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Post by yamman1066 on Dec 13, 2023 12:16:28 GMT 1
eBay item number:335157782167
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Post by dougw on Dec 13, 2023 13:10:02 GMT 1
Engine in pieces in a box is never a good thing.
Prices of what used to be a few hundred £ bikes 10 years ago being £2K plus always puzzles this tight old git, but I`d say its a bit overpriced.
One to do for the love of it at that price, don`t think much chance of getting your money back on rebuilding that, if that`s a concern.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 13, 2023 13:52:03 GMT 1
Yeah, I'd have thought £2k was more realistic
As long as the VIN and V5 are all good
The problem with it is that a lot of it looks scrap like the forks. A lot of money to sort it these days
Also the engine may be complete but doesn't look like it was stored well so internals could all be shagged
Steve
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Post by rbridd on Dec 14, 2023 18:49:46 GMT 1
I started with something similar...  ... and applied £5500 and a year of work to get to this...  Parts prices have increased in the past couple of years, so it would be more now. I would say that ebay bike is worth no more than £1000 as a project. It's probably worth more as spare parts. |
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Post by chrisg on Dec 14, 2023 19:15:37 GMT 1
1st, its a 250, not even 350 cylinders. Its only a 350 on the log book. Could be a good project or money pit as parts are expensive, so £2k or less would be a start.
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Post by masonmart on Dec 15, 2023 3:43:43 GMT 1
The real value of this bike is approaching (-)£15k if you add the cost of a 350 engine and around £10k for a good restoration given the massive current inflation for parts and services. When done this model has decent resale value so the real finished "cost" is around £8k plus your time probably more as it wouldn't be matching number. The real "value" at the moment is its scrap value and he should pay an interested party to take it.
My sums show that this bike would be about as bad a buy as you could get in biking unless you absolutely want to pay for the pleasure of doing the restoration in what is now becoming a massively competitive and inflationary market for parts and services. I want to do another project but I'm absolutely out of this section of the market now.
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Post by JonW on Dec 15, 2023 3:58:13 GMT 1
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Dec 15, 2023 10:34:34 GMT 1
Agreed it's one for the love of the resto not for financial reasons. You probably spend £6000-£7000 on it plus 250-300 man hours which if it stays as a 250 will be worth maybe £7000-£7500 when done to top standard.
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Post by chrisg on Dec 15, 2023 12:18:38 GMT 1
Agreed it's one for the love of the resto not for financial reasons. You probably spend £6000-£7000 on it plus 250-300 man hours which if it stays as a 250 will be worth maybe £7000-£7500 when done to top standard. A top end 250 is worth £7k-£7.5K all day long, but unfortunately no one is paying that kind of money ATM. Everyone has other bills on their mind, except Rishi |
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Post by masonmart on Dec 15, 2023 12:46:00 GMT 1
Just saw a reasonable looking and running F2 that sold for £3900 and perfect for a low cost resto or project as it was complete and functioning. The price of bikes is collapsing at the moment but it hasn't hit the end of the market represented by the above bike. I believe that nothing can defy gravity though not even YPVS prices. This was a European bike but I missed a better UK bike last week that sold for £4500. Is there a reason why the F2 would fetch weak prices compared with other 350's?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 15, 2023 13:37:16 GMT 1
Just saw a reasonable looking and running F2 that sold for £3900 and perfect for a low cost resto or project as it was complete and functioning. The price of bikes is collapsing at the moment but it hasn't hit the end of the market represented by the above bike. I believe that nothing can defy gravity though not even YPVS prices. This was a European bike but I missed a better UK bike last week that sold for £4500. Is there a reason why the F2 would fetch weak prices compared with other 350's? I think it is down to the fact that by the time the F2 came out there were TZR FZR GSXR bikes around The F2 was no longer the iconic game changer that the LC and 31k YPVS were Not as popular so less great teen memories to create the demand from the 40, 50 and 60 year old that are buying and building just now Steve |
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Post by reedpete on Dec 15, 2023 14:04:53 GMT 1
Just saw a reasonable looking and running F2 that sold for £3900 and perfect for a low cost resto or project as it was complete and functioning. The price of bikes is collapsing at the moment but it hasn't hit the end of the market represented by the above bike. I believe that nothing can defy gravity though not even YPVS prices. This was a European bike but I missed a better UK bike last week that sold for £4500. Is there a reason why the F2 would fetch weak prices compared with other 350's? There’s very definitely a pecking order… all RDs are equal… just some more equal than others…the prices they sell for reflect that. F2 is way down the list… but still above the R. |
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Post by masonmart on Dec 15, 2023 14:45:53 GMT 1
Thanks guys for the explanation, I really appreciate the attachment from having been there issue, it's one that has influenced me too. I have a very slightly different approach with the RD LC perhaps as I wan't an RD LC teen having worked abroad from 1976 and missed the progressive development of these bikes and the experience of owning them. I personally see the RD350 range from LC through YPVS as the iconic bike and the last of them, the F2, as the best of those icons. As I have no "attachments" I can see that, for me looking to buy and restore again now, the later bikes are the way to go not donor bikes like the above. I've always recognised them as I bike I needed to experience and own but there were so many others. As my wife said, you can't have everything Martin, I mean, where will you put it all  |
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Post by chrisg on Dec 15, 2023 15:47:16 GMT 1
Thanks guys for the explanation, I really appreciate the attachment from having been there issue, it's one that has influenced me too. I have a very slightly different approach with the RD LC perhaps as I wan't an RD LC teen having worked abroad from 1976 and missed the progressive development of these bikes and the experience of owning them. I personally see the RD350 range from LC through YPVS as the iconic bike and the last of them, the F2, as the best of those icons. As I have no "attachments" I can see that, for me looking to buy and restore again now, the later bikes are the way to go not donor bikes like the above. I've always recognised them as I bike I needed to experience and own but there were so many others. As my wife said, you can't have everything Martin, I mean, where will you put it all Build a bigger shed?  |
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Post by liffy16 on Dec 15, 2023 16:49:10 GMT 1
Thanks guys for the explanation, I really appreciate the attachment from having been there issue, it's one that has influenced me too. I have a very slightly different approach with the RD LC perhaps as I wan't an RD LC teen having worked abroad from 1976 and missed the progressive development of these bikes and the experience of owning them. I personally see the RD350 range from LC through YPVS as the iconic bike and the last of them, the F2, as the best of those icons. As I have no "attachments" I can see that, for me looking to buy and restore again now, the later bikes are the way to go not donor bikes like the above. I've always recognised them as I bike I needed to experience and own but there were so many others. As my wife said, you can't have everything Martin, I mean, where will you put it all Build a bigger shed? Or friends/parents garage/shed or workplace always somewhere to stash them from the missus 👍😁 |
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