Confused Bike ! - Confirmation of my Suspicions Please

[muttsnuts]

Bought an LC2/31K a while back and only just got round to looking at it, and now that I have I am not sure if the bike is correct, the paperwork etc is all in order as is the MoT etc (until Sept next year), its down as a matching numbers UK bike and the numbers certainly tally etc.

What has me thinking there is something odd is that the frame has a fairing bracket on the head stock and also the steering lock on the side, plus a fairing bracket on each side (see photo below), and I know the UK 31K didn't have them, but I am wondering if the F1 did as I think they where 31k designation as well. The bike was registered on a "C" plate (late 1985), so it could be an F1 that has been made to look like an LC2 or could be have been re-framed, if so, then the numbers stamped on the headstock are bloody good as they look pretty damn correct to me

Anyway, some picture below, thoughts, comments please as I am looking to sell it as I've found a much nicer example that I am keeping .......

[Yogi]

You've got a European F1 there mate

[muttsnuts]

um, that's what I am thinking, but on the V5 its down as new registered in the UK in August 1985 and imported is No !

hence my confusion !

[Yogi]

Do the engine numbers start 31k. O7 ,,if so its a German F1

[muttsnuts]

they do indeed ! 31k-007.....

[muttsnuts]

its truly bizarre though that its down as a UK bike from new - maybe one of the very earliest "grey" imports that hit the UK in the 80's ?

anyway, sounds like its genuine, if a little confused as to what it thinks it is !!

Its going up for sale anyway, but I wanted to be sure it was all above board and I couldn't make my mind up !

Thanks for that

[Yogi]

Just for future reference mate,click on model,then vin number
www.rd350lc.net/index.htm

[muttsnuts]

yeah I looked on there, but couldn't see it, but then wasn't looking at German models if I am honest !

[Yogi]

I'm sure you already knew that Dave, not trying to teach you how to suck eggs

[muttsnuts]

cool, found it now, 31k-077xxx - German F1 - 59bhp model - cheers for that, must have been a grey import given the V5 details

[muttsnuts]

no not at all Yogi, I looked but couldn't find it, old age I reckon or stupidity on my part !!

[muttsnuts]

looks like I'll lose money on it, but hey-ho, its gotta go and I like to be honest about things I am selling and I didn't want to advertise it as an LC2/31k when I wasn't sure myself - bloody looks like one mind !

[Yogi]

f1s are the rarest Dave only made for 8 months so who knows

[Yogi]

If it's got a belly pan on then the bottom frame brackets have been moved?,,,there different on an Lc2,, GLWTS

[Yogi]

Dave I've had another look and you've actually got a European N1 model so happy days mate as long as the vin is 31k 0771......

[midlifecrisisrd]

31k 0077 onward is n1

If v5 states it is UK model then that is correct

All UK n1 and f1 models had the steering lock on the side of the headstock

Mine is a late UK n1 ( 1986 D reg 31k 0078) and indeed has the brackets and the steering lock separate

Steve

[yamark]

Not sure if this is relevant, but my 07 R1 was UK first registered but is a USA model.

I contacted Yamaha who said if the model is selling well but stocks are very low, it's not unheard to ship "other counties" bikes.

Might be the reason    

[midlifecrisisrd]

Oh and it has n1/f1 forks

What clocks does it have on it?

Also check the cdi to see what code it has to work out what's n1 and what's not

The more n1 it is the better

Steve

[muttsnuts]

its got kidney clocks on it, the vin is 31k-077323. has the belly pan, bikini fairing etc, I'll check what the CDI has on it

so it sounds like its a UK N1 then?

[muttsnuts]

will need to check the forks etc, not sure how the hell I will tell though, I am an LC and RD A/C bod, not a YPVS expert !

[Yogi]

Definitely N1 then

[midlifecrisisrd]

Nov 24, 2015 18:49:52 GMT 1 muttsnuts said:

its got kidney clocks on it, the vin is 31k-077323. has the belly pan, bikini fairing etc, I'll check what the CDI has on it

so it sounds like its a UK N1 then?

Looks like it mate

Someone has went to a lot of trouble converting that then as they will have had to split the motor to fit the mechanical tacho drive.

Steve

[muttsnuts]

looks like N1/F1 forks and calipers as well, got brand new disks on it so has some plus points, I'll get some piccies up of it, also will check the electronics on it to see what it has fitted, its KR colours as well

[Yogi]

Get some pics up mate and we will let ya know what's what,maybe rebuilt from an lc2 donor bike

[midlifecrisisrd]

Nov 24, 2015 18:58:46 GMT 1 Yogi said:

Get some pics up mate and we will let ya know what's what,maybe rebuilt from an lc2 donor bike

That's my worry

Frame/cases/forks may be the only n1

[muttsnuts]

aye, will do, so my title is right, its a confused bike !

[chrisk]

Hi dave. Any chance of some more pictures. ..Girlfriend has a thing about yellow bikes. Ta chris

[muttsnuts]

yeah, will get some photo's up later, need to fit its exhausts back on first as they where blowing a tad

[muttsnuts]

Nov 24, 2015 19:00:32 GMT 1 midlifecrisisrd said:

Nov 24, 2015 18:58:46 GMT 1 Yogi said:

Get some pics up mate and we will let ya know what's what,maybe rebuilt from an lc2 donor bike

That's my worry

Frame/cases/forks may be the only n1

well guys it gets more curious, the tacho is electronic, no cable, but the clocks are kidney ones and look identical to 31k ones, so exactly how that has been done I am not sure, the CDI is a 52Y-50 unit, so not sure if that's an N1 or not

Still looking at other bits and bobs, had it running briefly, sounds like it needs a rebore as little rattly top end wise, got a nice set of microns on it though !

I'll dig the camera out tomorrow and take some pictures, not sure what else I need to check but suspect the swinging arm, rear brake caliper etc will be different as well if its a N1 ?

Any pointers would be helpful, is the tank different as well ?

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52Y-50 Cdi unit is N1/F1