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Post by skilpadda on Aug 11, 2020 22:04:41 GMT 1
As i understand there are some Triumph front calipers that will bolt straight on the stock forks, but are there any others out there that are a straight fit....?
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Post by JonW on Aug 12, 2020 0:41:45 GMT 1
yes the Nissins the Triumphs are based on and the Sumitomos from the FZR400 (I think)
Triumph info on my website under 'upgrades'
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Post by mak595 on Aug 12, 2020 9:44:50 GMT 1
Make sure you check out Jonw's site as there are 2 tyres of truimph calipers and only one type fit....
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 12, 2020 11:03:36 GMT 1
Tell me about it 🙄
Took a gamble on a mint but cheap pair from the states and they are the wrong ones
On a more positive note if the 5 years standing still has knackered my 6 pots they may go on there 🤔
Steve
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Post by skilpadda on Aug 12, 2020 11:52:26 GMT 1
yes the Nissins the Triumphs are based on and the Sumitomos from the FZR400 (I think) Triumph info on my website under 'upgrades' Very good info thank you. Does any other bikes use the nissins with 83 mm bolt spacing with the nissin logo rather than the triumph logo...? |
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Post by mannanan on Aug 12, 2020 19:09:54 GMT 1
I would be interested in the answer to that question. I recently fitted the Triumph ones to my F2 and they are a massive improvement. I would have liked a pair of Sumitomos or ones with a Nissin logo as it just doesn’t look quite right to me with a Triumph logo. Didn’t quite know which ones had 83mm centres. Some Sumitomos allegedly off an FZR400 are advertised on eBay as 100mm centres so I am confused. If no one knows, perhaps Jonw will take up the research challenge and update his website for us!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 12, 2020 20:42:06 GMT 1
Most people just get the triumph logo machined off
Steve
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Post by mick858 on Aug 12, 2020 20:52:31 GMT 1
Most people just get the triumph logo machined off Steve Or it's easy enough to just file the logo off. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 12, 2020 20:54:52 GMT 1
Most people just get the triumph logo machined off Steve Or it's easy enough to just file the logo off. It's just alloy so should come off with a b*****d file then wet and dry Steve |
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2020 0:26:30 GMT 1
Yep file and wet n dry it off if you hate it. Its just a brand name tho, no diff to Tokico or Nissin or even Brembo tho and they brand most of their work etc. Ive never bothered researching the Sumitomos as they are old now and the Triumphs were current and in much better condition. The Nissins were harder to find than the Triumphs as well... I went for the ones you could find and were usually usable when they arrived to keep costs down.  |
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Post by freddie19 on Aug 13, 2020 0:50:44 GMT 1
I would be interested in the answer to that question. I recently fitted the Triumph ones to my F2 and they are a massive improvement. I would have liked a pair of Sumitomos or ones with a Nissin logo as it just doesn’t look quite right to me with a Triumph logo. Didn’t quite know which ones had 83mm centres. Some Sumitomos allegedly off an FZR400 are advertised on eBay as 100mm centres so I am confused. If no one knows, perhaps Jonw will take up the research challenge and update his website for us! Yeah, the sumitomo ones from FZR400R 3TJ are definitely 83mm centres. I've got a pair I bought years ago and still haven't got round to fitting them.😩 Also got a pair of FZR250 calipers, also 83mm centres that will fit. And..... also got a pair of absolutely mint FZR600 calipers, pads, hoses and union and they are the 100mm centres, perfect for someone looking to do a concourse restoration.😁 OMG......why do I keep buying all these bits. No wonder I can't move in my fookin' garage!😂 |
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2020 1:21:17 GMT 1
Haha, I have the same issue. I see shiny things and out comes my wallet (well my paypal details... LOL)!
Feel free to send pics of the calipers you have that fit and I'll update the Triumph page if you like Freddie? Do you know which 250 they were off as there were a few models of that as well I think, I assume 3LN as thats the one with twin disks? I am no FZR expert....
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Post by freddie19 on Aug 13, 2020 2:48:17 GMT 1
Hi Jon, good to know it's not only me that keeps buying all this old toot!😂
3LN sounds right for the FZR250 calipers, definitely twin discs, 288mm if I remember correctly ( got them tucked away somewhere as well), but man I bought them years ago!
Will try to post some pics if I can figure it out on this forum, seems a lot more complicated than on other forums I use but......it's probably just me, I'm an old git!!!😩😁😂
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2020 4:01:41 GMT 1
Thinking about it I should really find someone who knows the FZRs to say for sure if people want the info on the site. I dont want to provide half truths and cause anyone to buy the wrong parts. The info I have on there is often hard won. I also bought the wrong Triumph calipers first after forum posts back in the day that suggested the wrong models, hence why i created the page as it was definite info that would save guys money and time, both grave mistakes.
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Post by stasky on Aug 13, 2020 10:55:41 GMT 1
all pre diversion yamahas are 83mm,but are standard 2 pot sumitomos with 43mm pistons,as said above,all 4 pots that fit are a major improvement,as for the triumph emblem on the triumph calipers,its a 5 minute job each caliper with the right tools,to scrub that logo flat,and have a plain alloy face,the nissin + triumph calipers are also anodised inside the seal recess,which helps stopping the corrosion build up behind the seals,they should go for years without service,unlike tokicos,although ,i have still seen some badly neglected ones
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Post by JonW on Aug 13, 2020 13:40:34 GMT 1
There are 83mm 4 pot sumitomos tho, thats what I thought some FZRs had?
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Post by stasky on Aug 13, 2020 16:59:29 GMT 1
There are 83mm 4 pot sumitomos tho, thats what I thought some FZRs had? yes the fzr400 3tj model only,and fzr250,dunno what model tho,dont quote me on that either,one of the tzr250 imports are 83mm 4 pots as well im sure,600 + 1000 fzr are 100mm |
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Post by JonW on Aug 14, 2020 0:19:31 GMT 1
Hmm. Yeah, this is the problem. I'm uncomfortable adding info thats not tested and I don't have the money or time to buy a bunch more calipers of a type I dont want just to write that bit up. It's a minefield and I don't want to get blamed for something being wrong when the info didn't originate with me.
Let's just stick with the Triumph info, it works. I spent the money to get the right and wrong ones and worked out how to tell them apart etc. The info has proven to be foolproof I'd say, people have been using the article to buy them for 5+ years with success often reported on here.
Of course anyone wants to publish their own FZR etc info should do so, I just don't think it's for me to do.
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