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Post by wassy06 on Feb 10, 2023 9:01:23 GMT 1
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Post by doohanno1 on Feb 10, 2023 9:07:21 GMT 1
And racing in the South is facing the same fate..
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 10, 2023 9:09:53 GMT 1
That's a right p1sser 😕
To be honest though I'd have expected £400k+ for insurance
1 bike going into the crowd would result in massive claims
Suppose the Irish races don't have the money/backing like the TT
Steve
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Post by veg on Feb 10, 2023 9:32:44 GMT 1
Ffs, that’s fecked it completely. Seriously the roads are Ireland and Ireland means the roads. It’s not just the biggies it’s the smaller stuff where beginners get to try it out. This will destroy road racing, it’ll eventually end the TT. I’m surprised the NI assembly aren’t underwriting the insurance just from a tourism perspective.
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Post by lcmarky on Feb 10, 2023 10:39:35 GMT 1
Very sad, but a reflection of the world we live in today!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 10, 2023 12:04:02 GMT 1
Should be a spectating disclaimer to sign
You come to watch, you agree to a tyre print on your head
Steve
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Post by headcoats on Feb 10, 2023 12:15:50 GMT 1
Bloody Hell,life used to be so much simpler 😪
Will our own personal insurance policies go up ...
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Post by mouse on Feb 10, 2023 14:01:24 GMT 1
Absolute tragedy!
I know some of the Irish races were already struggling and now this. I just hope they can return in the future.
Mouse
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Post by steve h on Feb 10, 2023 14:19:37 GMT 1
This is an attack on culture.
A f**kING OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jimmyg on Feb 10, 2023 15:51:58 GMT 1
This is just sad I really like watching the hilights , I can’t believe the Irish government are not going to under write this, the nw200 must bring in Millions on its own
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Post by steve63 on Feb 10, 2023 15:59:51 GMT 1
The cynic in me is saying that getting someone else to pay the insurance is the whole point of this announcement.
Teams have already paid out for bikes, kit, riders, ferries etc already. It's going to be massive if it's all cancelled. I know they said it already is but I'm struggling to believe it.
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Post by veg on Feb 10, 2023 17:57:01 GMT 1
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Post by rigga on Feb 10, 2023 23:03:07 GMT 1
I'm hopefull things will still go ahead, thinking the clubs panicked and jumped the gun.
Maybe playing a blinder if a plan can now be formulated if everyone believes it's the end of road racing over there.
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Post by urbantangleweed on Feb 12, 2023 7:48:43 GMT 1
I read somewhere that it's the excesses that are killing it, £300,000 for personal injury and £100,000 for property. Only factory teams could have any chance of coping with that and many of the entrants are privateers so they're screwed. Thin end of a very thick wedge.......
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Post by jh002 on Feb 12, 2023 22:53:23 GMT 1
Sorry couldn't copy link to this but I have read it elsewhere. So seems to be an issue North & South.
Motorcycling Ireland update
Status as of 11th February. We are currently dealing with 3 insurance brokers, seeking quotes for all events in the Republic due to occur this year. This has been ongoing since November and we are still actively engaging with the brokers. Insurance of this nature, to include public liability, is not the same as individual insurance. Disclaimers by riders and attendees are not considered sufficient. As a result, no broker will provide a quote as it stands. Our current claim bill outstanding is approximately 7 million.
In addition to the work that the MCUI has been doing for the last few months, a media blitz has occurred with RTÉ, the Journal, Independent and other media sources. We would like to thank the local clubs for their support in this matter and would encourage them to continue this whenever possible.
The overall challenge that all of these events are experiencing is twofold: One, the compensation culture that prevails in Ireland. Two, the fact that this 121 year old sport is not considered a legitimate sport by the relevant local and national government in the Republic. To combat this, lobbying will be required by all who care about this sport. Can we suggest that all clubs (whatever your discipline ) and supporters please contact your local councillors and TDs, especially those in areas where these events are run. For the clubs, we would suggest bringing economics into play i.e. x amount of people attend which brings in much needed revenue for the local economy.
Finally, we would like to encourage anyone who has the means to support the go fund arranged by the MCUI UC (link on their Facebook page)
Sean Bissett
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Post by fabiostar on Feb 13, 2023 20:37:49 GMT 1
its a huge loss not just to racing but the entire island, millions will be lost over a year with the income thats generated, when you think the NW200 alone gets around 120,000 spectators over a week..
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Post by wassy06 on Feb 15, 2023 19:24:22 GMT 1
Olivers Mount have their insurance sorted through the ACU for this year’s four meetings. www.oliversmount.com/
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Post by fabiostar on Feb 15, 2023 22:10:03 GMT 1
Ffs, that’s fecked it completely. Seriously the roads are Ireland and Ireland means the roads. It’s not just the biggies it’s the smaller stuff where beginners get to try it out. This will destroy road racing, it’ll eventually end the TT. I’m surprised the NI assembly aren’t underwriting the insurance just from a tourism perspective. in the north we dont even have an Assembly atm, havent had for over a year now.. this will cause so much grief in lost money to the entire island yet both sides of the border the governments dont give a shit.
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Post by veg on Feb 16, 2023 6:10:30 GMT 1
I realised after I’d posted it, that it was still not sitting. So apologies. From a financial perspective eg amount of income generated just from the NW200 it’s huge. Then the fact that the smaller races are feeders for the bigger races, this is going to be a huge problem. It is incredibly short sighted.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 16, 2023 23:18:13 GMT 1
Maybe get every spectator/participant to sign a waiver. Therefore no insurance needed? Just a thought. OR, for the riders, get their own insurance.
Alex
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Post by veg on Feb 17, 2023 7:30:45 GMT 1
Problem is you can’t stop people turning up it’s not like a circuit where you can control access and most roads are easily accessible easily viewed and generally a few miles long. How would you control it? That’s part of the problem, most riders are probably insured from a personal injury side of thing I’d think ( though I could be wrong) it’s the spectators. Then damage to housing, road furniture etc Most of the small races are done under clubs is it their responsibility to insure? Or governing bodies? It’s a right buggers muddle. I just hope they sort it out.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 17, 2023 23:11:56 GMT 1
Of course you're right. I didn't think about the locals that live there! It truly is a muddle.
Alex
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Post by charles13 on Feb 18, 2023 14:55:27 GMT 1
Of course you're right. I didn't think about the locals that live there! It truly is a muddle. Alex I talked to a couple of guys at the Toronto bike show last night, they where from from Celtic Tours in (Ireland) and they where under the impression that this, along with the IOM race had been resolved, they where adventure bike guys in Toronto to promote their motorcycle Tour company.
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Post by rigga on Feb 18, 2023 23:58:13 GMT 1
Could try charging spectators to watch , aside from buying a programme, which I think not a lot do, there's bugger all money generated to the clubs after the outlay of organisation.
Not simple obviously, but if the costs have drastically increased, then you need to look at funding options.
Go fund me pages are the wrong option.
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Post by peddrotzr on Feb 25, 2023 14:18:33 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Feb 25, 2023 15:06:55 GMT 1
Did wonder that as well, got my ferry booked. The big concern needs to be if the smaller races are cancelled what becomes the feeder for the TT? If you don’t have newer riders coming in to the sport it will disappear, or will we see McPint racing at 70?
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Post by peddrotzr on Mar 15, 2023 18:05:36 GMT 1
Road racing in Northern Ireland has been saved and will go ahead in 2023 after new funding was secured. /photo/1
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Post by veg on Mar 15, 2023 19:02:43 GMT 1
Fan bloody tastic
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Post by mouse on Mar 15, 2023 19:06:15 GMT 1
What superb news!!
Mouse
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Post by wassy06 on Mar 15, 2023 19:36:01 GMT 1
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