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Dec 28, 2017 13:24:09 GMT 1
Post by earthman on Dec 28, 2017 13:24:09 GMT 1
I had around 16 bikes in my opinion most are collectable 98 r1 (white/red seat) SP1 3xv/3ma 350lc and 250lc two rg500 ducati 916 sp3 to name a few, and they all get rode not parked up in a bubble, but now have decided to sell a few , the ducati has gone my rgv went a few weeks and one of my rg500,s went last week, nice to have a investment but I was worried about having all my eggs in one basket, so have decided now to buy a small house/flat as I investment instead.
trouble is as they are wittling down its gets harder
Which bike have/do you ride the most? Keep that one
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Dec 28, 2017 13:38:07 GMT 1
Post by fozzy17 on Dec 28, 2017 13:38:07 GMT 1
I ride all of them I wish it was that easy, I ride the most my bmw f800 gs but that's because its my hack I hoon around on..
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Dec 28, 2017 14:40:56 GMT 1
Post by earthman on Dec 28, 2017 14:40:56 GMT 1
I ride all of them I wish it was that easy, I ride the most my bmw f800 gs but that's because its my hack I hoon around on.. Maybe in the order of actual enjoyment then? I'd like to own an RG500 I think but apart from the high purchase price, the riding position would cause me pain in no time. Maybe comfort for you could be a factor in helping to decide??
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Dec 28, 2017 14:56:22 GMT 1
Post by LC_BOTT on Dec 28, 2017 14:56:22 GMT 1
I'd like to own an RG500 I think but apart from the high purchase price, the riding position would cause me pain in no time. Maybe comfort for you could be a factor in helping to decide?? I think you'd be surprised, they feel like a normal road bike rather that a modern sports bike, suppose that's 30 years of progress/racing.
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Dec 28, 2017 15:09:39 GMT 1
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Post by fozzy17 on Dec 28, 2017 15:09:39 GMT 1
As above the rg500 is pretty good comfort wise, no worse than a lc
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Dec 28, 2017 15:35:54 GMT 1
Post by copper99 on Dec 28, 2017 15:35:54 GMT 1
The prices have risen for both the bikes and parts mainly due to supply and demand, more people want to own the bikes and parts than there are available to buy, especially the rarer items, hoarding has an impact but not a large one. From what I've seen over the last few months, the bikes and parts with outlandish prices just don't sell, they keep coming back as a new listing. Sure, some items will be bought by museums/wealthy collectors but the majority of people searching for LC stuff are normal working class folk I would have thought? Either these sellers are hoping that that wealthy person comes along or they don't really want to sell in the first place?? Your right mate, many do come round again, look closer and you'll see the majority from the likes of dealers totally taking the piss(like the £10,000 YPVS) but in the last couple of years especially LCs are selling for very strong money. As I often say, dont focus your values on just eBay, there are plenty of places bikes sell outside eBay and many a middle aged fart doesnt like eBay or even the internet. Working class or not, everyone buys bikes, a new superbike now is around 15-20k and even a middleweight bike is LC money, problem is we remember them as bikes with a value of a few hundred quid, not several thousand....and have you seen what the working class folks motors of the 1970s and 80s are now fetching, I wish id held onto some Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts...bikes like LCs are still cheap in comparison. Are you any nearer to buying one yet?
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Dec 29, 2017 11:17:06 GMT 1
Post by jon on Dec 29, 2017 11:17:06 GMT 1
Matching numbers or not Jon? As close to original condition as possible if reverted to standard? You know what's worth more value wise . Hi rigga, It’s not matching numbers, but is a UK bike. It was a 250 which has been converted to 350. Therefore it’s not going to command the higher value if put back to standard. However, I think it will be more likely to sell as a standard bike and cheaper too. Jon
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 29, 2017 12:08:16 GMT 1
Hi The question of "values" is often discussed, and I think it's hard to say, with any certaincy what the future will bring regards their value. When you dig out old motorcycle mags and look at the classifieds, the prices of Lc's and Pv's back in the 90's, were so low ! They were 10 year old bikes at that point and youngsters wanted Kr1s' Rgv's, Nsr's and Rg's ! And who could blame them. They mirrored the race bikes of the time and offered performance and handling that would embarrass much larger bikes, and made our bikes look ancient in comparison. I think our "Universe" has come together in a unique way to bring us to where we are today. The popularity of the bikes when they were new - most could afford them one way or another, easily tuned, easily fixed, easily modified, great performance for their time -made them a real cult bike !! Even had a televised race series for them !! I imagine most guys here are of a certain age - the vast majority are probably mid 40's and older, so I imagine most of us did the job, mortgage and kids at around the same sort of time, I know from my experience that there was at least 10 years when I didn't ride bikes. Doing up the house and being a Dad meant bikes were at the bottom of the list - although I did have projects that took forever to finish due to lack of funds. But kids grow - the missus goes back to work, and you start to get back into bikes. Nostalgia plays a massive part in your life as you get older, and we find ourselves hankering after the bikes we had at the sweetest times of our lives. Having an Lc/Pv reminds us of that time, plus they are still brilliant bikes in their own right. The aftermarket parts industry is arguably better now than it's ever been, it's still possible to build a standard concourse bike or a stunning hybrid, you can get most engine parts NOS, next day delivery, and specialists that have vast knowledge and abilities to keep them running better than ever. All in all, it means the popularity of these iconic models is stronger than ever The down side of that though is that prices of bikes and spares is high. Ebay is guilty to a certain extent. People watch prices, and if something sells for a high price that sets a benchmark. Before you know it prices have spiralled - they certainly have in the last 5 years. I bought a good, complete, low mileage F2 pv engine, with carbs, 5 years ago and paid £325 which was the going rate. That's a grand now easily. Prices of 350 wheels went mental for a time. At the moment it's horn brackets for the 350 Lc. 31k carbs were the same - you could buy a good set for £80. Then a set on ebay sells for £150 and all of a sudden that's what they are fetching. Guys desperate to get a bike after years away, or after parts to finish their build may feel they have no option than to pay these prices. And, after all these years of grafting, being Dad, making ends meet etc etc, we deserve an Lc in our life don't we ?? and can now probably afford one' so we pay the money coz that's what you have to do ! This keeps demand high, and prices higher ! Our generation of Lc/Pv addicts is relatively small. The Lc had only a couple of years to leave it's mark. The Pv had longer but later models had stiff competition from a new generation of strokers. Bike technology was moving really fast by the mid 80's. I'm not sure the Rg/Kr1 fans will "get" the Lc vibe like we did, and maybe the cult of Lc will die with us ? Alternatively, it could live on like the old British bikes have done. One thing is for sure though. The ridiculous prices for bikes and parts doesn't do any of us enthusiasts any favours. I've got someone desperate to buy my Lc hybrid, and will pay me what it owes me. Sounds great ?? I would only go and build another the same probably, and that would end up costing me more money, coz of rising prices ! I personally think the bubble will burst one day, but I think that day is still a fair way off. Dusty
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Dec 29, 2017 12:15:22 GMT 1
Post by liffy16 on Dec 29, 2017 12:15:22 GMT 1
Matching numbers or not Jon? As close to original condition as possible if reverted to standard? You know what's worth more value wise . Hi rigga, It’s not matching numbers, but is a UK bike. It was a 250 which has been converted to 350. Therefore it’s not going to command the higher value if put back to standard. However, I think it will be more likely to sell as a standard bike and cheaper too. Jon Think any rideable 350lc is worth 3-4k non matching as long as its sorted and rides good!I've got two powervalves and an lc prefer the valves to be honest as there a bit quicker but they all get ridden hard,if anything to find what needs sorting out heating issues,soft forks ,slipping clutchs,brakes! No good going steady on them thats not what there about lol!!
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