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Post by G on Jun 14, 2023 20:57:53 GMT 1
Hi I’ve got a running non matching 4L1 hybrid. I was getting ready to start taking out the motor (which I’ll be selling shortly) as I’ve got a 421 going in, in a couple of months. I noticed that, rather than a stamped frame number, its got a tag and looks like an early frame number 4LO 100 123. Any additional value to these older frames? You can just make the frame number out in the photo flic.kr/p/2oH9YmC |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 14, 2023 21:09:50 GMT 1
That is very early
Should not have tie bars
The vin plate is a Euro thing so not originally UK but it should also have a stamped number
Steve
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jun 14, 2023 21:11:37 GMT 1
That looks like a Euro 4L1 frame. Should be both stamped and have the aluminium VIN plate.
Looks like 4L1 - 000123 to me. Also states 247cc above the number.
You should also have a steering lock fitted to other side of the headstock.
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Post by G on Jun 14, 2023 21:28:35 GMT 1
That is very early Should not have tie bars The vin plate is a Euro thing so not originally UK but it should also have a stamped number Steve Yes has to the frame lock on it. Can’t see a frame number in the vicinity of the tab but could be covered by the heavy powder coating Was just wondering whether these frames are sort after or just a cool thing to have an early one? Seems a shame to use this for the 421 if there’s some value (to someone) in an early numbered frame. Just thought I’d ask the question |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 14, 2023 21:31:11 GMT 1
Only interest/value would be if a complete standard bike with its matching engine
I'd be getting some proper paint stripper onto the powder where the number should be 🫣
Steve
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jun 14, 2023 21:36:07 GMT 1
Seems perfect for hybrid to me.
If it was a UK 4L0 frame with matching cases, then that's another story.
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Post by G on Jun 14, 2023 21:42:44 GMT 1
421 it is then! Actually as it’s non tie bar then maybe this probably isn’t a good idea as the frame will likely twist?
Thoughts?
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jun 14, 2023 21:51:16 GMT 1
Tie bars was added due to stock exhausts cracking due to engine vibration..
If you fitting after market pipes with separate flange fixing it will be fine.
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Post by 4l04ever on Jun 15, 2023 18:50:04 GMT 1
Without the tie bars, the engine actually twists quite a lot. You would only see this on a dyno. The tie bars reduce the twisting.
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