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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 4, 2024 19:41:58 GMT 1
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Post by donkeychomp on Jun 4, 2024 21:18:39 GMT 1
Don't know how they did it mate but the question has to be why? First glimpse it kinda looks like a late 60's bike, then you read the specs. I didn't realise you could make a 350cc 2 stroke that slow. Well done and all that but give it a bit more oomph.
Alex
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Post by tony2stroke on Jun 4, 2024 21:34:01 GMT 1
Don't know how they did it mate but the question has to be why? First glimpse it kinda looks like a late 60's bike, then you read the specs. I didn't realise you could make a 350cc 2 stroke that slow. Well done and all that but give it a bit more oomph. Alex £168 and you can have the tuned version  I am sure you could get significant power gains very easily. |
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Post by donkeychomp on Jun 4, 2024 22:17:50 GMT 1
More than likely...but LOOK at it. Sheesh. If you want that kind of thing a bog standard RD250 would be way better and probably cheaper.
Alex
ps the name on the tank...
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Post by gavink on Jun 5, 2024 6:17:59 GMT 1
Saw a modified Jawa 350 in Bellac, France yesterday afternoon when I stopped for a coffee, expansions, full fairing and single seat unit.
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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 5, 2024 6:31:57 GMT 1
More than likely...but LOOK at it. Sheesh. If you want that kind of thing a bog standard RD250 would be way better and probably cheaper. Alex ps the name on the tank... Ah, you'll be wanting the modern looking version then? www.jawamotorcycles.co.uk/350_classic_2t.html |
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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 5, 2024 6:36:18 GMT 1
I didn't realise you could make a 350cc 2 stroke that slow. Alex Single carb won't be helping, air cooled too, oh, and for added classic appeal, it runs on premix at 40:1 |
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Post by arrow on Jun 5, 2024 7:16:09 GMT 1
I had one of the last ones ever made of the previous generation, and I absolutely loved it.
A perfect commuter bike. So quiet in the cylinders you would swear it was water cooled, with your eyes shut.
Very economical, totally reliable, very rideable. Fully enclosed chain and fork gaters for practicality. Doddle to service, and the easiest thing to work on.
Don't knock it till you've tried it.
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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 5, 2024 7:24:29 GMT 1
I had one of the last ones ever made of the previous generation, and I absolutely loved it. A perfect commuter bike. So quiet in the cylinders you would swear it was water cooled, with your eyes shut. Very economical, totally reliable, very rideable. Fully enclosed chain and fork gaters for practicality. Doddle to service, and the easiest thing to work on. Don't knock it till you've tried it. I think it's great that you can actually buy a brand new 2 stroke motorcycle of a decent capacity. OK, the power output is low, but Jawas were always about being a utilitarian form of transport for the masses and they tend to go on forever with minimal maintenance, the torque figure of 32 is actually pretty decent. |
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Post by veg on Jun 5, 2024 8:14:07 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 5, 2024 8:29:37 GMT 1
To be honest the shape of the "classic" model is not so different from any modern 250 - 500cc commuter
Steve
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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 5, 2024 8:36:49 GMT 1
The price in India is a shade over £2,000. If they were that here, I reckon they'd sell well. |
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Post by lcmarky on Jun 5, 2024 8:36:55 GMT 1
Love it.. Remember how we all smocked the MZs and now they are retro cool. This is retro cool too - Well done Jawa..
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Post by tony2stroke on Jun 5, 2024 9:48:44 GMT 1
I had one of the last ones ever made of the previous generation, and I absolutely loved it. A perfect commuter bike. So quiet in the cylinders you would swear it was water cooled, with your eyes shut. Very economical, totally reliable, very rideable. Fully enclosed chain and fork gaters for practicality. Doddle to service, and the easiest thing to work on. Don't knock it till you've tried it. My brother used one as a London courier, with a sidecar, we laughed at first, but it served him well. I spotted it for sale just round the corner from me for £250, he came down to Wales to collect it, and then took it back to London on the train, we all thought it was hilarious 😂 |
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Post by abar121 on Jun 5, 2024 10:40:00 GMT 1
The price in India is a shade over £2,000. If they were that here, I reckon they'd sell well. Lets hope the Jawa is built better than the KTM, both made in India. |
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Post by Norbo on Jun 5, 2024 13:53:34 GMT 1
couple of things (23 bhp) at 5250 rpm so thats not very revy for a 2 stroke and very poor BHP and yet still sloer then a 125 LC that has 12BHP
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Post by arrow on Jun 5, 2024 14:30:06 GMT 1
Agree, the price is too high. The power is good for 5250rpm. That's 46hp for 10500 rpm. They won't do that, because they are not designed to. Stroke too long to rev that high.
But fit for purpose, they very much are.
We have all read write ups about the (excellent) 250 race reps. being hard to live with below the power band.... these things are not like that. OK, not quick, but trust me they are very enjoyable in a relaxed way.
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Post by veg on Jun 5, 2024 14:32:50 GMT 1
Serious question who is the target audience? It’s not a cheap commuter, £6k gets a lot of car, a scooter of a reasonable cc cheaper than this, therefore who do they envisage selling them to? I’m baffled by the entry point price esp when you then think an fz700/cbr650 etc is about £1k more.
I do love the simplicity and have always had a soft spot for mz’s cz’s Jawa etc but nope not at £6k
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 5, 2024 15:17:33 GMT 1
I think it's a greedy marketing ploy
If that's for sale for 2k in Asia but 6k over here that's got to be supposed to sucker the trendy retro had it back in the day lot
Problem is that it works for Z's, RD's etc but the people buying them back then were skint and using them for commuting. Can't see anybody in the beard oil/brown seat brigade popping down the High St for a coffee on one
Most likely LEZ compliant too as the nox is done as a percentage of emissions so will seem low amongst all those hydrocarbons from the 2 stroke oil
Steve
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Post by arrow on Jun 5, 2024 20:02:27 GMT 1
Agree with all, 6k, not a chance when you look at some of the competition.
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Post by donkeychomp on Jun 5, 2024 21:13:47 GMT 1
SIX GRAND?? Feck me that's a very good A/C 250 or a running and riding LC. I don't understand who they think will buy one, not in Europe or North America anyway...
Alex
ps that sporty one looks lush.
pps not really.
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Post by urbantangleweed on Jun 6, 2024 8:36:13 GMT 1
SIX GRAND?? Feck me that's a very good A/C 250 or a running and riding LC. I don't understand who they think will buy one, not in Europe or North America anyway... Alex ps that sporty one looks lush. pps not really. OK, not a 2 stroke, but when you consider a brand new Honda CB500 Hornet can be had for about the same money and you get double the BHP, why would anyone go Jawa? |
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Post by liffy16 on Jun 6, 2024 10:56:16 GMT 1
It is something different on the market which is good if you want a new 2stroke for b roads/back lanes then they sort of make sense ,think a few people will find them appealing price aside
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