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Post by richclarke on Oct 23, 2018 11:19:35 GMT 1
I’m thinking of investing in a set of Gibson expansion chambers.Before I go and spend £600, I thought I’d ask for opinions from those properly in ‘the know’.
Are these decent quality in terms of build, fit and performance?
Will I need to make any modifications such as rejetting or centre stand removal?
Am I better off just replacing the damaged (it’s split and I’ve no idea how!!) right hand pipe with another standard one on an otherwise completely standard, matching numbers 1980 350LC?
Decisions decisions...
Rich
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Post by sp1john on Oct 23, 2018 11:32:58 GMT 1
hi rich a friend has just received a set and went for the black chrome ones... apparently they are no longer doing the black chrome.. I belive they are using the same press tools from way back in the 80's.. regarding the jetting I would go up a couple and do plug chops to see were you are.. |
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Post by Dangerous on Oct 23, 2018 12:13:54 GMT 1
Hi Rich got them on mine. Great sound and built well.😁😁😁
Mines got carbon end cans, i would like to try stainless ones to compare to sound difference, so if anyones got a pair floating about in good condition feel free to pm me.
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Post by rigga on Oct 23, 2018 14:04:27 GMT 1
Got some on mine, and whilst I'm happy with them, if I was looking for some pipes I'd give my money to someone else
Waiting time is atrocious, but once they arrive that's forgotten, they look the biz, and very old school cool, allspeed were a favorite back in the day, and they still look and sound great, and fit extremely well BUT, things have moved on a great deal from those days in design of pipes, Gibson's and allspeeds are and never were a power pipe, if your looking for a big performance gain, then nope not these, TSA will do that for you, want a midrange monster, pipes developed by mutts on here for that, things have moved on .
Did I say they look the nuts tho.
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Post by richclarke on Oct 23, 2018 15:12:20 GMT 1
Got some on mine, and whilst I'm happy with them, if I was looking for some pipes I'd give my money to someone else Waiting time is atrocious, but once they arrive that's forgotten, they look the biz, and very old school cool, allspeed were a favorite back in the day, and they still look and sound great, and fit extremely well BUT, things have moved on a great deal from those days in design of pipes, Gibson's and allspeeds are and never were a power pipe, if your looking for a big performance gain, then nope not these, TSA will do that for you, want a midrange monster, pipes developed by mutts on here for that, things have moved on . Did I say they look the nuts tho. Thanks Rigga Yep the wait time is 4 months 😳. I’m happy with old skool cool so I’ve ordered a set. With small cans obvs. Cheers Rich |
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Post by richclarke on Oct 23, 2018 15:13:21 GMT 1
Hi Rich got them on mine. Great sound and built well.😁😁😁 Mines got carbon end cans, i would like to try stainless ones to compare to sound difference, so if anyones got a pair floating about in good condition feel free to pm me. Thanks for the info |
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Post by jessy03 on Oct 23, 2018 15:13:30 GMT 1
They quoted me 10-12 weeks which turned out to be 10-12 months, i’d Give my money to someone else, TSA or Mutts
Jess
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Post by richclarke on Oct 23, 2018 15:13:50 GMT 1
hi rich a friend has just received a set and went for the black chrome ones... apparently they are no longer doing the black chrome.. I belive they are using the same press tools from way back in the 80's.. regarding the jetting I would go up a couple and do plug chops to see were you are.. Thanks John |
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 23, 2018 15:54:42 GMT 1
I've had a couple of Lc's with small can Allspeed/Gibsons. As said, they are not known for a huge increase in power like some pipes. You may see some gain, but nothing like Tsa's or Mutts' pipes. For most guys who choose Gibsons, it's about the look and the sound as opposed to performance, and for me, there is no better looking pipe for an Lc than small can Gibson/Allspeeds. Dusty  |
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Post by rigga on Oct 23, 2018 16:09:16 GMT 1
All the above is true, decide what you want from the bike, then choose accordingly. Youll be happy with the Gibson's if that's your choice.
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Post by mikee on Oct 23, 2018 21:17:30 GMT 1
I like allspeeds , a classic lc exhaust , but mine are about 5 years old , and they have broken where the baffle goes into the rear taper , on both sides Probably internal corrosion aided with vibration The bloke on the phone at allspeed was somewhat dis-interested to say the least Get mutts , tyga or tsa pipes I’d say Tho if you want allspeed style lomas and higspeed do them A pic just because  Mike |
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Post by badger1 on Oct 24, 2018 7:21:26 GMT 1
I had Gibson’s. Fitted well but from day one I wasn’t happy with the quality of the chrome. 3 yrs on and the chrome is now starting to pit and flake off in places. Iv changed them now but if I was going to get another set I would arrange to have them chromed myself.
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 24, 2018 9:19:53 GMT 1
I was in the market this year to buy new pipes for the Lc I'm building currently. There are probably more makes and types of pipes available for our bikes now than ever before - we are very lucky in that respect - and of course, the internet has made sourcing pipes from foreign manufacturers even easier. As much as I love small can Allspeed/Gibsons, my choice for this bike was with Muttsnuts' all round performance pipes, in stainless, with detachable 6" ally cans;  20180901_184720 by David Miller, on Flickr Excellent quality, super light (Allspeeds are a heavier pipe) and great value, and turnaround time is normally about a week I believe !!  I also have stainless Tsa pipes on my other bike, again with 6" cans, and I think they look awesome too;  20180217_111701 by David Miller, on Flickr But the Lc I sold this year had the Allspeed/Gisons, which looked lovely too;  20180130_135926 by David Miller, on Flickr And a vid on the phone will never do them full justice, but here is one anyway;  20171109_104443 by David Miller, on Flickr Dusty |
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Post by rigga on Oct 24, 2018 12:53:16 GMT 1
Bike porn right there ^^^^^^^
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Post by Tobyjugs on Oct 24, 2018 16:17:00 GMT 1
That red and white one does it for me.
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Post by madmick on Oct 24, 2018 17:41:33 GMT 1
WOW!! LOOOOVE THE BURNT ORANGE ONE.😍😍
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Post by bare on Oct 25, 2018 2:58:48 GMT 1
Go for TSA pipes.
The No speeds are only slightly better than Factory yama pipes.
Which wouldn't be an issue IF?? the no speeds were 100 gbps. which they apparently are Not.
That's 500 GBPs of foregone Beer money IMO.
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 25, 2018 8:07:13 GMT 1
If performance isn't your main concern, then looks/fit/quality is probably more important. I don't think anyone fits Allspeeds for a massive power gain. It's more about looks and nostalgia - guys like to fit what they had "back in the day", and the fact the Allspeeds are still the same pipe, that's good enough for most. But, that design is getting on for 40 years old, so "modern" designs are gonna make more power of course, and in the ranges you need it on the road. Allspeeds will fit straight on, keeping your centre stand, will be a be lighter than standard pipes and give a bit more performance. You "usually" don't need to upjet, but always worth checking fuelling after changes of course. The ones I've had have always had good chrome, but as others have reported problems I would be wary now. Maybe you could get them made in stainless ? No chrome issues ! These were made from marine grade stainless;  DSCN1124 by David Miller, on Flickr I loved the Allspeeds look - especially the way they swept under the engine and then out under the pegs. Plus they were fairly short so suited the Lc imo. But either Mutts' or Tsa's do the same, and you can specify a short can if you wish, and they will do stainless, no problem  Dusty |
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Post by richclarke on Oct 25, 2018 8:17:50 GMT 1
They quoted me 10-12 weeks which turned out to be 10-12 months, i’d Give my money to someone else, TSA or Mutts Jess How long ago was your experience of Gibson Jess? |
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Post by richclarke on Oct 25, 2018 8:33:01 GMT 1
I did look at Kenny’s website for the TSA expansion chambers but the website isn’t functioning so I presume he’s no longer trading.
I also looked at Mutts site and although he lists expansion chambers for the YPVS, I couldn’t see any listing for 350LCs.
Cheers
Rich
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 25, 2018 8:43:37 GMT 1
The first pipes I pictured are for the Lc. Mutts is a member on here, as is Kenny - TSA. You can pm either of them through the forum Dusty |
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Post by tsa on Oct 25, 2018 9:41:57 GMT 1
Im still going lol
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Post by jessy03 on Oct 25, 2018 9:58:04 GMT 1
They quoted me 10-12 weeks which turned out to be 10-12 months, i’d Give my money to someone else, TSA or Mutts Jess How long ago was your experience of Gibson Jess? With in the last 12 months, I wanted the old school look But got peed off waiting, when I chased them it was You’re on the list! So spoke to Kenny who had a set ready. If you’re quoted 10-12 weeks you could push it to 13-14 weeks not 10 months! I’ve used TSA and Performace Fabrications before with out issues, just booked it in and sorted. I’m sure the same can be said for Mutts pipes. Jess |
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Post by Dieseldog on Oct 25, 2018 12:36:54 GMT 1
Could also try Mick Abbey in Teesside  |
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Post by ozzysbikes on Oct 25, 2018 21:00:48 GMT 1
anyone got Mick Abbey,s number ? I am told that it is best to ring him if you want anything from him ?
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Post by Dieseldog on Oct 25, 2018 21:06:23 GMT 1
anyone got Mick Abbey,s number ? I am told that it is best to ring him if you want anything from him ? Hope you've got inclusive minutes on your phone, he can talk forever 😊 07802896103 |
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Post by barney on Oct 25, 2018 22:24:35 GMT 1
Picked these up today from Kenny TSA Lovely pipes  |
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Post by wallcraft on Oct 25, 2018 23:16:23 GMT 1
Very nice, what are they going on, they look different to his usual street pipes are they Mid-range specific or more top end?
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Post by barney on Oct 26, 2018 6:54:49 GMT 1
Very nice, what are they going on, they look different to his usual street pipes are they Mid-range specific or more top end? There mid range which are going on my 4lo rebuild 👍 |
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 26, 2018 10:08:46 GMT 1
They look lovely So many choices nowadays, and pipes that work, as well as look, great Dusty |
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