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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 22, 2023 19:52:44 GMT 1
Hi All,
im picking up a bike thats been covered in ACF 50 for a few years which i hope to get up n running again but unsure how to get the AFC off it without jetwashing/ TFR, any suggestions?
The bike was restored years ago the stored in a heated garage so i need to be carful how i remove the ACF.
Thanks
Mark
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Post by geoffb on Jun 22, 2023 21:16:08 GMT 1
I’ve not seen ACF50 that has been left on for years but have you tried WD40?
Cheers
Geoff
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 22, 2023 22:14:26 GMT 1
Not got the bike yet but it was sprayed on with a compressor years ago just after it was fully rebuilt /restored, WD40 may work but i was hoping for a water based solution if possible , i may have to strip it down and do it by hand  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 22, 2023 22:18:47 GMT 1
Internet seems to suggest sdoc100
Steve
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jun 23, 2023 7:37:31 GMT 1
Would a new type, water based de-greaser work. I covered an old GS I had in ACF50 (straight from the aerosol) used it all through winter, and it was a pain to get it off, used TFR and other industrial based stuff, took a few turns with a pressure washer/brushes etc. I assumed it was because it had baked on, and I'd never washed it for 6 months.
Just wondered if Muc-off was similar to the S100 Steve linked to.
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 9:15:03 GMT 1
Thanks for the suggestions, when i get the bike i will post up some pics and my various attempts to remove the ACF, i havent even seen the bike yet i brought sight unseen so if its a snotter TFR etc but the owner said under the the ACF the bike is mint, if so i need to be careful cleaning it. It was a good price and not many about so hopefully i can get this thing up and running  Oh its a GPz 750 Turbo which i know nothing about, should be with me Saturday week. Mark |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 10:07:39 GMT 1
Very nice 😎
Had one for many years in the 90's
Welcome to the world of debating oil level and parking on the centrestand with a block under the front wheel to stop the turbo having an oil wee 😆
Steve
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Post by arrdy350 on Jun 23, 2023 10:18:11 GMT 1
I have always liked the 750 Turbo 😎
Enjoy it 👍
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 17:00:24 GMT 1
Very nice 😎 Had one for many years in the 90's Welcome to the world of debating oil level and parking on the centrestand with a block under the front wheel to stop the turbo having an oil wee 😆 Steve Ahahahaha the stories i hear about turbos , i will be scared to start it |
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Post by 4l04ever on Jun 23, 2023 17:13:49 GMT 1
I need to get my 750 Turbo project bike rebuilt, as Mrs said she wanted to go on the back. She thinks it is like the standard one I had before....but I have an 810 with big Turbo conversion which was pushing out 279hp.... :-)
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 18:08:05 GMT 1
Very nice 😎 Had one for many years in the 90's Welcome to the world of debating oil level and parking on the centrestand with a block under the front wheel to stop the turbo having an oil wee 😆 Steve Ahahahaha the stories i hear about turbos , i will be scared to start it Mine smoked and dripped oil from the day I bought it till the day I sold it Replaced/repaired everything First was the turbo, then the scavenge pump, then the head, then the block/pistons/rings. Still feckin smoked a little on start up and if left idling Traded it in for a 1000 exup, shop sold it, guy brought it back Turned out the turbo rebuild place had screwed me over and had changed the bearing but not the seals Spent 7 years chasing the problem and had ruled out the turbo as I'd spent a fortune on it Still fast as feck running 10-14 psi boost 😁 Pushes the front so bad it destroys tyres Steve |
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 18:09:56 GMT 1
I need to get my 750 Turbo project bike rebuilt, as Mrs said she wanted to go on the back. She thinks it is like the standard one I had before....but I have an 810 with big Turbo conversion which was pushing out 279hp.... :-) wow just wow, that needs a thread on here or somewhere, mine will be standard...ish , brake lines air filter and any mods to protect the turbo i can find |
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Post by 4l04ever on Jun 23, 2023 18:10:52 GMT 1
zr7 oil pump...
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 18:13:06 GMT 1
Well i joined this forum due to my love of LCs and am now learning about 750 turbos, this is a great forum with top people, i was going to join a dedicated forum for the 750 but i think i will just ask peeps on here |
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 18:14:18 GMT 1
ZR7 is that a straight swap and improves oil flow ? |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 18:15:22 GMT 1
The problem with the scavenge pump is that it has no mesh filter
Turbo pops, bearing shrapnel falls into sub oil pan, scavenge pump socks the shrapnel into the pump and crack the outer pump ring
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 18:19:26 GMT 1
Well i joined this forum due to my love of LCs and am now learning about 750 turbos, this is a great forum with top people, i was going to join a dedicated forum for the 750 but i think i will just ask peeps on here I fully stripped my engine twice Once to replace the block after a piston pin worked its way out the side of the piston. Circlip was still in place, it had been forced deeper into the piston and the pin passed through. Made a right mess of the bore Second time was when the gearbox jammed in 3rd after missing a gear Steve |
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 18:19:54 GMT 1
The problem with the scavenge pump is that it has no mesh filter Turbo pops, bearing shrapnel falls into sub oil pan, scavenge pump socks the shrapnel into the pump and crack the outer pump ring Steve so is there a solution and is it a common issue ( sorry never owned a Kawasaki let alone a 750 Turbo) |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 18:22:35 GMT 1
Only a problem if the bearing fails. Think they smoke a lot before that happens so may not be that common a problem
This was about 93 and it still took 4 months to get a new one
Knowing Kawasaki there will be no chance now
Steve
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Post by 4l04ever on Jun 23, 2023 18:26:19 GMT 1
ZR7 is that a straight swap and improves oil flow ? Some need adjustment. This plus a change of pressure relief valve is the updated mod to increase oil pressure instead of the old mod where you had t drill out passageways etc. I think the info is on 750turbo.com forum, but it is a quiet forum compared to here. |
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Post by mellow on Jun 23, 2023 18:30:45 GMT 1
regarding the acf-50, if done with a compressor it should have been a fine mist over the bike. I'd just use it and wash it, it will eventually come off |
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 23, 2023 18:54:44 GMT 1
deffo going to get used, i was one of the conditions from the seller  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 23, 2023 18:59:19 GMT 1
I think if you give it a bloody good wash it will be fine
They recommend using it when using the bike during winter
Steve
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Post by bruceybonus on Jun 23, 2023 23:57:53 GMT 1
Hi All, im picking up a bike thats been covered in ACF 50 for a few years which i hope to get up n running again but unsure how to get the AFC off it without jetwashing/ TFR, any suggestions? The bike was restored years ago the stored in a heated garage so i need to be carful how i remove the ACF. Thanks Mark Hi, not sure why you would want to remove it, it is there to protect it? If it has been excessively applied and left to gather dust it can look quite messy. Either just use a clean microfibre cloth and wipe the bike down or use warm soapy water as you would in a normal wash. Should come off with minimal agitation (sponge or brush). I professionally prepare/restore bikes and have been using ACF50 for over 10 years. It's on all my own bikes including the 350 ypvs. Love the stuff. ATB Bruce |
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Post by markrd250lc on Jun 24, 2023 8:27:12 GMT 1
Hi All, im picking up a bike thats been covered in ACF 50 for a few years which i hope to get up n running again but unsure how to get the AFC off it without jetwashing/ TFR, any suggestions? The bike was restored years ago the stored in a heated garage so i need to be carful how i remove the ACF. Thanks Mark Hi, not sure why you would want to remove it, it is there to protect it? If it has been excessively applied and left to gather dust it can look quite messy. Either just use a clean microfibre cloth and wipe the bike down or use warm soapy water as you would in a normal wash. Should come off with minimal agitation (sponge or brush). I professionally prepare/restore bikes and have been using ACF50 for over 10 years. It's on all my own bikes including the 350 ypvs. Love the stuff. ATB Bruce Hi Bruce, I want to remove it as the seller said "its covered in AFC 50 which has left a horrible sticky film all over the bike including behind the clocks and in every nook and cranny and its a bugger to remove", He sprayed the bike 20 years ago so i dont know how good/bad it it will be when i get it but if it is a sticky mess i want to remove it without damaging the paint/alloys underneath by using TFR etc. i didnt think ACF would come off with just warm soapy water as its designed to protect against the harshest of weather conditions h but i am willing to try anything TBH  Mark |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 24, 2023 11:21:12 GMT 1
I'd think the excess would come off with warm soapy water
I've seen what it is like as I doused my kettle cases in it last year
Excess comes off with a soft cloth
Steve
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Post by abar121 on Jun 24, 2023 15:05:27 GMT 1
Try the no nonsense degreaser from Screwfix. It's great stuff.
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