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Post by botty on Jan 5, 2016 0:36:38 GMT 1
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Post by rsvr1000 on Jan 5, 2016 0:53:45 GMT 1
Just seen them, wow, all rare more so the Pro Am not seen a NOS one for years
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Post by Eyrey1 on Jan 5, 2016 1:38:43 GMT 1
which one you buying tony ?
you could probably get both tanks for the same as i give you for the n2 .
fukin crackers isnt it ! and some daft get with more money than sense will buy them !
more or less the same as a new 250 lc back in the day
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Post by rigga on Jan 5, 2016 8:33:46 GMT 1
Where the chuff have they been sitting to come on the market now? ?
Mental money.
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Post by steeley on Jan 5, 2016 8:56:50 GMT 1
hmmm nice find .I remember when I was looking for one I asked about the price of a new tank and the parts guy at my local Yamaha dealer had a look and said 270 quid mate nla. there are warehouses full of stuff ,there are suppose to be a load of 400 daytonas in a warehouse in Malta who knows.
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Post by lb on Jan 5, 2016 9:00:58 GMT 1
Im off to check my lotto numbers.....just found my screen.
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Post by rsvr1000 on Jan 5, 2016 13:27:27 GMT 1
Where the chuff have they been sitting to come on the market now? ? Mental money. in the guys bedroom |
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Post by bazzer5115 on Jan 5, 2016 15:24:20 GMT 1
Looks like the tanks have been sold!!!!!!
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Post by yamman1066 on Jan 5, 2016 15:50:19 GMT 1
yes looks like there sold
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 5, 2016 17:13:19 GMT 1
I remember getting the tube into London, to the Yamaha shop that used to be on the Kings Road, to get a brand new Rd400e tank. It was the last white/red tank they had and it had a really small dent in it that hadn't even broken the paint surface. Cost me £37.00  , and it was 1985 or 86. We often spend 5-600 quid on pipes for our bikes - I spent £800 on a swingarm !! but it's a lack of good useable tanks that will continue to be a big issue for us. I'd love a brand new tank like those listed, but the spending wont necessarily stop there. It's unlikely to match the existing faded, or repainted panels on your bike, decals may look different due to fading over the years too. Such a shame no one seems interested in making a run of tanks for our bikes  I read an old thread on here from Tony at Gibsons saying they think about doing it all the time, but as far as I know they never have. Dusty |
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Post by arrow on Jan 5, 2016 17:51:45 GMT 1
Makes me wonder why Yamaha don't make them anymore. Supply and demand and all that. The bike market is not the same as it used to be. There would be a real chance of the manufacturers making money again here, but they don't seem to be able to see the potential in it. Goes for a lot of other spares too.
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 5, 2016 18:27:57 GMT 1
Hi Gary
Trouble is, if yamaha can charge £30 for a base gasket, a petrol tank could be thousands !!!
Dusty
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Post by looey on Jan 5, 2016 18:53:44 GMT 1
And I remember falling off my Marsbar 350LC in 84 and denting the tank (I was gutted)  A few weeks later, walked into a Yamaha dealer with me dad (think it was in New Malden, Surrey), was walking up the stairs to the parts department, and there it was hanging from the wall, a brand spankers tank in Marbar colours  . £85 and a couple of minutes later and it was on the way home with us   If only eh ?. |
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Post by gsexr on Jan 5, 2016 19:43:30 GMT 1
And I remember falling off my Marsbar 350LC in 84 and denting the tank (I was gutted) A few weeks later, walked into a Yamaha dealer with me dad (think it was in New Malden, Surrey), was walking up the stairs to the parts department, and there it was hanging from the wall, a brand spankers tank in Marbar colours . £85 and a couple of minutes later and it was on the way home with us If only eh ?. Could have been Roy Smiths in Burlington Road |
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Post by iwantalc on Jan 5, 2016 21:28:11 GMT 1
the ads do prove that they are still out there ..its just finding them and at the right money is the problem..
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Post by muttsnuts on Jan 5, 2016 21:54:51 GMT 1
funnily enough I am having a chat with somebody I know about making me some LC tanks and possibly some Aircooled tanks, given I am a fussy so and so, they will need to be right, cost wise is an open question as I need to take him one of each tank for him to use as patterns, and I only have 2 tanks, both for my bikes, which means my bikes wil be out of action for a while if he agrees to have a go at making them
If anything comes of it, you guys will be the first to know about it
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Post by looey on Jan 5, 2016 22:15:29 GMT 1
I did all this on the X7 forum to try and get some tanks made, I even sent a tank of mine that I haven't got back. We got right down to the detail of making sure the tanks would accept the standard taps and caps but the main problem seemed (excuse the pun  ) to be replicating the pressed seams all around the tank, which apparently could only be replicated using the production machinery ?. Getting an alloy replica was do-able (but without being able to replicate the seams) but when it came to it, nobody wanted to part with any £££ to get the project started. Are you talking to him about steel or ally tanks ?. Ally would be great for obvious reason. Hope you have more luck, as I'd certainly be interested in buying one or two |
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 5, 2016 22:37:47 GMT 1
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Post by looey on Jan 5, 2016 22:46:51 GMT 1
Yep, that's the company I was talking to. It could've happened but not enough people in the X7 community were interested, I imagine it will be a lot different for the LCs  |
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Post by rigga on Jan 5, 2016 23:00:29 GMT 1
Well unless someone does make a reproduction tank in steel or Ali, in the not too distant future there will be no options, originals are now getting rarer than hens teeth and the rusty ones can only be repaired so much, we'll be left with staring at rolling chassis remembering the days when the things made noise.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 5, 2016 23:05:43 GMT 1
31k tanks getting there too so need done.
Amazes me there is no problem getting car panels copied but no one is interested in making moulds of tank sections to press up.
Also if tanks can be made without seems how difficult would it be to make the seam section separate and tig it on
Steve
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Post by rigga on Jan 5, 2016 23:59:09 GMT 1
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jan 6, 2016 0:40:18 GMT 1
funnily enough I am having a chat with somebody I know about making me some LC tanks and possibly some Aircooled tanks, given I am a fussy so and so, they will need to be right, cost wise is an open question as I need to take him one of each tank for him to use as patterns, and I only have 2 tanks, both for my bikes, which means my bikes wil be out of action for a while if he agrees to have a go at making them If anything comes of it, you guys will be the first to know about it Dave, I have a couple of spare tanks, one with a new paint job which i would be reluctant to let out the house, but i also have one that needs a little bit of work on a leaky seam and a paint job, but would be great for your mate to use as a pattern. Let me know, will save your LC being out of action. I don't have any air cooled stuff, I'm not as old as you! Lol. |
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Post by chippy348 on Jan 6, 2016 3:43:21 GMT 1
It is the "chase" that people buy into, the nostalgia, the finding that rare part.
The fact is as soon as someone makes a re-production tank no matter if it's 100% spot on to the original they will not
A: pay say £400 for it
B: will slate is as not NOS or genuine
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Post by rigga on Jan 6, 2016 8:29:36 GMT 1
Its the two schools of thought at play here, the 100% has to be original owners (and not slating those at all here) will not be interested as its not an original part, and I get that, but realisticly as I've said before there is a finite number of new parts that drip onto the market, eventually its reproduction or nothing. Then there's maybe the hybrid owners who are not that precious (having bastadized the bike in the first place) who as long as it looks ok, will pay the price of a good reproduction tank, and its not going to be cheap unless it can be made and sold in numbers, that in itself it a stumbling block.
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 6, 2016 9:25:20 GMT 1
I'd be interested, but I've actually hoarded a few tanks over the years In reality, as already mentioned, how many do you think will sell, 0-100, 100-500?? compared to the car business, where repro stuff would possibly be done in thousands, once the initial surge of buyers has disappeared, then turnover would be very slow. There's still (what look like) good tanks on fleabay for £2-300 that aren't selling, are people going to up their budget another few hundred ££'s for a new, paintless tanks. then there's the, who's going to try one first, has it gone rusty, etc etc Everyones thoughts on a reasonable price is different, if those tanks above were £800 BIN I might had 'thought' about hitting the button, other would possibly snapped then up as sonn as they'd seen them etc |
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Post by muttsnuts on Jan 6, 2016 10:44:47 GMT 1
Agree on all of your points guys
Currently there are 3 options I am looking at
1. Make new steel ones
2. Make new Alloy ones
3. Make a fuel cell that you then cover using you old tank with the bottom cut out - so a cover
The latter is the easiest and will be fine for race/track bikes etc, not so sure for road bikes etc though
It does all come down to price, but if they can be done and at sensible money then I'd stump up the money for a "number of them" to be made, probably around the 10 to 20 mark depending upon cost as eventually there will be no more tanks available and people will have no choice but to go "reproduction" or not at all
Shaun, the LC tank sounds like a good plan, saves mine being out of action, so I may take you up on that, thanks
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Post by steven on Jan 6, 2016 11:19:55 GMT 1
...I keep thinking.... 3D Printer !?!?!  I dont know anything about 3D printers, apart from what Iv seen on telly and online. When I heard about them at first approx 3 or so years ago ? I looked round the net, and emailed a couple of the more prominent 3D printer company's I found, and asked them if they could 3D print a motorbike petrol tank. The replies I got both said no they could not, as at present, the only material they could 3D print with was plastic, but Im sure I read somewhere else that they were confident in the near future they will be able to use other materials ? Is anyone well versed on 3D printers ? or am I barking up the wrong petrol tank ? steven. |
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Post by steve h on Jan 6, 2016 12:04:38 GMT 1
Just wonder how popular LCs are compared to Commandos www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/roadster-steel-petrol-tank_3769.htm#!prettyPhoto. These are not at all bad so I hear. There must come a point when something has to give and new tank making becomes viable, seems to have happened with Commandos and I would of thought that there were as many LCs around as mandos? Must of been a bit of a demand as some of these concrete breakers disguised as motorcycles had fibreglass tanks ....mine included. Now if a repro can be made in Tiawan and shipped here for a rrp of £240, it should be quite feasible to do the same for our bikes? and no doubt get quite a bit more for an elsie version, I'd pay more than £240 for a decent repro tank. |
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Post by bazzer5115 on Jan 6, 2016 16:24:58 GMT 1
It"s such a pity that the ones made in India are not a bit better quality.If all they needed was a slight skim of filler to finish off manufacture marks,then I would be prepared to buy one.
The problem with buying a used tank off eBay which is supposedly good is it to risky for me without viewing first and I never see one advertised near plymouth.
My friend bought an endoscope from eBay a while ago and I looked inside my tank(not in good condition with surface rust and the odd pinhole)well a good probe around shows it to be a complete mess inside.
So unfortunately I would not spend a couple of hundred quid on a tank without a good look around the inside.
Still looking for a good tank as my rebuild nearly done.just need to sort loom -and get a good tank!
Baz
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, and it was 1985 or 86. We often spend 5-600 quid on pipes for our bikes - I spent £800 on a swingarm !! but it's a lack of good useable tanks that will continue to be a big issue for us. I'd love a brand new tank like those listed, but the spending wont necessarily stop there. It's unlikely to match the existing faded, or repainted panels on your bike, decals may look different due to fading over the years too. Such a shame no one seems interested in making a run of tanks for our bikes 
I read an old thread on here from Tony at Gibsons saying they think about doing it all the time, but as far as I know they never have.
. £85 and a couple of minutes later and it was on the way home with us 
) to be replicating the pressed seams all around the tank, which apparently could only be replicated using the production machinery ?.
