it a lot cheaper to build my own from 3x2 cls timber and 18mm chipboard. The beauty is you can build around things if you need to - it would be totally bespoke to you. It's bloody strong too - I laid on the shelves and I'm 16 stone, and they were solid !! I bought 18mm chipboard sheets and got the timber merchant to cut them down the middle lengthways so no cutting required - just the cls which is easy to cut. You could build around your window so light still comes in, or build around your tool chest so you can tuck it away when not needed. You could space all your shelves to suit the depth of storage boxes too. This is the shed - needs a tidy !!  20170926_183203 by David Miller, on Flickr Dusty  |
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 26, 2017 19:46:10 GMT 1
The other thing is build shelving up high for stuff you don't use often - above doorways is useful. And the biggest difference I made to my garage was getting rid of the "up and over" door, and had an electric roller shutter fitted. Gives you more useable space as you don't need to keep the area clear for the door swinging up. The roller shutters are insulated and double skinned and harder to break into too. Dusty |
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Post by hudtm60 on Sept 26, 2017 20:21:22 GMT 1
those shelves are sweet- electric roller door is another genius idea with such a low ceiling- one thing I've learnt today is that no-one questions the need for a bike lift......An ideal world wd be a workshop with room enough for the bikes and a corner for a home office...would love to be sitting there working amongst the bikes....but I think that means moving house....or doing a Dusty and building something in the back garden.....which isn't completely out of the question.....and the Honda is the girlfriends....we used to have it in the front room...
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 26, 2017 20:42:07 GMT 1
If you've got room for a shed, then why not ? Even if you rack it out for all the non bike stuff, and a bike or 2 that's lower down the list. That way you free up space in the garage. Or get a bigger shed with a divide - one half work area with shelving and bench, other half bike build area. Lots of options Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 26, 2017 20:48:25 GMT 1
My back half of the shed is my bolt hole. Got a chair in there and a radio, and I often sit down there with a cuppa, looking at my bike Dusty |
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Post by richclare on Sept 26, 2017 22:02:06 GMT 1
those shelves are sweet- electric roller door is another genius idea with such a low ceiling- one thing I've learnt today is that no-one questions the need for a bike lift......An ideal world wd be a workshop with room enough for the bikes and a corner for a home office...would love to be sitting there working amongst the bikes....but I think that means moving house....or doing a Dusty and building something in the back garden.....which isn't completely out of the question.....and the Honda is the girlfriends....we used to have it in the front room... Definitely agree with Dusty on the roller door - it was the main regret for my garage. Another thing to change at a later date - add to the list! |
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 26, 2017 22:06:51 GMT 1
Cuts down on draughts too as it seals all the way around. My old door had gaps everywhere and was really draughty in winter. Dusty |
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Post by ritchic on Sept 27, 2017 12:07:03 GMT 1
With you all on garage door. But i went for a 1/3 2/3 insulated door just so i can open 1 door an the whole world dont see what you have. Best thing on gaining space.
What bike lifts do you all use
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Post by reedpete on Sept 27, 2017 13:24:29 GMT 1
My back half of the shed is my bolt hole. Got a chair in there and a radio, and I often sit down there with a cuppa, looking at my bike Dusty +1 for the chair. gets used alot, just pondering bikes and life or increasingly to do those jobs that don't require standing at a bench. These days it's a preference for those jobs that can just as easily be done with task at hand resting in your lap. |
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Post by Gitram on Sept 27, 2017 14:17:31 GMT 1
chairs are good.. rest elbows on knees, hold head in hands and mutter "why did i do that??"
marti
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Post by markhoopy on Sept 27, 2017 15:27:46 GMT 1
I started off with a 350LC plus pushbikes, lawnmower and garden tools in this:  Then built this at the bottom of the back yard:  Having the mower in the new shed meant it tended to get damp in there so an open-fronted mower shed for the ride-on came next:  Sold the ride-on earlier this year, built a door for the open-fronted shed so garden stuff and pushbikes can be locked away safely and the bike shed can be just that If you can I would recommend an apex roof as the storage space up in the rafters for seats, tanks etc is huge ..  And as soon as the shed was connected up to an electricity supply from the house the first thing I did was have a burglar alarm fitted. A four-camera CCTV system was a later addition |
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Post by jackjabba on Sept 27, 2017 16:51:52 GMT 1
Feck me, I have a loft space like the one in Marks but I cant see the roof because of all the shit stored on the rafters.
Painting the walls white and sealing the floor is a must do. "I must get around to doing it"
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Post by markhoopy on Sept 27, 2017 17:58:35 GMT 1
Painting the walls white and sealing the floor is a must do. "I must get around to doing it" Kingspan insulation on the walls and up in the roof, all painted white with a few coats of cheap emulsion. Floor is carpeted now too  |
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Post by richclare on Sept 27, 2017 18:18:08 GMT 1
Ah you guys are just getting all luxury now..... next you'll have a bed in there too! (saves on CCTV cost!)
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Post by hudtm60 on Sept 27, 2017 18:30:34 GMT 1
that's incredible work...lots of beyond me DIY going on there-love the solid workbench.........one of my favorite bike shops store their tanks in the rafters...  |
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Post by wwwRD350LCnet on Sept 27, 2017 18:36:32 GMT 1
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Post by hudtm60 on Sept 27, 2017 18:53:45 GMT 1
You should call it the Tardus....looks small but so much stuff in there- yet doesn't look too cramped. Like the moped- reminds me a bit of my first 'motor driven' bike....a Raleigh Runabout and thanks for great reference of our favourite brand and models. |
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Post by firmstools on Sept 27, 2017 18:58:23 GMT 1
Did you guys need planning permission for your second homes at the end of your gardens?
Thinking of doing something similar myself.
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Post by markhoopy on Sept 27, 2017 19:04:48 GMT 1
Did you guys need planning permission for your second homes at the end of your gardens? Thinking of doing something similar myself. You don't need planning permission as long as you build within certain restrictions that are not very strict at all .. my a***hole neighbours built an outbuilding ten metres by seven in their garden under permitted development rules hence no permission needed. www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200187/your_responsibilities/37/planning_permission/2 |
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