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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 24, 2016 7:51:20 GMT 1
I can see this starting something on here again and it ain't going to be pretty Haha! All in good fun . I love Moto GP almost as much as proper Road Racing . No team tactics on the road and ALL the riders have great respect for each other and for the dangers they face . VR46-FTW !!
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Post by Slabsideian on Mar 24, 2016 21:22:55 GMT 1
Yeah kevthrerev, that's it. Rossi came 4th at the weekend but wasn't far behind. Doesn't stand a chance eh????hhhhmmmmm we shall see. And yeah VR46 FTW!!
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Post by marsbar350 on Mar 25, 2016 0:58:16 GMT 1
even crash crutchlow could come 4th on rossi's bike
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 5:37:21 GMT 1
even crash crutchlow could come 4th on rossi's bike Maybe , I hope Cal has a good season . Maybe if he got a Super Mario moustache for his bike like Lorenzo's .
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 8:40:39 GMT 1
Yeah kevthrerev, that's it. Rossi came 4th at the weekend but wasn't far behind. Doesn't stand a chance eh????hhhhmmmmm we shall see. And yeah VR46 FTW!! Man , I'd love that for a reg number - VR46 FTW ,
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 8:47:10 GMT 1
here we go again how mant titles has Lorenzo won he is catching rossi isn't he In his dreams ! ! lol .
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 12:52:48 GMT 1
Yeah kevthrerev, that's it. Rossi came 4th at the weekend but wasn't far behind. Doesn't stand a chance eh????hhhhmmmmm we shall see. And yeah VR46 FTW!! Was Rossi running interference to Marquez last week then, because he followed him around without showing him a wheel too, and Marquez ran wide several times whereas in Valencia Lorenzo never ran off line even once whilst in striking distance of Marquez. Is that proof that Rossi is cheating us out of a championship battle? Shame on him. Get over yourself buddy, Rossi has made a career out of falling out with his competitors and using underhand tricks and mind games to get his way. He tried to ram a championship leading Lorenzo off the track in 2010 and when admonished by Yamaha he said "if I can't race then I'll stay at home". In 2015 he says championship contenders shouldn't be interfered with, double standards or what? Rossi will cheat and do anything to get his title and is aided and abetted by his blinkered fans who will see no wrong in his actions. As RSV has said, he's tarnished the sport with his actions and his blatant encouragement of his football fanlike army of supporters.
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Post by rsvr1000 on Mar 25, 2016 13:42:57 GMT 1
Yeah kevthrerev, that's it. Rossi came 4th at the weekend but wasn't far behind. Doesn't stand a chance eh????hhhhmmmmm we shall see. And yeah VR46 FTW!! Was Rossi running interference to Marquez last week then, because he followed him around without showing him a wheel too, and Marquez ran wide several times whereas in Valencia Lorenzo never ran off line even once whilst in striking distance of Marquez. Is that proof that Rossi is cheating us out of a championship battle? Shame on him. Get over yourself buddy, Rossi has made a career out of falling out with his competitors and using underhand tricks and mind games to get his way. He tried to ram a championship leading Lorenzo off the track in 2010 and when admonished by Yamaha he said "if I can't race then I'll stay at home". In 2015 he says championship contenders shouldn't be interfered with, double standards or what? Rossi will cheat and do anything to get his title and is aided and abetted by his blinkered fans who will see no wrong in his actions. As RSV has said, he's tarnished the sport with his actions and his blatant encouragement of his football fanlike army of supporters. Hooray , some body else who agrees with Monkey Boys tactics lol as before he has talent it's just the fact he and yellow clad followers believe he can do what he can do what he wants to both on and off the track. The new young guns are wise to this now and to have Mamola say his peace backs my thoughts. 2016 will be good , I hope for right reasons and not for Monkey throw his dummy out of the cot again. The Ducati's look good just hope Suzuki can live up to pre season testing
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 15:18:33 GMT 1
Was Rossi running interference to Marquez last week then, because he followed him around without showing him a wheel too, and Marquez ran wide several times whereas in Valencia Lorenzo never ran off line even once whilst in striking distance of Marquez. Is that proof that Rossi is cheating us out of a championship battle? Shame on him. Get over yourself buddy, Rossi has made a career out of falling out with his competitors and using underhand tricks and mind games to get his way. He tried to ram a championship leading Lorenzo off the track in 2010 and when admonished by Yamaha he said "if I can't race then I'll stay at home". In 2015 he says championship contenders shouldn't be interfered with, double standards or what? Rossi will cheat and do anything to get his title and is aided and abetted by his blinkered fans who will see no wrong in his actions. As RSV has said, he's tarnished the sport with his actions and his blatant encouragement of his football fanlike army of supporters. Hooray , some body else who agrees with Monkey Boys tactics lol as before he has talent it's just the fact he and yellow clad followers believe he can do what he can do what he wants to both on and off the track. The new young guns are wise to this now and to have Mamola say his peace backs my thoughts. 2016 will be good , I hope for right reasons and not for Monkey throw his dummy out of the cot again. The Ducati's look good just hope Suzuki can live up to pre season testing There's a MotoGP forum on tapatalk with quite a few like minded souls if you like to chat MotoGP matey. Mostly Americans and Canadians but there is a number of Aussies and Brits too. I note Rossi is trying to goad Lorenzo into leaving Yamaha for Ducati, so he can have all his own way and choose a weaker team mate (I say the word mate in jest as he'll bully and alienate anyone who threatens him on track). I hope Lorenzo stays and beats him into retirement before considering leaving as he's been more loyal to Yamaha than Rossi has anyway. All the rubbish about Marquez being dangerous pales into significance when we see how many times Rossi has barged riders too. The claim he made that he loves good hard racing is only when he comes out on top too. He also invented his mantra that if he's overtaken the way to respond is bite back immediately. Both the hard racing and biting back immediately are things that Marquez learned from Rossi, he applied them to his racing against his once hero and suddenly he's a villain and conspirator and is vilified and hated by the same fans who loved Marquez when he did it to Lorenzo in 2013/14. As for Rossi's fans, they booed EVERY Spanish rider on the grid at Qatar as their names were read out as they formed for the race! Scum or what? Rossi could stop this pretty much instantly like he stopped them abusing Iannone for beating him at Philip Island, by just telling them to stop. He won't as he's vindictive and enjoys it as he obviously thinks it gives him an edge. No wonder Casey Stoner retired after putting up with him, the abuse Stoner and his wife got was disgusting, I hope he wildcards in Australia and absolutely hammers Rossi. Oops, have I said too much? ??
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 18:35:03 GMT 1
Wow , people do get very touchy about this don't they . That said , there is no place in motorcycle sport for the Boo-boys or for abuse .
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Post by rsvr1000 on Mar 25, 2016 19:16:09 GMT 1
Wow , people do get very touchy about this don't they . That said , there is no place in motorcycle sport for the Boo-boys or for abuse . Just banter mate lol,
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 20:40:15 GMT 1
Wow , people do get very touchy about this don't they . That said , there is no place in motorcycle sport for the Boo-boys or for abuse . Bit of fun mate, I'd never let that stuff get in the way of Elsie camaraderie.
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 21:38:09 GMT 1
They should still all be on 500 two strokes with no electronic rider aids anyway . Then we'd see who the real riders are .
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 22:05:40 GMT 1
They should still all be on 500 two strokes with no electronic rider aids anyway . Then we'd see who the real riders are . You're right there buddy, they'd be lucky to still be riding at thirty, I think we'd have a totally different grid. It was a shocking decision to ditch the 250s let alone the 500s. To be honest even the 500s were getting tame towards the end, the NSR was a pussycat according to Doohan, hence him going back to the screamer to show his rivals how dominant he was. The 80s were the best gp days imo
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 22:14:21 GMT 1
I remember watching Schwantz , Doohan and co on Eurosport and working my balls off driving a CG to save up for a Powervalve . I'm still driving a CG and scrimping to get my LC built , LOL.
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Post by Slabsideian on Mar 25, 2016 22:44:04 GMT 1
Hhmmmmmm I wonder how Lorenzo and Marquez would handle a 500??? Lol
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 23:33:42 GMT 1
To be fair Lorenzo was a demon on the Aprilia 250 and 250cc world champion just like Rossi, he also has amazing throttle control and is super smooth, so I suspect he would be a contender. As for Marquez I'm not sure, although he's got the knack of riding anything fast. I suspect he might've been on the end of some pretty vicious highsides ? Come the mid 90s tyres and Big Bang engines had tamed the 500s right down from the bucking broncos of the earlier times. It would be good to see our latest guys on the older stuff. I remember talking to Jezza McWilliams at Donington after his 500 privateer V4 threw him off at Coppice. He came to talk to us in the crowd as one of the lads had an Irish flag waving. We gave him a beer and he said he barely touched the throttle and it just launched him with no warning at all and it was one scary machine ?
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Post by yamfan on Mar 25, 2016 23:42:01 GMT 1
I remember watching Schwantz , Doohan and co on Eurosport and working my balls off driving a CG to save up for a Powervalve . I'm still driving a CG and scrimping to get my LC built , LOL. I sold beautiful LCs, both Beckett tuned and swarbrick piped, a 4lo and a 500ypvs in the late 80s. Nowadays I regret it every day. I've got a cr500 supermoto that's semi road legal, but it's not practical and not an LC. I've got several friends keeping their feelers out in the vain hope they can find one of my old bikes. They're not on dvla's taxed records but I'm hoping someone has one of them in a shed somewhere
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Post by KevtheRev on Mar 25, 2016 23:57:55 GMT 1
Ffff! , I feel for you man , I sold some nice bikes back in the day (but never a 500 powervalve , I think there were only 13 of those sold new here ) . I was a courier for years and bikes for work always had to take precedence over bikes for pleasure . I bought a brand new XR400R one time for work but had to trade it in for a CB500 'cos it took Super Unleaded and they stopped selling it here (wasn't practical but it was some fun , lol)
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Post by steve h on Mar 26, 2016 0:53:07 GMT 1
Has anybody got a spare box of Swan vesats matches?? The reason being that despite the ITV coverage being described as "highlights", I find it impossible to keep my eyes open. This inevitably leads to the knocking out of many zzzzzzeds, that end abruptly as soon as moto 2&3 appear on screen. So, if any of you have any swans for wedging my f**k**g eyes wide open, I would be very grateful.....or possibly not.....
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Post by Samz on Mar 28, 2016 19:43:59 GMT 1
Have the bikes still got "rider aids" this season? If so it could well be abit boring with Lorenzo clearing off in the lead most races. Like him or not he is the fastest and most consistent right now. Like most of us , I'd love to see a Brit win a round but realistically it's unlikely unless the "top" 4-5 riders drop out. Even then I wouldn't have a bet on Cal Crashlow still being on the bike to take a win at the end of the race!
PS, I hope to be proved wrong but I think Rossi has had his day as far as winning the title again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 3:04:31 GMT 1
Rider aids have been reduced, the Yamaha's and Ducati's have been running a form of the Magneti Marelli software and hardware for some time now and are more used to it than Honda, who have used their own software
That's why Honda are struggling as they haven't yet mastered the software, they have found some sort of fix which is why MM was up there for 3rd
The fix hadn't been passed down to the satellite teams hence they are asking for an explanation from Honda One race doesn't make a season I'd be watching for Rossi and others to make improvements in the European rounds where they know the tracks better
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Post by paulsx on Mar 29, 2016 13:38:30 GMT 1
The Honda was running a complicated system where they measured engine torque real time and then adjusted the engine to give a linear output. Now they have had to use a control ecu they can still run this system but its made available to everyone and Honda dont want that to happen hence why they are struggling.
Looking at how well the Yamahas are going it shows that the bike is obviously a much better allrounder, i.e not overly quick but handles well and looks after the tyres but also they were less dependant on the rider aids than some others. Put someone like Lorenzo on it and his going to be tough to beat as he seems to be able to run softer tyres and setup than most.
I think on a Honda or Ducati Lorenzo would still win a title, his a class act. You can't deny Rossi's achievements but some of his titles were won against very average competition as were Doohans. He has had a much longer career than most, back in the 500 days you were lucky to last a few seasons but the 4 strokes are far more forgiving.
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Post by mellow on Mar 29, 2016 15:26:57 GMT 1
Gonna add my tuppence worth here as I get sick of hearing how great rossi is.
Lorenzo all the way for me.
All I hear is rossi is great-he can adapt his riding style to any situation-can overcome tyre issues-and lastly it was maquez''s fault at that race last year. So one question. .....if he that great and can adapt to all things.....why the hell didn't he do that last year at every race and win every race and why so far behind leaders. He's a t**t in my eyes and that's fuelled by everyone that goes on about it.
NEXT! !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 16:06:44 GMT 1
Got to agree with Mellow
Apparently he and JB, who I have got time for, until this statement
"We know how to fix the Ducati"
Hmmm don't think so, if he could adapt why didn't he on the Duc
To get his 10th title I'll say again is an achievement, however that said he needs to stop blaming other riders for his shortcomings
As for Doohan up against soft opposition, I don't think that is quite correct either, Schwantz, Rainey, Mamola, Kocinski, Cadalora and Beattie were all his opponents during his career, you can add Lawson and Gardner when he first started, hardly soft opposition except for 1997 when there wasn't much
Remember also after breaking his leg in Assen and coming back to racing he could not use the rear brake on his bike because of that injury, so Honda fitted a hand operated rear brake instead, so his 4 consecutive titles were without a rear foot brake, only three people had done that Agostini, Hailwood and Doohan
The leg issue I think makes his titles all the more real, that's my opinion
The banter is good though and we could argue for decades
Roll on Argentina this weekend, another track most of the riders do not know well
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Post by mellow on Mar 29, 2016 16:38:42 GMT 1
Roll on Argentina this weekend, another track most of the riders do not know well Yes and COME ON LORENZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 16:43:03 GMT 1
Maybe not Lorenzo, how about Dovi, Iannone or Vinales for something different to freshen things up
I likes my Ducs and Suzi Q's as well as my Hondas and Yamaha's, Aprilia's well that's another story
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Post by mellow on Mar 29, 2016 17:15:22 GMT 1
LORENZOOOOOOO
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Post by yamfan on Mar 29, 2016 22:05:34 GMT 1
Rider aids have been reduced, the Yamaha's and Ducati's have been running a form of the Magneti Marelli software and hardware for some time now and are more used to it than Honda, who have used their own software That's why Honda are struggling as they haven't yet mastered the software, they have found some sort of fix which is why MM was up there for 3rd The fix hadn't been passed down to the satellite teams hence they are asking for an explanation from Honda One race doesn't make a season I'd be watching for Rossi and others to make improvements in the European rounds where they know the tracks better If Rossi doesn't know his way around the tracks by now he shouldn't be riding matey. He didn't finish 4th at Losail because he forgot his sat nav ?
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Post by Slabsideian on Mar 29, 2016 23:19:02 GMT 1
You know what? I think some of you are right about Rossi not being able to adapt to other bikes!!! It's cars too!!!!! Ha ha. Check it
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