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Post by seang14 on Jul 19, 2021 11:30:13 GMT 1
Good day All, Continuing the rebuild of my LC at the weekend, I came about refitting the Cylinder Head and was about to Torque up the Head bolts but found my old Wrench is a bit heavy duty for doing the 17lbft listed in the Haynes Manual! Where’s best place to Purchase descent quality Wrench that’ll do lowish settings???
Cheers Sean G
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Post by Chewie01 on Jul 19, 2021 12:14:16 GMT 1
You can get them cheap on ebay, but you do get what you pay for.
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Post by speedar on Jul 19, 2021 12:20:18 GMT 1
Halfords. Reasonable price and good quality.
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Post by Chewie01 on Jul 19, 2021 12:31:45 GMT 1
Halfords tools usually come with a lifetime warranty, so well worth a look.
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Post by steve63 on Jul 19, 2021 12:42:35 GMT 1
I'm surprised there isn't a "I've been working on bikes since 1912 and never needed a torque wrench" post . 100% would be if you asked this on FBook My mate joined a forum, asked a question about torque settings, got such cr@p back he just deleted his membership. Anyway, I've got a Norbar 1/2" drive. It goes up to something like 40lb/ft so is O.K. for the smaller stuff. I went out and bought a big cheap one that went up to something like 120 when I was doing my R1 engine because the clutch centre was something like 60/70. I had to buy a socket as well to fit. My thought process being that at 60lb/ft it will be accurate enough and for only one nut I didn't want to spend a lot. It might be a Clarke one and it was about £35.00 ish. The wheel nuts on the VFR are 105 so I did eventually use it again although it was 10/12 years later. I calculated it will get used about 5 more times before I snuff it
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Post by veg on Jul 19, 2021 12:54:44 GMT 1
If the question is one that has been asked numerous times eg tyres-oils etc most members just say please use the search function, mostly we have all been in the same position and most members will happily help newbies. It’s a great forum because of, not inspite of the majority. 👍
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Post by JonW on Jul 19, 2021 13:47:35 GMT 1
Im sure weve covered this off before and quite a few did say they didnt use a torque wrench lol I have something like 4 of them. The one i quite like is a digital cube thing as you can set it for all sorts and also use it to check against other wrenches as well. A pic that looks a bit like it:
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Post by chrisg on Jul 19, 2021 14:26:05 GMT 1
If the question is one that has been asked numerous times eg tyres-oils etc most members just say please use the search function, mostly we have all been in the same position and most members will happily help newbies. It’s a great forum because of, not inspite of the majority. 👍 Is this the first moderator post? Lol
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Post by Chewie01 on Jul 19, 2021 14:37:11 GMT 1
The problem I have with the digital load cell is the vertical space you need to use it. If the engine is in the bike there's no room to fit it in to set the head bolts.
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Post by mouse on Jul 19, 2021 15:02:24 GMT 1
I bought a couple of torque wrenches made by 'Teng'. Two because one does 5-25NM and the other 20-110NM, the measurement scale also shows Ftlbs and both are 3/8 drive. Bought them on ebay i think. They work really well and cover all the settings i need on the LC's
HTH Mouse
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Post by mouse on Jul 19, 2021 15:03:32 GMT 1
I bought a couple of torque wrenches made by 'Teng'. Two because one does 5-25NM and the other 20-110NM, the measurement scale also shows Ftlbs and both are 3/8 drive. Bought them on ebay i think. They work really well and cover all the settings i need on the LC's
HTH Mouse
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Post by chrisg on Jul 19, 2021 15:35:24 GMT 1
I'm surprised there isn't a "I've been working on bikes since 1912 and never needed a torque wrench" post . 100% would be if you asked this on FBook My mate joined a forum, asked a question about torque settings, got such cr@p back he just deleted his membership. Anyway, I've got a Norbar 1/2" drive. It goes up to something like 40lb/ft so is O.K. for the smaller stuff. I went out and bought a big cheap one that went up to something like 120 when I was doing my R1 engine because the clutch centre was something like 60/70. I had to buy a socket as well to fit. My thought process being that at 60lb/ft it will be accurate enough and for only one nut I didn't want to spend a lot. It might be a Clarke one and it was about £35.00 ish. The wheel nuts on the VFR are 105 so I did eventually use it again although it was 10/12 years later. I calculated it will get used about 5 more times before I snuff it There is some truth in that. If a competent guy has been spannering for many years, you do get a feel for "tightness". A torque wrench is a must for the home mechanic.
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Post by Chewie01 on Jul 19, 2021 16:15:44 GMT 1
While I would in general agree with the 'I do this for a living' argument. The counter would be to look at a production line. The fitter is doing up the same bolts day in day out but they use a single setting wrench for each thing they tighten.
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Post by steve h on Jul 19, 2021 16:29:59 GMT 1
I have tended never to bother with a tourqe wrench for "ordinary" fixings, but cyl/heads, wheel nuts, and any internal engine fixings like conrod nuts ect, always get the torque wrench... I did suggest to an employer once that the terminals on a large transformer should be torqued up to the correct setting considering just how important a job they were doing! They agreed and hired a very big torque wrench!!
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Post by chrisg on Jul 19, 2021 17:39:03 GMT 1
While I would in general agree with the 'I do this for a living' argument. The counter would be to look at a production line. The fitter is doing up the same bolts day in day out but they use a single setting wrench for each thing they tighten. I've worked in car factories for many years and the guy on the line is semi skilled and normally has his mind on what pub he's going to or is he going to get laid. Torque settings are the last thing on his mind, hence blue tooth Torque wrenches.
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Post by kirkhd on Jul 19, 2021 21:23:49 GMT 1
i've always used Norbar ones.
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jul 19, 2021 21:33:02 GMT 1
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Post by steve63 on Jul 19, 2021 22:07:15 GMT 1
I have tended never to bother with a tourqe wrench for "ordinary" fixings, but cyl/heads, wheel nuts, and any internal engine fixings like conrod nuts ect, always get the torque wrench... I did suggest to an employer once that the terminals on a large transformer should be torqued up to the correct setting considering just how important a job they were doing! They agreed and hired a very big torque wrench!! Yep, we've had a motor terminal snapped at work and it's an expensive c**k up because someone can't be bothered to go get a torque wrench. Usually things end up over tightened but my lad had a Vauxhall Corsa 1.0 litre/3 cylinder. It packed it and there was very low compression on one cylinder. We fitted a new engine and started stripping the old one. We noticed almost straight away some of the cam cap bolts were finger tight. This led to one of the cams snapping and some bent valves. It turned out a lot of the cam cap bolts had been wrongly tightened at the factory. Just shows the value of properly torqued bolts.
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