New LC Exhausts - Feedback Please

[muttsnuts]

Guys, would be great if you could provide me with some feedback (good or bad) on some exhausts that have been made for the LC, the options are shiny (first set of pictures), or a dull finish (second set of pictures)

I'll publish power figures/testing results in due course, for now this is just about the look etc

Also any thoughts on pricing etc would be useful e.g. what would you consider paying for a set if they where available (including end cans) - they are made out of stainless steel

Shiny Ones






Dull Ones

[davey]

Dull would be my choise, the down pipes look a little strange with the angle but it could be cause im used to ones that follow the contours of the frame more.
All in all a great looking pipe IMHO.
SS is to me the ideal material for a pipe , price mmnn difficult , how much is a set of gibbsons They look far better quality than them .

[dusty350]

Hi Dave
I think they look awesome
I like them because they don't look too long on the Lc. And the quality looks fantastic.


Dusty

[dusty350]

Pricewise, I would think you are better pricing them against a set of TSA ss pipes as opposed to Gibsons. The work in these pipes mirrors TSA's more closely with the amount of sections involved. Weren't Kenny's around the £600 mark for stainless ?

Dusty

[midlifecrisisrd]

Dull for me, up to the buyer to Polish if they want

I like the front pipe angle and would guess that's what keeps the length look right at the rear

Steve

[rigga]

Shiny for me, although I'm not a great fan of that style of pipe, one question though that might be relevant, will a belly pan still fit with those downpipes?
Price, well to sell shitloads £200 a set, being realistic and making a profit up to the person making them, but 5-600 quid.??

[cb250g5]

If I were after some, I'd go dull & probably BBQ paint them.

Not going to be able to fit a belly pan I guess.

Jim Lomas ones are around the £600 mark in Stainless, + VAT, so I'd imagine that's your target.

[bare]

Apples vs Apple comparison. As in damned near No differences except in the down pipes which seem as oddly angled. (could be the photo angles tho)
Clearly this question is ALL about bling.
SS has Poor /inferior resonance attributes compared to mild steel.
Chambers are SONIC devices... resonance is critical IF performance is the goal.
Just saying :-)

[LC_BOTT]

At this stage, both would get my vote, price wise anywhere near £4-500 would sell bucketloads if that was possible??

[muttsnuts]

Thanks Guys.

Bare, your point is valid, although they are performing well and a few further adjustments should see further increases in power

Keep the feedback coming as it will all help, especially thoughts on pricing as I've said that would be key to a larger or lesser degree

belly Pan, I am offering one up in the next few days, but my initial thoughts are it won't fit

[muttsnuts]

Feb 21, 2017 18:59:02 GMT 1 LC_BOTT said:

At this stage, both would get my vote, price wise anywhere near £4-500 would sell bucketloads if that was possible??

they could very well fall into that bracket, but I've yet to find out for sure

[veg]

Nice pipes dull for me but no belly pan equates different pipes for me. Price really is dependent on performance people normally pay a premium for better performance. Good luck

[russpuss]

I don't like the look of the downpipes. Don't suit the bike.

[iwantalc]

also agree about down pipes need to angle more with the bike apart from that they look a nice pipe ..

[howard]

Front pipes don't follow the curves of the bike and look strange , I know Martin Johnson's pipes do the same but they don't look as angular as these but short is good on the LC and they rise up nice against the footrests .

[allspeeds]

You cant really put a price on them without performance figures ,but I like the look of them

[jon]

Dave I can see they are tyga end cans, but the welds look remarkably like those of tyga made pipes.

I'm also not overly keen on the angle of the downpipes. However I totally understand why it was done to shorten the pipe. I seem to remember race regs not allowing the exhaust to protrude beyond the back of the bike. Because of noise regs also the end cans have to be big enough to quieten them so space is a premium.

Weren't early TZ pipes like this?

I got Gibson's to make me some pipes with tapered downpipes in stainless similar to this , but with more of the classic curve.

Jon

[howard]

Could you make the front pipes cross over to keep them short and it would fill the void at the front too ?

[wallcraft]

Much of a muchness regards finish. Not for my likening as I think they detract from the lovely lines of the LC. Very nicely made though. Kennys were 725 I think, and they are everywhere so price must be ok for some. Does Kenny still make pipes?

[yamark]

Dull finish gets my vote.

Anywhere close to £500 would be fab.

I know that the overall pipe length is important for performance, so I understand the downpipe shape/length, but I also think the shape could be improved for looks.

The proportions, angle, cone taper and length look close to perfect to me - just the downpipe needs a tweek, and just my opinion

I like the crossover suggestion.    

[muttsnuts]

Thanks for the feedback guys keep it coming, all of this will get fed back to the person who made them

Performance wise, while I am not going to reveal the early results, I can say they fall between the Allspeed and TSA performance thus far

I also agree about the crossover pipe design

I'll keep you all posted

[4l04ever]

Nicely made, but I don't like the downpipe design. It looks like the front edge of the front cone needs to go back a few inches, moving the whole exhaust back, but would still not be sticking out the back of the bike.

[steeley]

Very nice . I think a cross over is the ticket yes.

[petehodges]

dull for me aswell dave i dont like the down pipes just doesnt look right

[steveducati]

For me the font of the pipes have to follow the original line much closer, the gap is way too big between the pipes and the engine. Shiny for me and around £500 I would be interested.

[steveducati]

Feb 21, 2017 21:31:31 GMT 1 steveducati said:

For me the font of the pipes have to follow the original line much closer, the gap is way too big between the pipes and the engine. Shiny for me and around £500 I would be interested.

I should also say it's a fantastic initiative, and the comments are in no way negative.  I've got 3 other bikes and they all have aftermarket exhausts on.  For me I want more noise, better looks, and lighter.  I would definitely buy some aftermarket pipes for the Elsie, but I'm not going to spend £700-£800 and don't want a pair of knackered old Microns.  Now a new pair of Microns would be a different matter !

[jon]

Dave if you in the design stages with these, can you use a centre stand?

Jon

[muttsnuts]

Feb 21, 2017 21:36:53 GMT 1 jon said:

Dave if you in the design stages with these, can you use a centre stand?

Jon

tried centre stand and it just catches (shame)

[gci_scot]

Don't like the down pipe angle, do like the dull finish though. No belly pan or side stand would be a problem too.

[muttsnuts]

side stand is fine, just no centre stand