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Post by JonW on Feb 21, 2017 22:48:38 GMT 1
No center stand and those downpipes will be a deal breaker for some, but they are nice quality of that im sure. The JL retros are 400ish arent they, if these were that price Tyga would clear up the market, especially if they fixed the two issues mentioned earlier.
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Post by headcoats on Feb 21, 2017 22:50:50 GMT 1
Don't like the down pipes but look great after that !!!
Maybe do some cross over ones like the Japs like or maybe if you have seen KR1S down pipes where they have a different bend, copy that style
Or give away a free belly pan with every set of pipes you sell !
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Post by jon on Feb 21, 2017 23:15:55 GMT 1
So come on Dave, are they made by tyga?
Jon
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Post by scootjockey on Feb 22, 2017 0:53:39 GMT 1
I like the look of either finish and the length angle of the header wouldn't bother me if I was riding coz I couldn't see them anyway ! If the headers were crossed over could you then allow for the centre stand ? But they would need to fit an F2 as well 😉
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Feb 22, 2017 1:10:16 GMT 1
Dave, looks like some hard work has gone into those, and workmanship looks good, but they not my thing sorry, the down pipes just don't do it for me I'm afraid. Good luck with the project, I'm sure there is a demand for something a bit different, and I'm glad you're pushing the envelopes.
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 22, 2017 8:56:08 GMT 1
With a little bit of "tweaking" Dave, I reckon you could achieve this; Seriously though, I'm sure I've seen US made pipes with similar down pipe designs. The crossover pipes popular in Japan do look really trick; Always exciting when new products for our bikes are getting designed. Good luck with it Dusty
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2017 9:22:24 GMT 1
Thanks for the feedback guys, its really appreciated
Its not me who is making/producing/developing them, I am just testing them and putting them through their paces etc, and getting feedback from you guys is a vital part of that. I am not getting paid or anything (before somebody asks !), this is the result of my exhaust test report a few years back, somebody read it and contacted me to see if I would be interested in doing some testing for them.
The engine being used is the one from the original exhaust test, its just had a rebuild, but the bores etc are identical and have not been touched, so the results can be compared to before.
As regards who's made them, all will be revealed when I know I am ok to say so, watch this space as I'll also release performance figures when I am done
For now, these have been designed to work on a bog standard engine and I've not had to rejet or anything with these pipes and the bike runs really nice just bolting them on, I've yet to do a test ride on the road which is another part of the test of course
Keep the feedback coming, thanks again guys
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 22, 2017 9:28:57 GMT 1
Price wise they need to be viable, think gibbons are getting expensive now.
I know TSA's are 700 but theyou are a premium product with a remarkable performance that makes it easier to swallow
JL retro's are about 550 and stainless so I'd take that as a guideline but obviously the cheaper the better
Think I know the origin of these due to talking to a certain Scottish bloke before Crimbo who was just back from a certain country 😉
Steve
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Post by sbscnor on Feb 22, 2017 9:33:16 GMT 1
Would be happy with either finish as said front pipes would be my problem if they came in around the £500/£550 area you would be onto a winner.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2017 13:11:02 GMT 1
Guys, I've been in touch with the maker and they have taken all of your comments and feedback on board and are reveiwng it all, especially the part about down pipes and belly pan etc.
I will be publishing some details on the testing shortly, just waiting to finish a few bits off and also I'll hopefully be able to provide an indicative price for a set of pipes as well
watch this space
PS - They thank you all for your time to provide feedback and comments, its really appreciated
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:15:34 GMT 1
There's a guy in Perth Aus selling something similar for about $1000 or 500 quid in your language they can come with various types of end cans, carbon, titanium or steel
He pictures them in polished stainless, I know the manufacturer but won't let the cat out of the bag unless you want to deal with the wrath of Dave
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2017 13:27:58 GMT 1
hehe, all will be revealed in due course, probably tomorrow........
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Post by tout on Feb 26, 2017 21:11:13 GMT 1
If they work well and sound good then buyers will step forward, plenty go for kenny's for that same reason. Early Higgspeeds used to get unsavoury remarks because of downpipe shape, and if Martin77 has a similar downpipe then it's for a good reason ! He gets 10/10 from me ! I paid top money years ago for a pair of Gibson/allspeed ypvs the fit was shocking, melted my freshly painted bellypan,touched both the main stand,rear footrest hanger Lhs and cleared the opposite side by 25 mm ? Yet my original extra front cone allspeeds were bang on ! Performance,fit,sound, priorities for me but personal choice would not require a bellypan on an lc Good luck with the development Dave
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Post by philmill on Feb 20, 2018 22:09:56 GMT 1
I like both finishes, I think it is down to the individual, maybe be able to offer both finishes? they buyer can choose. As said before, interested to see if belly pan will fit.
Phil
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Post by mattybeckett on Feb 20, 2018 22:29:21 GMT 1
Dull finish for me, but must agree down pipes look odd. Cross overs would look loads better.
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Post by 0h5h1t on Feb 20, 2018 22:39:49 GMT 1
Dull finish for me too and agree crossovers would improve the headers no end and would probably allow fitment of a belly pan still if so desired.
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Post by dono on Feb 20, 2018 22:41:28 GMT 1
Both finishes look good and will sell however I don’t think the severe down pipe angle will do anything at all for sales.. the crossover solution however would solve the problem and look attractive. Power is really important with pipes however, the looks are super important, as we all know just looking on the forum at the quality of people’s builds it’s super high. Hope that helps however I’m sure you already know . :-) cheers Dono
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Post by JonW on Feb 20, 2018 22:50:35 GMT 1
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Post by dono on Feb 21, 2018 1:32:26 GMT 1
Haha the devil is in the detail eh :-) dogh!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 14:05:44 GMT 1
The link says RD350LC no mention of YPVS fitment which is a shame really
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Post by jon on Feb 21, 2018 19:10:15 GMT 1
Tyga, as I suspected and posted the question a year ago Jon. Strange, Dave never did reply, but I guess he had his reasons. Jon
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Post by philmill on Feb 21, 2018 19:37:51 GMT 1
I never noticed the date, Dave sent me the link to look at... I got a bit confused, happens a lot these days. Phil
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Post by flames on Feb 21, 2018 19:48:28 GMT 1
I am not keen on the downpipe design, I think I prefer the dull pipes......However I think the shiny ones may discolour better over time? I am going with dull vote anyways.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 22, 2018 10:25:05 GMT 1
Tyga, as I suspected and posted the question a year ago Jon. Strange, Dave never did reply, but I guess he had his reasons. Jon Hi Jon, yeah, the pipes are Tyga......... oops, I did forget to reply didn't I, sorry, just got busy as always I suppose and moved onto the next set of testing etc, still, we now have several pipe choices with proven dyno tested gains/improvements, us LC boys have never had it so good (except the mad prices for 2nd hand parts !!)
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