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Post by bobbyboy on May 22, 2015 15:31:17 GMT 1
Not been on here for a while, and lost touch a bit with what's going on, illness and life getting in the way... I've come to the conclusion that I need to clear the decks a bit, and let some bikes go to new homes. One is my RD500. Almost all original, 7k miles, loads of paperwork to support this low mileage, etc. But prices seem all over the shop recently, and I'm having trouble finding a fair value to put on it, both for me and a buyer. Can any sensible, fair minded people suggest their opinions on value, before I advertise it, even if it is fruit/biscuits/soup....?  |
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Post by jackjabba on May 22, 2015 16:19:00 GMT 1
I would say a fair price would be £8000.
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Post by stusco on May 22, 2015 16:37:40 GMT 1
Bargin ten grand cheaper than the one in Edinburgh Harley. But I agree with eight grand looks a good example too wish I had wedge to spend or I'd be in there.
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Post by LC_BOTT on May 22, 2015 17:07:51 GMT 1
Agree, £7-8K, should end with a sale, and not waiting 6 months for a bite, you could chance it a bit higher, be a shame to loose out on some extra £££'s
Didn't 'Begbie' sell one (or two) a little while ago??
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Post by fozzy17 on May 22, 2015 18:07:04 GMT 1
about 7 to 8 k tops, if its mint and around 5k for a nail, mate of mine just bought a low mileage rz for 5k and restored it (budwiser one on the bay), it had paint, chain sprockets, calipers rebuilt, and a good clean, new tyres, you could try and get more and might get lucky, I might be interested in a cash buy, but I wouldn't pay over inflated price.. or hang onto it for a few years .. I prefer the rz the rd isn't as good steel frame ect but purist may prefer the rd, just sold my hybrid..
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Post by begbie on May 22, 2015 18:59:32 GMT 1
Yes I sold a really good one in Sept 14 (well I did have 3), engine was vac, pressure and comp tested , It had under 2000 miles on rebuild and new paint on most panels, tax and tested I got £7350
Low milage is no garantee of an engine in good health, so I mostly ignore it.
However most people are blinded by a shiney bike.
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Post by wolfboy1 on May 22, 2015 20:51:49 GMT 1
However most people are blinded by a shiney bike. what's not to like with a shiny bike  |
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Post by iwantalc on May 22, 2015 21:07:50 GMT 1
nice bike would say looking at others that have been 4 sale on ebay between 8 to 9000 rg 500s always seem to be more popular and fewer listed must say on a preference i like the rg more than the rd but just my personal choice of the 500 2strokes but that all said a very nice exhample of a rd 500 and i hope what ever you advertise it for you acheive as it is a lovelly bike all the best..
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Post by wolfboy1 on May 22, 2015 21:25:10 GMT 1
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Post by iwantalc on May 22, 2015 21:35:52 GMT 1
but exactly what i said a wreck of a rg 500 still making 5600 with 33 bidders needing complete restoration and still 20 hrs to go as i said rg/s are a more sought after bike
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Post by iwantalc on May 22, 2015 21:42:55 GMT 1
with reference to my above comment i am not trying to take anything away from bobbyboys bike it is a beautiful rd and if it was mine i wouldnt sell it.
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Post by bobbyboy on May 23, 2015 9:18:43 GMT 1
Well, I'm very surprised. No insults or silly offers, so far! Thanks guys!
I've searched all the usual outlets for a guide on 500 prices, and only seem to have come across the same 3, up at £9995, an obscene £17995, and a project for £4995.
Not really guides to help with the value of mine. I don't want to be silly and overvalue it, but at the same time, I don't want to undervalue it and sell myself short.
I'll put up an advert in the For Sale section, and see what interest I get.
Thanks for your help everyone!
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Post by edwin on May 23, 2015 10:11:38 GMT 1
When is your Ad going on bobbyboy ? I might be interested.
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Post by bobbyboy on May 23, 2015 11:40:46 GMT 1
Just getting the advert written out, will try and get it on today.
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Post by edwin on May 23, 2015 16:11:16 GMT 1
Let us know how you get on ?
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Post by wolfboy1 on May 23, 2015 17:30:37 GMT 1
6k that rg sold for , way over priced ( rusty / corroded / broken fairing etc etc ) spend 2k on an engine rebuild than you've got a 8k rusty and corroded rg ................. wtf
some people are mad !
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Post by alistair64 on May 23, 2015 21:57:39 GMT 1
That RG went for a completely insane price!
A complete pile of pants for over £6K?...you must be kidding!
I lie in the opposite camp and think an RD is a more desirable proposition to an RG.
Personally I think it holds more 'classic status', but maybe that's due to it being an RD.
Sure, the RG may be a slightly better bike, but that's because it came after the RD and Suzuki had something to aim at in terms of marketing, so not difficult to produce something lighter and slightly quicker. Just like the X7 and the RD250.
But that doesn't make one worth more in the long term.
Yamaha are the innovators and IMO that's what makes the bikes more desirable.
It's hard to put a value on a bike that we haven't seen in the flesh. Photos can only give a clue, but it does look nice.
I'd say at least £8K, assuming the condition in real life is as good as it looks by the photo.
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Post by fozzy17 on May 23, 2015 22:35:00 GMT 1
That RG went for a completely insane price! A complete pile of pants for over £6K?...you must be kidding! I lie in the opposite camp and think an RD is a more desirable proposition to an RG. Personally I think it holds more 'classic status', but maybe that's due to it being an RD. Sure, the RG may be a slightly better bike, but that's because it came after the RD and Suzuki had something to aim at in terms of marketing, so not difficult to produce something lighter and slightly quicker. Just like the X7 and the RD250. But that doesn't make one worth more in the long term. Yamaha are the innovators and IMO that's what makes the bikes more desirable. It's hard to put a value on a bike that we haven't seen in the flesh. Photos can only give a clue, but it does look nice. I'd say at least £8K, assuming the condition in real life is as good as it looks by the photo. Slightly better bike? Having owned the two the rg is better in every way the rd is not even close, went out on my rg today and a mate on his restored rz500 you can't compare them, the rg would just pull away with ease, Its about 20kg lighter and more power, I like the rd500 but you can't compare them apart they are both 500cc |
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Post by edwin on May 24, 2015 6:51:00 GMT 1
Well done fozzy17 for writing that! I was considering launching a bid for this RD500 at the suggested £8K but I felt sure that it wouldn't live up to my RG500 in terms of performance, then when I saw it on at £9K that sealed the deal so I'm glad to see your opinion and know that I'm not missing out too much. The RD500 is a thing of beauty no doubt and this one does look like a lovely example but hopefully once I'm flying around on my RG again I wont give it a second thought!
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Post by fozzy17 on May 24, 2015 7:56:49 GMT 1
Well done fozzy17 for writing that! I was considering launching a bid for this RD500 at the suggested £8K but I felt sure that it wouldn't live up to my RG500 in terms of performance, then when I saw it on at £9K that sealed the deal so I'm glad to see your opinion and know that I'm not missing out too much. The RD500 is a thing of beauty no doubt and this one does look like a lovely example but hopefully once I'm flying around on my RG again I wont give it a second thought! Don't get me wrong I would have one just my personal choice is the RG, if you ever get one side by side move them about and see the weight difference alone, the rg is more like a a fat 250.... |
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Post by edwin on May 24, 2015 8:02:44 GMT 1
I had a go on a mates RD years ago - it was in Marlboro colours and I loved the sound but I was shocked at how lethargic it felt. I don't think it was running right really.
Another thing; my local bike mechanic has 2 in his workshop covered up - they've been there for months. I think it's because they need parts and that's a bit of a concern to me. I'll content myself with the bikes I already have I think (including the RG).
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Post by alistair64 on May 24, 2015 9:44:55 GMT 1
Looks like I nearly started an RD vs RG debate.... Despite the above, I still stand by my statement that the RG is a slightly better bike. Yes, it's lighter, but the performance figures don't suggest that it's massively better. Although I have never ridden an RG I admit, my mate owned both back in the late eighties and I remember him using the words 'alround slightly better' too. Anyway, my real point was that IMO the RD will always be a more desirable proposition than an RG in terms of classic status. It doesn't need to be a 'better' bike to achieve this. As I said before, it's innovation that often sets apart one bike or car from another. Personally I'd take a nice tidy example of an RD any day over an RG, even though I admit it's based mainly on looks, but each to their own as they say  |
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Post by fozzy17 on May 24, 2015 11:00:32 GMT 1
Looks like I nearly started an RD vs RG debate.... Despite the above, I still stand by my statement that the RG is a slightly better bike. Yes, it's lighter, but the performance figures don't suggest that it's massively better. Although I have never ridden an RG I admit, my mate owned both back in the late eighties and I remember him using the words 'alround slightly better' too. Anyway, my real point was that IMO the RD will always be a more desirable proposition than an RG in terms of classic status. It doesn't need to be a 'better' bike to achieve this. As I said before, it's innovation that often sets apart one bike or car from another. Personally I'd take a nice tidy example of an RD any day over an RG, even though I admit it's based mainly on looks, but each to their own as they say you need to ride a sorted rg, there is a big difference, yesterday I passed me mate on his rz as if he was standing still, my rg is stock apart from pipes and its making 90 at the wheel a rd is around 75 and 20kg heavier, until you ride both or even better get out with someone then you will realize how much better the rg is, and im a Yamaha nut ive go few yam smokers but they are chalk and cheese.. |
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Post by edwin on May 24, 2015 11:13:57 GMT 1
Looks like I nearly started an RD vs RG debate.... Despite the above, I still stand by my statement that the RG is a slightly better bike. Yes, it's lighter, but the performance figures don't suggest that it's massively better. Although I have never ridden an RG I admit, my mate owned both back in the late eighties and I remember him using the words 'alround slightly better' too. Anyway, my real point was that IMO the RD will always be a more desirable proposition than an RG in terms of classic status. It doesn't need to be a 'better' bike to achieve this. As I said before, it's innovation that often sets apart one bike or car from another. Personally I'd take a nice tidy example of an RD any day over an RG, even though I admit it's based mainly on looks, but each to their own as they say I'm not worried about looks....that's what I've got an NS400R for |
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Post by begbie on May 24, 2015 11:18:15 GMT 1
Fozzy, your comparison is worthless as one bike has Pipes, of course your going to sail past with another 15hp. In the real world both bikes with a fresh engine, and well set up, make mid 70 bhp on a dynopro,(I have both bikes)
The RD is much more tractable below 6k, but it is heavier.
The RG is easier to get big power out of.
As stock bikes there both slow wobbly dinosaurs (but do sound great) :-)
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Post by fozzy17 on May 24, 2015 11:28:48 GMT 1
Fozzy, your comparison is worthless as one bike has Pipes, of course your going to sail past with another 15hp. In the real world both bikes with a fresh engine, and well set up, make mid 70 bhp on a dynopro,(I have both bikes) The RD is much more tractable below 6k, but it is heavier. The RG is easier to get big power out of. As stock bikes there both slow wobbly dinosaurs (but do sound great) :-) the rz500 I was passing has pipes (lim lomas ss) and jetted to suit and restored, I agree they are both great bikes just imo ,ou cant compare one is a much better bike, Suzuki looked the rd500 and made the rg lighter and faster, I agree the are buggers to go around corners and ive never been so frightened on the rg as its nearly killed me a few times.. |
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Post by rd84 on May 24, 2015 11:32:43 GMT 1
Hi,
I've got a one owner low mileage RD500 in good condition - I reckon it's worth £7000 to £8000 on a good day ( I think even this is a crazy price ! )
Originality seems important to a lot of people aspiring to and owning RD500's - so go over the bike and make sure the small easily fixed details are correct. Your bike looks really good, but the missing Yamaha decals on the belly pan for example can give a wrong impression to a picky buyer - I think a small investment in money and time fixing small faults will pay off - however don't pay too much out - good quality RD500 spares prices are a bit crazy at the moment.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Paul
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Post by fozzy17 on May 24, 2015 11:58:50 GMT 1
Hi, I've got a one owner low mileage RD500 in good condition - I reckon it's worth £7000 to £8000 on a good day ( I think even this is a crazy price ! ) Originality seems important to a lot of people aspiring to and owning RD500's - so go over the bike and make sure the small easily fixed details are correct. Your bike looks really good, but the missing Yamaha decals on the belly pan for example can give a wrong impression to a picky buyer - I think a small investment in money and time fixing small faults will pay off - however don't pay too much out - good quality RD500 spares prices are a bit crazy at the moment. Hope this helps. Cheers Paul I wouldn't pay more than 7k for one and that would have to be mint.. something needs engine work could be a 2k build, and paint your looking a grand or more |
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Post by wolfboy1 on May 24, 2015 17:52:34 GMT 1
wouldn't pay more than 7k for one and that would have to be mint.. something needs engine work could be a 2k build, and paint your looking a grand or more then you will never own one  |
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Post by fozzy17 on May 24, 2015 17:56:50 GMT 1
wouldn't pay more than 7k for one and that would have to be mint.. something needs engine work could be a 2k build, and paint your looking a grand or more then you will never own one Umm I just sold one  |
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