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Post by Gunny on Oct 22, 2020 16:42:00 GMT 1
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ahthud
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Post by ahthud on Oct 22, 2020 18:37:17 GMT 1
Yep, use them loads. Really rather good 👍
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Post by Gunny on Oct 22, 2020 19:30:46 GMT 1
Would the 4-6mm ones be the most common for a bike harness ?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 22, 2020 19:31:52 GMT 1
There's an easier solution
Just get better at soldering 🤣
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 22, 2020 20:02:59 GMT 1
Without taking the p1ss and being honest if a wire is tarnished or dirty it won't solder well anyway
Get some flux and use it before soldering as it cleans up the copper
It needs to be evenly heated. Melt a blob of solder onto the iron first then hold the molten solder against the joint to transfer the heat to the wire
Also remember you need a mechanical joint, not just solder.
Actually twist the wires together then solder
If not it will only be solder carrying the current and it's not that good at it
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 13:18:36 GMT 1
Yes used them lots of times, we call them Crimpless Heat Shrink Joiners
If you look at them ther should be three distinct circular bars in them the outer two are glue which makes the join water resistant and the centre one is obviously the solder
A few tricks to using them though
Strip back the wires on both sides of the join Push one joiner onto one wire, flare out the strands and push the flared ends into one another then slide the joiner onto the join so that the solder is centred on your twisted join and the glue sits on the insulation
Don’t use a naked flame, use a reflective heat shield to surround the joiner, with a heat source under it, gas powered soldering irons work quite well
Always have the join horizontal or you will wear the solder as it melts and falls out
Trial a couple first before you go live on the bike, I’ll guarantee you’ll come undone on the first one you try and do, either by too much heat that burns the heat shrink or too little that doesn’t melt the solder or the glue
They are pretty good in a marine environment too
HTH
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Post by steve h on Oct 23, 2020 17:05:23 GMT 1
I served my time in the olden days, and was taught to splice and solder conductors, on some pretty big cables too, we even soldered lugs on.. crimping tool not available to us then!! Get some gloves on whilst you are touching bare conductors as some folks have sweaty hands and its best to keep things clean. engineeringdiscoveries.com/types-of-electrical-wire-joints/Heat shrink is a boon too.
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Post by JonW on Oct 23, 2020 23:22:57 GMT 1
My brother in law swears by them, but he cant solder at all. That leaves me wondering if the joint is any good as he has no idea what hes really doing etc. Soldering isnt hard to learn, I was taught when i was 11. A good skill to learn, better than a lot of other crap school taught me lol
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Post by paulxt500 on Nov 18, 2020 11:55:29 GMT 1
Hi Gunny, I have never posted here before, but after seeing your post I decided to order some of these for myself a few weeks back. I am also awful at soldering, especially in hard-to-reach areas! I decided to take a gamble and get myself a box. I have to say, these are the most useful little things ever! I found my connections now only take a few seconds(I use a heat gun with a heat deflector nozzle to direct heat). I am just after ordering another big kit today. I signed up to their email newsletter, and got a 10% discount code, which was 'WELCOME10', just incase anyone else wants to try these out.
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Post by JonW on Nov 18, 2020 13:34:37 GMT 1
Hi Gunny, I have never posted here before, but after seeing your post I decided to order some of these for myself a few weeks back. I am also awful at soldering, especially in hard-to-reach areas! I decided to take a gamble and get myself a box. I have to say, these are the most useful little things ever! I found my connections now only take a few seconds(I use a heat gun with a heat deflector nozzle to direct heat). I am just after ordering another big kit today. I signed up to their email newsletter, and got a 10% discount code, which was 'WELCOME10', just incase anyone else wants to try these out. Welcome in Paul, I assume you have an XT500 (weve had someone with one join only recently and there are the odd one or two on here). Assume you have an LC too?
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