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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 13, 2014 22:33:48 GMT 1
Just bought a stator plate for an LC off ebay, said it came off a "seized" bike and that there was "a good chance it was sound", ok I thinks, so I bid on it and won it for £37+ P+P (£45 in total) thinking the chap doesn't know how to test them so fair do's.
Anyway, needless to say, it arrives, I test it and its shagged, so I send a message back to the guy saying as such, his response is a peach, it clearly shows he know's how to test them and that this one was shagged, rather than just say that, he misleads people with some "half-assed" clever wording and thinks, ok, I'll have your dosh thanks very much, what a complete t**t, whatever happened to honest people, another example of ebay allowing people to get away with selling shit as something else
You'd think I'd know better by now, anyway, the ebay id is davcb1260
no idea if he is on here or not (and I don't care if he is !), if he is he should be ashamed of himself, if he isn't, I'd suggest you watch what you buy, he's going on my band list !
I sent this;
"Hi, got the stator plate today, however, I've checked the windings and the low side windings are out of tolerance (228 ohms instead of 271 +/- 10%) by a long way which means they will not work correctly. This is rather unfortunate as the other components are fine, but needless to say this item is not suitable Please advise on how you wish to proceed Regards Dave"
His response is below;
"hi sorry your not happy with the stator plate, it came to me on a seized engine as stated, i also stated that theres a good chance its sound, i never stated it was working, if i had tested it and found it to be working the auction starting price would have been £45, i never tested it so i started the auction at £10 which was a fair price for one that needs rewinding if it was found to be faulty, so how did the item not match the description, whilst watching your auction fever i thought to myself this chap likes a gamble, if you had got it for £10 would you still be asking for a refund "
At which point I said back;
"umm, so what I take from that is that you knew it was faulty as otherwise you would have started it at a higher price. You clearly know how to test them and since its such a quick job I fail to see how you wouldn't do such a test if you reckon a good working item is worth so much more. In respect of gambling, I don't gamble, I bid for an item that was portrayed as "a good chance it was sound", which suggested you didn't know how to test them, which is clearly not the case from your well articulated response and knowledge of such things. Rather disappointing to say the least"
in respect of his last bit about getting it for £10, I would ahbve still asked for a refund, I don't need anymore shagged stators !
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Feb 13, 2014 22:54:48 GMT 1
Dave did you pay by paypal?
I regularly get messages from paypal reminding me they going to process my payments 2 weeks after the transaction.
I'm not sure if i did anything or its a default paypal setting but seems to come up for most my transactions at mo.
If so, just cancel the transaction and put the ball back into his court to come up with a compromise. Tossa!
Thanks for the tip tho, will look out for him.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 13, 2014 23:06:04 GMT 1
yeah, cheers Shaun, I've just checked on his history and items for sale, he clearly knows his LC's etc as he has sold lots of parts for them, so he knew full well that it was shagged, I do hope he is a member on here, then he can explain himself, although I doubt he will, he's £37+ quid better off, so only one loser here - me
Hope has an issue with his LC/bike and I know the answer to it, as like f**k will I help him - what goes around comes around, its not like me to get irritated by syuch sh*t, but this one has really annoyed me, if anyone knows him, give him a slap from me !
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Post by stfocus on Feb 13, 2014 23:06:19 GMT 1
It's people like them who make it hard work for genuine people on there wan×ers
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Post by gringo on Feb 13, 2014 23:18:54 GMT 1
Sorry to hear your story mate, the best we can do is police ourselves, anyone on the forum we should trust, if people are are on the forum and doing this shit then should rightly be outed and at least we know who they are and not to any deals , same with any e bayers doing this shite , name and shame , they won't give a toss but at least we know who they are (tossers )
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Post by budgie on Feb 13, 2014 23:19:20 GMT 1
With to55ers like that, I am afraid I would just do a paypal dispute and get your refund, sounds like he knew exactly what he was selling.... Get your money back .... Too hard earn't these days....
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Post by marc88 on Feb 13, 2014 23:27:37 GMT 1
Why it try not usin evil bay..what a tosser.
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Post by nikfubar on Feb 13, 2014 23:30:41 GMT 1
Start an eBay dispute stating you were diliberatly sold defective parts & eBay will probably find in your favour & refund you out of his account even if he objects. They are very bias in favour of buyers
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Post by raven13 on Feb 13, 2014 23:49:55 GMT 1
i agree with nikfubar. start a dispute with ebay and paypal. they will 99% of the time award it to the buyer.
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Post by JonW on Feb 13, 2014 23:53:25 GMT 1
Agreed, mostly likley they will tell you to send it back and they will refund you as soon as you advise them of the tracking number. Simples... And annoying when you get shonky buyers as a seller, but in this case its valid use of that mechanism o course.  |
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Post by botty on Feb 13, 2014 23:55:06 GMT 1
Dave. If you did pay via Paypal. You are protected. Claim it back.
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Post by shandyboy on Feb 14, 2014 0:01:46 GMT 1
2nd that get onto paypal mate he knows exactly what he's doing don't leave it at that fight it you have nothing to lose!! "good luck"
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Post by raven13 on Feb 14, 2014 0:12:43 GMT 1
MAYBE we shud have a name and shame thread.
give the scamming basturds nowere to hide
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Post by gringo on Feb 14, 2014 0:22:58 GMT 1
Got to agree with you raven , name and Shame , know who the scammers are and then they can't trade !
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Post by AndyYam on Feb 14, 2014 0:41:30 GMT 1
Shame these things happen and its just the risk you take with ebay. You never know if you are going to be dealing with the likes of someone who is so clearly out for themselves without a thought for others. Open the paypal case and i hope you get a good result. you will probably lose out on postage charges though which isnt fair but is ebays policy. if you find out who it is then name and shame.
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Post by shandyboy on Feb 14, 2014 0:42:02 GMT 1
I that would defo help and stop anyone else getting hit
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Post by botty on Feb 14, 2014 0:53:48 GMT 1
Ebay is a big risk at times.
I won a ypvs item only £7 or so. Sent paypal payment, remained unclaimed.
Seller pm's "send cheque, don't do paypal".
Alarm bells ring. Thinking "Gotta trust people" Sent cheque, item arrived. Happy dayz. However not always.
I had issues with our mate FFH, yeah, funds-for-her.
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Post by soccersmyth on Feb 14, 2014 1:49:59 GMT 1
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 14, 2014 9:38:38 GMT 1
cheers guys, I've opened a case with ebay and will look into paypal about getting my money back, yeah name and shame, I think its high tide we do that, even if we only do it on this forum, at least its another service that the forum members will enjoy and at least give a heads up to any potential scammers out there, as been said already, its hard enough these days getting parts without tosspots like this being on the scene, he has other stuff for sale at the moment, so beware, he has sold lots of LC/YPVS stuff and seems to have got good feedback, which on the face of it looks good, but I wonder how many of those people have actually checked/or tested the part before leaving feedback, after been caught a few times I don't leave feedback until I've checked the item
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 14, 2014 10:48:05 GMT 1
What was the ebay item number?
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 14, 2014 10:57:45 GMT 1
Found it!
The Items Specifics state :-
"Condition: Used: An item that has been previously used. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or shop return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections"
Fully operational..... you know what to do now! :-)
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 14, 2014 11:37:28 GMT 1
Hi, cheers for that, I never thought to check that, but its a good point isn't it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 12:35:48 GMT 1
I think it's an excellent idea to have a section naming the dirty rip off e bay dogs
Now where's a bloody mod when you want one?
NORBO
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 14, 2014 17:29:14 GMT 1
dispute raised etc, have to wait 8 days now before I can get ebay to intervene, why 8 days I don't know, but I can wait, the piece of junk isn't going anywhere !
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Post by Ragger rd on Feb 14, 2014 18:03:13 GMT 1
If you paid by pay pal they will shut his account straight away,his account will be frozen until dispute is sorted,bear this in mind if you ever pay by pay pal as a gift you are not covered by them,trust me I just been had,phoned the bank as well and nothing they can do either
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Post by atomicstroker on Feb 14, 2014 18:56:14 GMT 1
Preumably when you paid him you saw who he was and where he lives/trades from? At least his email address? why not publish his I.D. and be damned? Shouldn't be allowed to scam like that.
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Post by soccersmyth on Feb 14, 2014 22:12:32 GMT 1
If you paid by pay pal they will shut his account straight away,his account will be frozen until dispute is sorted,bear this in mind if you ever pay by pay pal as a gift you are not covered by them,trust me I just been had,phoned the bank as well and nothing they can do either The paypal gift thing seems to be an unwritten bond of trust between forum members. I've bought and sold on the forum this way with no probs. So if you've been nipped this way. YOU should name and shame too .... |
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Post by JonW on Feb 14, 2014 22:43:35 GMT 1
Agreed, the gift thing is great between forumers, after all 'we are not ebay', but on ebay you should always pay with normal paypal.
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Post by chez on Feb 14, 2014 22:48:50 GMT 1
what ever you do when you return it make sure its done throught ebay with a tracking number trust me
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Post by spooch63 on Feb 14, 2014 22:51:23 GMT 1
HI,
if its just the stator plate you want i might have one knocking around my workshop if you still want one, i managed to buy plate and flywheel as knackered my flywheel getting it off, have no idea if it works or not but will refund you if its knackered, can put up a photo if your interested.
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