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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 3, 2022 17:05:40 GMT 1
None of us have mentioned this but I'm sure it's what we're all thinking about.
I've shown a bit of solidarity by putting a flag on my car.
And I'll also be sending some money. I know one thing that's urgently needed are first aid kits, and not the stuff you get from Halfords, so I hope I can perhaps save someone's life with this gesture.
My thoughts are with everyone in that poor country...
Alex
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Post by steve h on Mar 3, 2022 18:10:28 GMT 1
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Post by headcoats on Mar 3, 2022 21:18:41 GMT 1
Interfere and I will nuke you, a game of chess with humans
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Post by veg on Mar 3, 2022 23:02:10 GMT 1
Big thread on pistonheads bout it with various Twitter links and feeds direct from Ukraine 🇺🇦, more insightful than msm. As Steve says it’s always the little man that gets it. Alex there are also few direct links to donation sites for charities there, with 100% going to the people. Apparently the biggest need is for sanitary items for women, food and milk powder etc for the little ones. Heartbreaking and worrying in equal measure. Take care of yourselves and your loved ones.
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Post by stirling11 on Mar 5, 2022 8:15:00 GMT 1
It's really a delicate disaster happening
Yes all of Europe, other countries outside of Europe and NATO condemn the invasion
None however will commit troops or attack Russia because of the threat of nuclear war
My question is "Would Russia want to start a nuclear war ?" what would that achieve except annihilation of the whole world essentially, net result is they would have nothing to crow about, mind you no-one else would either
As Headcoats says it's a game of Nuclear War Chess with Ukraine as the pawns and as Vg says the little man always cops it
Is Taiwan next ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2022 8:43:09 GMT 1
It's really a delicate disaster happening Yes all of Europe, other countries outside of Europe and NATO condemn the invasion None however will commit troops or attack Russia because of the threat of nuclear war My question is "Would Russia want to start a nuclear war ?" what would that achieve except annihilation of the whole world essentially, net result is they would have nothing to crow about, mind you no-one else would either As Headcoats says it's a game of Nuclear War Chess with Ukraine as the pawns and as Vg says the little man always cops it Is Taiwan next ? I believe China is watching very closely, as it's desire to invade Taiwan is very high. Putin knew the world would be reluctant to get involved physically, but I think he underestimated both the resistance of everyday Ukrainian people and the sanctions the world would impose. He could/will soon be as unpopular in his own country, as they are now in the rest of the world. China rely on the world for a massive amount of revenue, I like to hope they will look at the Ukrainian situation and think twice about their plans for Taiwan. Will Putin use the nuclear option? He has the power to, with no checks or balances... so if all else fails, who knows.
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Post by doohanno1 on Mar 9, 2022 0:57:17 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Mar 11, 2022 20:51:52 GMT 1
Not had a drink for over 5 months now, I’m kind of thinking f**k it the way it’s going.
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Mar 11, 2022 21:05:05 GMT 1
Post by jam911 on Mar 11, 2022 21:05:05 GMT 1
It takes me right back to my teens and the worry of being nuked by the Russians.
Putin just seems to be a crazy man....and that is the worry.
w**ker...(Sorry but he really is)
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Mar 11, 2022 21:49:34 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Mar 11, 2022 21:49:34 GMT 1
This just feels a bit more real rather than the bogeyman we’ve a class A c**t rapidly taking the world towards devastation. Still Norbo’s ok he’s got a tank.
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Mar 11, 2022 22:14:13 GMT 1
Post by tony2stroke on Mar 11, 2022 22:14:13 GMT 1
He is not a crazy mad man though, he is a cold calculated "ex" KGB war machine agent, he will stop at nothing, unless stopped, no point having a deterrent if your not prepared to use it, he is banking on the fact the west won't use theirs and don't want to get dragged in, in the meantime he is systematically going forward with his plan, the longer the west stands by and watches, the bolder he will get, he has done similar many times before and no one stopped him, I really am unsure what to think about if he would press the button so to speak, I hope someone on the Russian side takes some action, but I won't be holding my breath because everyone is scared of what would happen if found out, look at the poisoning in the UK and the guy that new too much (polonium) the guy on the bridge, the guy on the plane, Putin is not to be messed with is he, the cost is death, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by steve h on Mar 11, 2022 22:22:50 GMT 1
Anyone remember the Cuban missile crisis??? In 97 Senator Biden said the only thing that would rile the Bear was the expansion of NATO. Guess he was on the ball and with it then...
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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 11, 2022 22:35:21 GMT 1
Anyone remember the Cuban missile crisis??? In 97 Senator Biden said the only thing that would rile the Bear was the expansion of NATO. Guess he was on the ball and with it then... Apparently one general of a nuclear sub said fire, another said WOW hang on, that's how close it was.
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Mar 12, 2022 15:25:37 GMT 1
Post by stirling11 on Mar 12, 2022 15:25:37 GMT 1
He is not a crazy mad man though, he is a cold calculated "ex" KGB war machine agent, he will stop at nothing, unless stopped, no point having a deterrent if your not prepared to use it, he is banking on the fact the west won't use theirs and don't want to get dragged in, in the meantime he is systematically going forward with his plan, the longer the west stands by and watches, the bolder he will get, he has done similar many times before and no one stopped him, I really am unsure what to think about if he would press the button so to speak, I hope someone on the Russian side takes some action, but I won't be holding my breath because everyone is scared of what would happen if found out, look at the poisoning in the UK and the guy that new too much (polonium) the guy on the bridge, the guy on the plane, Putin is not to be messed with is he, the cost is death, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are we going to do? That is I presume the western or non communist world. Not a lot it seems, sure we are giving aid in the form of food and medications and weaponry, there’s talk of Poland giving Ukraine their older MiG’s as long as the US provides Poland with newer fighters, that seems to have shot down, pun intended Theres a lot of talk at the EU parliament, NATO and the UN, claims and counterclaims, however whilst Russia and China (and the USA, France & GB) have the right of a veto on the UN Security Council, nothing will happen, that’s the big issue facing us all, China and or Russia only need to say a big fat NO and the UN Security Council can do nothing The UN, just like it’s predecessor The League of Nations appears to be nothing more than a talking shop, if any combined military force attacks Russia then WW3 will begin, similarly with China, expect an un-winnable war, in other words a Nuclear war That is what Putin is banking on, the West, to coin a term, I believe, will never go to that extent, so he can freely take territory where he wishes, Crimea is a recent prime example, in the knowledge Russia and China can veto any military action against Russia All “The West” can do is what they are doing now, trying to collapse the Russian economy, which it has started doing, the Rouble has collapsed, however Putin has decreed that any foreign debt can be paid in Roubles, do international countries or companies really want to be paid in Roubles, I doubt it as their value will fall and losses around the world on the current exchange rate will be immense Russia’s international debt is somewhere north of $480 billion USD, that’s a lot of Roubles at 133 of them to 1 USD, Putin has basically just thrown a spanner at the world economy in retaliation No other countries in the non communist world can go against Russia, or China for that matter, and win with non nuclear or biological weapons except the USA backed by NATO, again I doubt it will happen Its the modern form of lessaiz-faire when Europe was dealing with Hitler in the 30’s With any luck, and that is all I believe it is at present, his popularity will fall and the Russian population will get rid of him, or someone who covets his position will and hopefully that person sees the folly of it all So, yes, what are we going to do?
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Mar 12, 2022 17:17:10 GMT 1
Post by steve h on Mar 12, 2022 17:17:10 GMT 1
Answer.....
As you are told............
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