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Post by yamfan on Mar 30, 2016 0:50:29 GMT 1
Rossi is an amazing rider as are all the guys who've made it to the top level of motorcycle racing. The issue is when he is hailed as the master and best at development, best at adapting, best at tyre management etc etc etc.
We saw last year a man so desperate to win that 10th title that he seems to see as his right, that he invented a reason to try and manipulate the press and dorna to control Marquez's actions as he obviously thought he could force him to take on Lorenzo when Rossi himself was at times unable to, thus hoping Marquez could take points from Lorenzo and hand him the righteous 10th title he so covets.
Indeed Rossi has manipulated the press and his fans to give his rivals a hard time. These carefully planned mind games have been a feature of his racing for many years and are most distasteful in a sport that is usually gentlemanly.
Last year when his accusations backfired on him and Marquez went out clearly fired up and determined to beat him in Sepang, Rossi went a step too far when he ran Marquez out towards the AstroTurf.
For me his behaviour was nasty and petulant to say the least and for many it spoiled the image of a MotoGP figurehead who has all the ability in the world. His actions were that of a desperate man, willing to cheat and do absolutely anything to get his way.
For me this was the moment he ruined his entire reputation, unfortunately there are many fans out there not willing to see any wrongdoing in the man, he takes full advantage of this and will continue to do this until he hurts someone or himself or his maniacal fans do.
Dorna should stop him before he does and get him to calm his fans down somewhat. I know he's their cash cow and brings money to the sport, what cost do they put on life?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 2:53:56 GMT 1
+1 yamfan
You weren't at Sepang were you?
I was and saw the whole thing
That said I've got to chip you on Argentina, its only the second time the GP boys have been there, at least in a while
The circuit is newer to them than the likes of Jerez, Catalunya, Assen, Silverstone, Spa and the like, that's what I was meaning if you get my drift
They have a lot of knowledge of the European circuits as most of them have raced on those tracks on 125's and 250's etc
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Post by davecroucher57v on Mar 30, 2016 22:40:20 GMT 1
age is a b*****d lads .rossi has given great entertainment over the years.but young men are hear now.
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Post by yamfan on Mar 30, 2016 23:52:35 GMT 1
+1 yamfan You weren't at Sepang were you? I was and saw the whole thing That said I've got to chip you on Argentina, its only the second time the GP boys have been there, at least in a while The circuit is newer to them than the likes of Jerez, Catalunya, Assen, Silverstone, Spa and the like, that's what I was meaning if you get my drift They have a lot of knowledge of the European circuits as most of them have raced on those tracks on 125's and 250's etc No I wasn't at Sepang but saw it all live on bt sports. Regarding Argentina, Lorenzo doesn't like the track too much so don't expect too much of him, however if he does a repeat of Losail then it could be signs he's going to be dominant at most tracks. The European tracks do mostly suit him, particularly the Spanish tracks, Brno, Spa, Mugello and even Assen if it's dry. The newer riders may indeed know the tracks from 125, 250, moto2 and moto3 days, but it's a whole different ball game wrestling the MotoGP bikes around them. Whilst I see the Ducati boys doing well in Argentina and Mugello, I can't really see them challenging the aliens around the other tracks although I'd like to see it. It would be cool to have a gaggle of bikes vying for podiums and would prove more difficult for Rossi to employ his mind games and bullying against a crowd of riders. It's much easier for him to use his vendetta tactics against one or two riders. Ultimately I hope to see good clean but hard racing and none of the unpleasantness that marred last years championship, with Valentino's fans behaving less than drunken football fans and showing at least grudging respect for his rivals instead of their disgusting abuse like in Losail. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 2:34:46 GMT 1
spot on yamman
What we want is good sensible close racing with a variety of bikes up the front
As you rightly say I doubt many will catch the aliens however at least we will have something a lot more interesting
Never really liked Lorenzo at the start of his Moto GP career, then after he was injured and he joined the commentary for a race I had a totally different opinion of him, he was brilliant, vibrant and a great sense of humour
Scott Redding was another too who was injured with his shoulder if I remember correctly, he was 19 at the time and his intuition and description of the race he was commentating on was beyond his years, an old head on young shoulders
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 2, 2016 19:31:18 GMT 1
Looks like the Doctor got some WD-40 on the old zimmer frame for tomorrow .
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Post by rsvr1000 on Apr 2, 2016 21:35:11 GMT 1
Turn One is a bit dodgy , forecast is rain for tomorrow should be interesting, not good news on tyres thou
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 2, 2016 21:47:13 GMT 1
Looked like the track was very dusty . I wonder if there's a small change in elevation making the suspension go light into turn one ? I'll be watching closely tomorrow .
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 3, 2016 7:38:17 GMT 1
age is a b*****d lads .rossi has given great entertainment over the years.but young men are hear now. I wouldn't write off Rossi just yet Dave . |
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Post by rigga on Apr 3, 2016 11:01:41 GMT 1
Reddings rear Tyre exploded so all the tyres Michelin took have been withdrawn for a special hard tyre they shipped over just in case. So everyone racing on a rear tyre no one has tried, and traditionally Lorenzo hates, could be an interesting race. Marks showing on his body from the failed tyre  |
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 3, 2016 11:57:56 GMT 1
Jesus , the kid got a right wallop ! F'n destroyed the back end o' the bike .
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 3, 2016 17:50:06 GMT 1
One to watch for the future , young Malaysian Pawi . Don't want to give any spoilers but if you can , watch today's Moto 3 race !!
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 3, 2016 21:10:04 GMT 1
Good race today but tough going , pity about the mandatory pitstop . that decision should be left to the riders . Well done Eugene Laverty finishing in fourth . Can't wait for the next one .
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Post by rigga on Apr 3, 2016 21:50:43 GMT 1
Safety first, Michelin couldn't be certain that reddings tyre failure was a one off or not, so had to do the bike change, pity as it was a different race after that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 14:47:55 GMT 1
well Rossi managed 2nd, after the crazy one took out himself and his teammate
What a debut by Pawi, and you have to feel for Nor, white line fever got the better of him
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Post by mellow on Apr 4, 2016 15:24:39 GMT 1
Gifted was rossi. Still don't understand if he so great and can ride round problems why wasn't he out in front of marquez? ??
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 14:42:39 GMT 1
age is a b*****d lads .rossi has given great entertainment over the years.but young men are hear now. Didn't really see the young lads today Dave , I don't think The Doc will be signing up for his bus pass just yet lol!! Laverty ran a good race . |
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Post by davecroucher57v on Apr 24, 2016 18:59:10 GMT 1
didn;t he do well.
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Post by rsvr1000 on Apr 24, 2016 19:41:26 GMT 1
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Post by Slabsideian on Apr 24, 2016 20:20:51 GMT 1
Yeeeeaaahhhhhh bwwwooooyyyyyy. Don't stand a chance eh?  looking forward to Le Mans and see what whinging Lorenzo has got. |
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 20:21:02 GMT 1
I thought it was great , pity Marquez and Lorenzo wont even look at Rossi , never mind shake hands . |
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 20:23:32 GMT 1
Yeeeeaaahhhhhh bwwwooooyyyyyy. Don't stand a chance eh? looking forward to Le Mans and see what whinging Lorenzo has got. Funny that , I didn't notice Lorenzo making his "Zip It" gesture today . I wonder why ?? |
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Post by Slabsideian on Apr 24, 2016 20:25:00 GMT 1
Errmmm cos he's a tosser lol
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Post by rsvr1000 on Apr 24, 2016 20:32:08 GMT 1
I see just because Monkey Boy has won all the key board heroes have come out to play, Every body else all went to check the back tyres but not Rossi ? Real strange that ! May be the power of VR46 has found its way to michlen to make a special tyre for him ?
Answers on a post card guys
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 20:40:53 GMT 1
I see just because Monkey Boy has won all the key board heroes have come out to play, Every body else all went to check the back tyres but not Rossi ? Real strange that ! May be the power of VR46 has found its way to michlen to make a special tyre for him ? Answers on a post card guys I'd imagine some of the riders are missing the rider aids which soften the power delivery , whereas others would have better throttle control and not shag the tyres so quickly . |
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Post by Slabsideian on Apr 24, 2016 20:52:37 GMT 1
maybe he didn't need to check them??
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 21:14:13 GMT 1
Errmmm cos he's a tosser lol Poor Jorge didn't look too well today , he actually looked sick as a parrot after the race . |
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Post by davecroucher57v on Apr 24, 2016 21:41:53 GMT 1
did you see his tyre.melted it.
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Post by KevtheRev on Apr 24, 2016 22:11:57 GMT 1
did you see his tyre.melted it. Yep , it looked like a well chewed liquorice allsort . |
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Post by plumma on Apr 25, 2016 11:44:11 GMT 1
Mighty Mic, the man had to be carried to his bike and custom levers on the bars for brakes and gears as his legs were knackered and rode a two stroke, not a predictable 4 stroke and murdered them. The man is a LEGEND.
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looking forward to Le Mans and see what whinging Lorenzo has got.