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Post by peddrotzr on Aug 14, 2020 7:43:49 GMT 1
This is well worth a watch. Along with fellow racer, John Dodds, he developed a motorcycle using a two-stroke outboard motor designed by Dieter König. He and the König were the first to challenge the dominance of the MV Agustas after the departure of Honda from Grand Prix competition at the end of the 1967 season. In contrast to his main competitors, Newcombe was credited with the distinction of developing, building, maintaining, and riding the König machine in competition. its in 4 parts. www.nzonscreen.com/title/love-speed-and-loss-2007 |
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Post by earthman on Aug 14, 2020 11:44:48 GMT 1
Never heard of that name to be honest, will watch it later though, anything to do with vehicles/wheels, I'm in.
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 14, 2020 11:45:56 GMT 1
I love looking at the Konig powered race machines at classic meetings.
The engines are not cheap either.
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Post by mouse on Aug 14, 2020 16:02:56 GMT 1
Nice one Johnnie, i was going to buy this DVD, love watching racing from this period.
Mouse
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Post by wassy06 on Aug 14, 2020 17:19:41 GMT 1
Vernon cooper was a horrible person
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Post by veg on Aug 14, 2020 18:01:18 GMT 1
I’m a big fan of racing up to the mid 90’s then it all gets a bit mmmwwww for me 70’s and 80’s when innovation seemed to rule roads or tracks when men had bugger grips and a fag in the gob. Grease under the nails and smelt of Castrol R .
Proper racing and no corporate bullshit.
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Post by peddrotzr on Aug 14, 2020 18:12:09 GMT 1
Vernon cooper was a horrible person He had the nickname Verminous Vernon. it might have been Barry Sheene that gave him it ? But perfectly sums him up |
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Post by veg on Aug 14, 2020 18:17:03 GMT 1
I read about it earlier post crash maybe we should put bales there. I hate these jumped eejits bloody power mad playing with peoples lives it’s a difficult sport as is without t**ts like them. Thankfully there seems far more respect these days although ezpelleta seems like it’s all about him and the riders are a commodity too much like the poison dwarf in F1.
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Post by peddrotzr on Aug 14, 2020 18:29:26 GMT 1
ezpelleta Is very similar to Cooper
As it’s all about money
A few years ago at Austria MotoGP riders complained about safety in wet conditions as the run off needs improvement !
Crutchlow has voiced the same thing again yesterday!
And looks like a wet race on Sunday.
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Post by earthman on Aug 14, 2020 19:51:40 GMT 1
ezpelleta Is very similar to Cooper As it’s all about money Yes, this comedian made a good point about people who have money are often not very nice people. |
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Post by steve h on Aug 14, 2020 21:02:28 GMT 1
Vernon cooper was a horrible person He had the nickname Verminous Vernon. it might have been Barry Sheene that gave him it ? But perfectly sums him up |
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Post by veg on Aug 14, 2020 22:35:25 GMT 1
Very insightful
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Post by reedpete on Aug 15, 2020 10:59:44 GMT 1
Two very interesting documentaries...much to reflect on.
In particular a couple of incidents would be unimaginable in a modern climate of duty of care etc
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Post by mouse on Aug 17, 2020 8:38:16 GMT 1
Both really interesting docs, especially the Kim Newcombe one, what an incredible story, nearly winning the world championship on a basically homemade bike!! But a very sad end, i see V. Cooper made an unwelcome appearance in this too. What a vile man, how on earth was he allowed to run the ACU like that!!
Thanks for posting
Mouse
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Post by veg on Aug 17, 2020 9:09:24 GMT 1
I met Gary Thompson quite a few times always found him to be very helpful seems like a nice bloke ( mind the power dynamics were a bit different).
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Post by Jethro5 on Aug 17, 2020 14:06:09 GMT 1
Enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.
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Post by tonyd123 on Nov 9, 2021 11:03:28 GMT 1
Just watched both of these, it is amazing how little respect the ACU had for the riders. Thank goodness we have people like Stuart Higgs in charge now, who actually likes racing.
Kim Newcombe, what an amazing story, and one that I didn't know about. A man beating the MV's in 1972 on a bike with a 4 cylinder 2-stroke boat engine, brilliant!
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