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Post by Splodge on Nov 7, 2016 21:08:39 GMT 1
I have a mate who has put a deposit on the bike below It's a 1993 model with 11K miles, fairly tidy & standard from the picture and looks to have a handle bar conversion kit plus a nice set of K2 Tec pipes He's asked me to give it the once over before he hands over the rest of the cash, If any of you own one of these or have any knowledge I would appreciate any advice or pointers for weak spots to look out for (apart from the obvious with any used bike) as I don't know a lot about this model ?
Cheers in advance
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Post by dusty350 on Nov 7, 2016 21:32:15 GMT 1
Hi Looey's got a nice one. Give him a pm - I'm sure he will be happy to help  |
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Post by botty on Nov 7, 2016 21:55:27 GMT 1
You might want to re word that statement Dusty. Trace his better half has a nice one 👍😀
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Post by dusty350 on Nov 7, 2016 22:06:23 GMT 1
Ha, yea, I know Tracy rides the bike. I fancied an R1z for a time but seeing Tracy's at Brands last year realised it seems quite a small bike - certainly seems narrow compared to an Lc or a valve. They are nice though. Dusty |
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Post by botty on Nov 7, 2016 22:14:49 GMT 1
They are a great looking bike though. Tracy's has a really nice colour scheme.
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Post by Splodge on Nov 7, 2016 22:26:16 GMT 1
Thanks Dusty I've sent Looey a pm
If any one else has any info ..........
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Post by looey on Nov 7, 2016 22:31:43 GMT 1
Ha ha, yes I can confirm it's Tracey's bike, but she does let me use it on the odd Track Day  Cracking bikes, very light, great handling and monster brakes, never had any trouble with ours. The only thing I know to note is..... being Jap market only, they run very small pilot jets as standard and over here can take a while to start from cold when they have been left for some time (especially in winter), almost like the chokes aren't working (but they are). Ours has larger pilots fitted. Most seem to suffer from it, one seller was even taking his airbox off (only a 1 min job on the R1-Z) to cover the back of the carbs with his hand, then it would start within a few kicks, however long it had been left. Not problem in the summer though, even if left for a few weeks. Other than that, like you say, it's just the usual stuff to look out for on a 20+ year old 2-stroke. Other than the pipes and handlebars obviously, looks like the bar ends and indicators are non-standard ?. Should be a nice bike |
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Post by LC_BOTT on Nov 7, 2016 22:37:11 GMT 1
Apart from parts are extremely hard to get hold of, think they are similar to a TDR 250 engine. Did one up with my daughter a few years ago, not your normal colourscheme though   |
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Post by looey on Nov 7, 2016 22:45:25 GMT 1
Yeah you could be right about parts but never bought anything for ours (other than servicing and front caliper rebuils kits)
Think the engine is pretty much identical to the TZR250 (2MA) but with 26mm carbs instead of TZR's 28mm.
Anyone I know who has tried the 28mm carbs on the R1-Z didn't notice any improvement.
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Post by Splodge on Nov 7, 2016 23:08:24 GMT 1
Very interesting thanks guys
Do they have matching frame and engine numbers like LCs as i'm told the engine has 3XC only stamped on it but but no numbers is this correct ?
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Post by looey on Nov 7, 2016 23:10:38 GMT 1
Yeah that's correct, no engine number on most Jap market only bikes so I'm led to believe, but deffo not on the R1-Z.
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Post by Eyrey1 on Nov 7, 2016 23:23:07 GMT 1
looey is correct no engine numbers
ive had a fair few and also a good few tzr's and tdr's 50% of those had no engine numbers
just clear and unstamped
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Post by Splodge on Nov 7, 2016 23:28:37 GMT 1
Thanks for clearing that up, do you know what size pilot jets you have in your bike ?
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Post by arrow on Nov 8, 2016 9:31:10 GMT 1
What is wrong with these people, (Yamaha)? Why did they never import a good bike like that into the UK??
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Post by LC_BOTT on Nov 8, 2016 9:36:05 GMT 1
Heard a few people call it a 'modern' LC, although it's not that much newer |
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Post by paulsx on Nov 8, 2016 10:17:44 GMT 1
Check the rear shock and suspension linkage. They would never have been lubed in japan and the UK isnt kind to them either. Engine as said is like the TZR but I believe the barrels have slightly different porting depending on how old it is.
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Post by looey on Nov 8, 2016 10:56:08 GMT 1
Thanks for clearing that up, do you know what size pilot jets you have in your bike ? Standard Pilot in the R1-Z is 12.5 I believe, we have 15's fitted. Ours is ok (ish) now, but if I were messing around with them again I would be tempted to try 17.5 or 20.0's If I'm right (someone may be able to confirm), the 28mm 2MA carbs have a 20 pilot standard ?. |
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Post by paulsx on Nov 8, 2016 11:31:47 GMT 1
Pretty sure UK TZR and TDR bikes are 22.5 pilot jets.
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Post by looey on Nov 8, 2016 12:14:14 GMT 1
Pretty sure UK TZR and TDR bikes are 22.5 pilot jets. Yeah could be, but 20 or 22.5, just shows you how small the standard Pilot is in the R1-Z  |
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Post by Splodge on Nov 8, 2016 20:23:40 GMT 1
Cheers guys all good information and much appreciated  To be honest my mate was after a 4L0 like mine but they are so expensive now I put him on to this R1-Z as I too thought it was a pretty cool modern day LC and for the price he's paying he would only get a low end LC needing some TLC |
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Post by chris356 on Nov 9, 2016 0:33:54 GMT 1
I'm sure that's been on eBay for a while at £2995 if the deal falls through I have one that I've fully rebuilt would be willing to sell just needs running in
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Post by botty on Nov 9, 2016 0:42:36 GMT 1
I'm getting the feeling I want one of these.
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Post by Splodge on Nov 9, 2016 13:09:16 GMT 1
I'm sure that's been on eBay for a while at £2995 if the deal falls through I have one that I've fully rebuilt would be willing to sell just needs running in PM sent Chris |
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