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Post by nokturnal on Nov 6, 2018 14:36:22 GMT 1
Wondering if anyone has any pics of their under-the-tank setup? For example, where to put the CDI/fuse/servo. I am assuming you lose the airbox (anyone run without the top half?), and a plate needs to be fabricated...
thanks a lot!
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Post by dusty350 on Nov 6, 2018 21:19:51 GMT 1
Hi Depending on your set up, I would try and keep the airbox if you can. The first Lc hybrid I built couldn't use an airbox anyway, as a previous owner had fitted a Ypvs style upright shock, and there was no room for the main airbox, and had to run pod filters. This made it easy to site the pv gubbins under the tank on some ally plate;  Hybrid rebuild pics (95) by David Miller, on Flickr This was the first fit. It ended up with the other pv components piggy backing on the top of the CDI. All worked well. On my hybrid I was able to keep the airbox so the pv boxes wont fit under the tank. And because I recessed the rear light, I couldn't fit them in the tail which is probably your best option if you leave the rear light standard. So the only place I could fit them is in place of the oil tank;  20170915_171206 by David Miller, on Flickr This is far from ideal as you end up going premix. This has stalled me finishing the orange Lc so far. Ideally I want to re instate the oil pump and tank. Changing to a combined Zeel box will mean 1 less box to find a home for. I would look at homing it all in the tail if you have the room and just extending the wiring  Dusty  |
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Post by nokturnal on Nov 7, 2018 18:33:33 GMT 1
thanks for that. informative pics. I hate wiring and didn't want to mess about too much with with. It seems I may need to choose between wiring and gas mileage though...
I am on premix now, and would like to avoid that if possible.
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Post by dusty350 on Nov 7, 2018 19:36:25 GMT 1
Extending wiring to the tail has been done lots by hybrid owners, so no problem doing it from an operational point of view, but a recessed rear light will leave little room so you'll need to consider that. Dusty |
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Post by bare on Nov 11, 2018 18:41:27 GMT 1
Fit my Zeel bits into the tail section... Lotsa room there as the modules are actually quite small.
NO wiring mods to the Stock LC loom needed.
Although a 5 wire DIY mini harness(cable ?) needs snake from the (PV?) Zeel to the headstock area mounted Servo.
Pretty well a straight run... so a no brainer to fit.
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Post by JonW on Nov 12, 2018 22:23:56 GMT 1
Extending wiring to the tail has been done lots by hybrid owners, so no problem doing it from an operational point of view, but a recessed rear light will leave little room so you'll need to consider that. Dusty Depends on how you recess the light I think, I have OEBs kit and Ive got my Zeel and my Fan relay/controller in there on my hybrid. Dont forget you can use the OEM CDI point for one box and then youve only got one box to find a space for, thats what I plan to do with my 251LC. |
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Post by dusty350 on Nov 12, 2018 22:52:17 GMT 1
Hi Jon I tried everything with the standard Pv boxes, and nothing was straightforward. I think a combined Zeel will help, and I may have to move the rear light out a bit more, but I would really like to reinstate the oil tank and pump if I can. Dusty |
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Post by nokturnal on Nov 13, 2018 0:42:06 GMT 1
I am thinking of trying both the CDI and the YPVS controller in the battery box area and just extending the battery lines to the tail. I run a small lithium that I think will fit.
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Post by bare on Nov 13, 2018 5:01:45 GMT 1
Zeel boxes are less than 2" square and ~3/4" thick.
You can fit them into a space that would hold a cigarette package.
into the behind the seat space.. even if you stuffed the tail light up to your fundamental orifice :-).
Without need to extend ANY oem loom wires
Small reason to overthink Or complicate a Very Simple fitment.
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Post by JonW on Nov 13, 2018 21:46:14 GMT 1
Small reason to overthink Or complicate a Very Simple fitment. Unless you dont have a Zeel... |
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Post by nokturnal on Nov 15, 2018 12:53:37 GMT 1
which I don't
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Post by JonW on Nov 15, 2018 12:57:56 GMT 1
Thats why i said it Dana. |
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Post by bare on Nov 27, 2018 4:20:36 GMT 1
Splurge onna Zeel you get reliability and tunability. Oem units are often just waiting to die. |
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Post by nokturnal on Nov 30, 2018 17:59:19 GMT 1
this is a budget build... i ride on the street so little. I spend the $ on my track bikes and dirt bike.
so far I have 1600 into it, and that's with new tires and lithium battery.
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Post by nokturnal on Dec 2, 2018 14:02:54 GMT 1
where does everyone bolt the servo? under the coil I assume
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 2, 2018 14:21:16 GMT 1
where does everyone bolt the servo? under the coil I assume I'm looking at this just now Under the coil is the popular place but as I'm not using an airbox I'm experimenting with behind the battery box or under the tank where the upper airbox sits Steve |
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Post by nokturnal on Dec 2, 2018 22:56:34 GMT 1
Anyone have a pic of the under coil bracket?
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 3, 2018 8:30:10 GMT 1
I made a bracket out of some "L" section steel, pre drilled it and got it welded in;  DSCN3918 by David Miller, on Flickr You can make a bolt in version that mounts where the ignition coil mounts to. Dusty |
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Post by veg on Dec 3, 2018 14:11:51 GMT 1
I had a bracket that bolted to the coil as dusty says, then drops it below I bought it from the old forum someone used to make them, i will look and see if i can find a pic of it. i mounted everything else in the tail and extended the wiring.
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Post by nokturnal on Dec 3, 2018 18:43:19 GMT 1
Awesome. Thanks!
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Post by nokturnal on Dec 3, 2018 18:44:28 GMT 1
I made a bracket out of some "L" section steel, pre drilled it and got it welded in; DSCN3918 by David Miller, on Flickr You can make a bolt in version that mounts where the ignition coil mounts to. Dusty That would be ideal... think I’ll be going the bolt on route tho.. |
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Post by JonW on Dec 10, 2018 12:34:30 GMT 1
I made mine with captive nuts, a lot less fiddly:  |
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Post by nokturnal on Dec 12, 2018 17:56:06 GMT 1
you chop that off an RZ? |
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Post by JonW on Dec 12, 2018 23:32:52 GMT 1
Lol, no I made it, just traced round an RZ one and the cut it out with a saw and some files, then welded the nuts on the back before welding to the bike.
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Post by nokturnal on Mar 30, 2019 16:28:54 GMT 1
Before I start cutting... is the LC ignition switch plug and play with a 1UA harness? Looks like the LC has an extra wire.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 30, 2019 17:10:56 GMT 1
Before I start cutting... is the LC ignition switch plug and play with a 1UA harness? Looks like the LC has an extra wire. 1ua loom has the iggy switch connector under the tank instead of in the headlight bowl so wires may be too short Also 1ua loom has no flexy loop to bend at the headstock They both have 6 wires but the kill switch wire on the 1ua is not in the multi block but on a separate bullet. Easy to make up a wire to connect from the loose bullet and back into the multi connector Steve |
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Post by nokturnal on Apr 1, 2019 16:43:23 GMT 1
I have heard the 1UA is longer too... don't remember that from my last one. Would help as I am about a foot short...
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