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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 24, 2020 21:32:43 GMT 1
Had a problem setting up a clutch recently so thought I'd buy a gen Yamaha cable to see if that helped. Long story short, it made matters worse, in fact I couldn't set it up at all with the new cable. When I compared to the one fitted, i noticed that this new one is about 6-7mm longer. I've no idea if the one fitted is a genuine one or not as came with the bike. Has anyone got a stock cable laying around and happy to measure the free cable length as below?  This new gen Yam one is around 132mm from end of sheath to end of nipple when fully extended. The one fitted to the bike is around 125-126mm. I've put the old one back on and have managed to get a decent set up. Strange! Thanks. |
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Post by 4l04ever on Mar 24, 2020 23:11:50 GMT 1
Is your ball missing or the wrong size???
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 24, 2020 23:41:09 GMT 1
My girlfriend says they are both perfect thanks. Her sister agrees! ha ha
I didn't remove the clutch push rod to check the ball, but as the engine was rebuilt by top engine man, I'm sure its fine in that respect. I know what your saying and could be a possibility that I may still have to check.
I now seem to have been able to set up the clutch fine with the original shorter cable (may or may not be a gen one?), but I have some doubts about the so called new genuine one.
I struggled to get reasonable tension with it even when connecting the cable to the hand lever and the removed side casing/internal lever assembly with the so called genuine cable, hence my question relating to cable length. My experience is that when its connected up it pulls up on the internal lever and spring, but this was saggy!
I'm hoping someone can check cable length to set my mind at rest. Thanks.
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Post by oldelsieboy on Mar 25, 2020 10:27:36 GMT 1
New OEM clutch cable purchased from Fowlers last week.   OEB |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 25, 2020 12:30:19 GMT 1
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Post by beardy on Mar 25, 2020 12:53:18 GMT 1
Through my experiences with buying genuine from fleabay.
I now buy genuine from Fowler’s etc.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 25, 2020 14:28:47 GMT 1
This is a big problem now
The 29l clutch cable is long NLA but the occasional NOS one turns up so no option of buying from a dealer
The last 2 I've bought are questionable
The first was from Japan and was in a Genuine bag but the cable does not have the black Teflon sleeve on the inner cable
The second has the sleeve but it looks slightly different at the spring outer
Both are marked on the outer as per the genuine cable
Steve
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 25, 2020 14:45:42 GMT 1
This is a big problem now The 29l clutch cable is long NLA but the occasional NOS one turns up so no option of buying from a dealer The last 2 I've bought are questionable The first was from Japan and was in a Genuine bag but the cable does not have the black Teflon sleeve on the inner cable The second has the sleeve but it looks slightly different at the spring outer Both are marked on the outer as per the genuine cable Steve Steve - this 4L0 one was similar. came in bag with correct looking Yamaha label and bar code. Out cable sleeve is marked with the full 4L0 part number. Looks the part. If the copiers go to all that trouble, why can't they get the cable and sleeve lengths correct? |
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Post by peter007 on Mar 25, 2020 19:29:49 GMT 1
Now I’ve read this Thread I’m fairly sure I was sold a copy 4lo throttle cable supposedly being genuine too also in a gen bag with labels and correct markings. I still couldn’t get the oil pump set as it should and so I mentioned it to the seller but got fobbed off with” I’ve had no other complaints and sold loads “ so I’m£100 down and will be having to spend another with Fowler’s!!☹️Unless norbo gets some made . I have asked on here just like you have what the correct length of free cable at carb’s and oil pump should be but nobody seemed interested as I have a cable manufacturer here in Ellesmere Port who will make some for us at a very reasonable cost too. So if anyone has one to measure it would be great to hear from you . He could also make the clutch ones too ? Anyone ? Cheers Pete😀
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Post by copper99 on Mar 25, 2020 20:57:35 GMT 1
LC Kev(redbimota here I think?) sells used but mint SH genuine cables, bought and fitted a clutch cable I got from him at the stafford show a few weeks back, he charged £5 for them.
Maybe worth a PM..
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Post by lukey1965 on Mar 25, 2020 21:06:22 GMT 1
Have one sitting in the garage from the same seller !! Will check the measurement in the morning, nothing better to do !! |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 25, 2020 22:04:32 GMT 1
Post up the dimension once you do please lukey.
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Post by lukey1965 on Mar 25, 2020 22:06:52 GMT 1
Post up the dimension once you do please lukey. Will do. |
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Post by lukey1965 on Mar 26, 2020 16:16:19 GMT 1
Post up the dimension once you do please lukey. The measurement is 130mm (approx). Same as yours I believe. |
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Post by oldelsieboy on Mar 26, 2020 17:22:17 GMT 1
Now I’ve read this Thread I’m fairly sure I was sold a copy 4lo throttle cable supposedly being genuine too also in a gen bag with labels and correct markings. I still couldn’t get the oil pump set as it should and so I mentioned it to the seller but got fobbed off with” I’ve had no other complaints and sold loads “ so I’m£100 down and will be having to spend another with Fowler’s!!☹️Unless norbo gets some made . I have asked on here just like you have what the correct length of free cable at carb’s and oil pump should be but nobody seemed interested as I have a cable manufacturer here in Ellesmere Port who will make some for us at a very reasonable cost too. So if anyone has one to measure it would be great to hear from you . He could also make the clutch ones too ? Anyone ? Cheers Pete😀 Free length of oil pump cable   OEB |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 26, 2020 19:28:01 GMT 1
Post up the dimension once you do please lukey. The measurement is 130mm (approx). Same as yours I believe. You could always put a knot in it! Lol I've sent mine back for a refund. |
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Post by lukey1965 on Mar 26, 2020 20:12:09 GMT 1
The measurement is 130mm (approx). Same as yours I believe. You could always put a knot in it! Lol I've sent mine back for a refund. Unfortunately, bought a month ago. Only accept returns for 14 days. Have emailed explaining the situation. I'll see what happens.... |
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Post by peter007 on Mar 27, 2020 12:23:52 GMT 1
Thanks for that OEB could you possibly measure the length of the carb cables to ? I take it that is also a genuine cable to ? Cheers Pete 😀
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