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Post by Mr M T Pockets on Jun 21, 2021 22:19:59 GMT 1
In september E10 fuel is going on sale,can it be used on older 2 stroke bikes from the 1980,s
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Post by geoffers997 on Jun 21, 2021 22:25:36 GMT 1
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Post by vectisitch on Jun 24, 2021 15:11:46 GMT 1
Esso synegie supreme 97 and 99* are Ethanol free unless your in the west country. They state they have no plans to start adding it to these fuels. I won't use anything else in my 400C
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Post by 4l04ever on Jun 24, 2021 22:14:08 GMT 1
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Post by mellow on Jun 24, 2021 22:51:32 GMT 1
Esso synegie supreme 97 and 99* are Ethanol free unless your in the west country. They state they have no plans to start adding it to these fuels. I won't use anything else in my 400C exactly this!!! it's all i use BP Ultimate AND V POWER both contain ethanol much to most peoples beliefs
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Post by earthman on Jun 25, 2021 8:42:06 GMT 1
Esso synegie supreme 97 and 99* are Ethanol free unless your in the west country. They state they have no plans to start adding it to these fuels. I won't use anything else in my 400C exactly this!!! it's all i use BP Ultimate AND V POWER both contain ethanol much to most peoples beliefs I believe that you are correct, going by the label on their pumps, they all state E5 or E10 now. I switched to using normal unleaded in my LC ages ago, no problems at all but I get through a tank full within a month at the latest. Letting this fuel sit/go off is when problems arise I feel?!
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Post by muttsnuts on Jun 25, 2021 9:23:48 GMT 1
I will be testing the new fuel all being well in Sept to see if it changes the AFR enough to cause concern, on bikes that have been marginal in the past on unleaded ethanol free, did have some issues with 5% Ethanol added and needed rejetting, but these where modified bikes, not seen any real issues to date on stock bikes, but I'll test it anyway when I get 5 mins
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Post by abar121 on Jun 25, 2021 10:07:27 GMT 1
exactly this!!! it's all i use BP Ultimate AND V POWER both contain ethanol much to most peoples beliefs I believe that you are correct, going by the label on their pumps, they all state E5 or E10 now. I switched to using normal unleaded in my LC ages ago, no problems at all but I get through a tank full within a month at the latest. Letting this fuel sit/go off is when problems arise I feel?! From the Esso FAQ: Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97 and Synergy Supreme+ 99 ) is ethanol free (Except in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland)
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Post by mellow on Jun 25, 2021 10:29:52 GMT 1
I believe that you are correct, going by the label on their pumps, they all state E5 or E10 now. I switched to using normal unleaded in my LC ages ago, no problems at all but I get through a tank full within a month at the latest. Letting this fuel sit/go off is when problems arise I feel?![/quote] Yes i believe it is if left sat it draws in moisture therefore rusting tanks. I do top up when out with other fuel as obviously there's not always an esso about, but i make sure if it's going to be left for a while it is filled with esso synergy supreme
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Post by steve h on Jun 25, 2021 13:00:44 GMT 1
I wonder if its possible for someone to invent something that can absorb water vapour inside a fuel tank? Maybe integral to the tank with a drain ability? Bit like a diesel system that separates water from diesel before the injectors. Maybe manufactures will pick up on this if E10 proves problematic in the near future.
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Post by stirling11 on Jun 25, 2021 13:38:18 GMT 1
Not sure if this will work or not on a bike, any bike, the petrol fuel tanks of boats that tend to sit unused we used to add methylated spirits to mop up any water or condensation that formed, basically a cupful for 50 litres
It didn’t seem to have any issues even with the modern E-Tec oil injected Johnson outboards we had
Might be worth a try
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 25, 2021 17:55:26 GMT 1
I wonder if its possible for someone to invent something that can absorb water vapour inside a fuel tank? Maybe integral to the tank with a drain ability? Bit like a diesel system that separates water from diesel before the injectors. Maybe manufactures will pick up on this if E10 proves problematic in the near future. As Stirling said you add meths Water doesn't mix with petrol but it is with meths which also mixes with petrol So if you add meths it all mixes together Steve
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Post by marrcel on Jun 25, 2021 19:01:40 GMT 1
I wonder if its possible for someone to invent something that can absorb water vapour inside a fuel tank? Maybe integral to the tank with a drain ability? Bit like a diesel system that separates water from diesel before the injectors. Maybe manufactures will pick up on this if E10 proves problematic in the near future. It is better to prevent coming moisture in the tank. The tank breathes. Just tape a sandwich sack on the fuel cap during winter. And use a ethanol free fuel. Test the fuel in a jar and expose it to the air. Just watch the haze.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 25, 2021 20:09:10 GMT 1
Just brim it
Less air, less expansion, contraction
30 - 50ml of 2 stroke oil in the tank usually keeps rust at bay
Steve
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Post by steve h on Jun 25, 2021 21:06:55 GMT 1
Meths? I'll have a shufty in my drinks cabinet then.
(Was thinking about the moisture absorbing property of silica gel. A pellet of this material in the air gap of the tank.... I spent all chemistry lessons looking out of the school windows so have no idea of the theory/chemistry involved.... Surely it cant be that simple?)
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