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Post by howard on Aug 10, 2015 21:24:35 GMT 1
Had my bike painted a month ago and I'm just not happy with the paint finish and the position of the Yamaha decals , the painter said he will rework the paint , ie smooth the orange peal but I think the decal is too high and to be really fussy the black it was pointed out that the black isn't as black as the NOS panels I've had the tank matched up with  src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv251/howardrd/image.jpg1_14.jpg"][/a]  |
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 10, 2015 21:37:38 GMT 1
I'd say decals are too far forward, and on a bit of an angle too, just did one of mine, and took ages trying to get the decals sorted to what I thought was 'correct' (also have an original tank to compare with)
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Post by iwantalc on Aug 10, 2015 21:42:14 GMT 1
compared to the white tank the yamaha on black tank doesnt look right must be why they called them yamaha cos you put decals on and say aha that looks ok..lol
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Post by looey on Aug 10, 2015 21:49:24 GMT 1
I agree, I'd want the decal placed as per the white tank but they were all over the place from the factory  . I've got a picture of my RD125LC when it was brand new & before I'd even ridden it and the Yamaha on the LHS of the tank was as p*ssed as anything   |
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Post by spondonchris on Aug 10, 2015 21:52:36 GMT 1
They were applied by hand at Yamaha so non of em were perfect, i have seen em a ton worse than this to be fair, i would leave it alone.....or get the entire kit painted by the same man on the same day who does em regular.
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Post by howard on Aug 10, 2015 22:09:03 GMT 1
I know it's never going to be perfect but it's been done by a professional painter who charges accordingly it's not like it's a production line job, you can tell it's not right when other people mention it and suggest painters they know who can get a better finish , black is always going to be hard to get a smooth mirror like finish but there's also a floor in the paintwork down to the metal that looks like a small oil spot.
I've had a white set done by the same guy a couple of years ago and it was 99% perfect and that's why I went back to him , in fact it was my favourite part of the bike .
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Post by paulperth on Aug 11, 2015 6:16:31 GMT 1
This is what I got back !  He accused me of being anal when I said I wasn't happy with the positioning of the decals - needless to say we agreed to disagree, I eventually found someone who knew that they were doing but it does p*ss you off when people say they can do things that they obviously cant. Yours in comparison Howard are pretty good |
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Post by bogbrush on Aug 11, 2015 6:32:50 GMT 1
This is what I got back ! He accused me of being anal when I said I wasn't happy with the positioning of the decals - needless to say we agreed to disagree, I eventually found someone who knew that they were doing but it does p*ss you off when people say they can do things that they obviously cant. Yours in comparison Howard are pretty good |
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Post by bogbrush on Aug 11, 2015 6:54:07 GMT 1
I'm afraid your tank decal is way off and if, like me, you'd find it bugs you every time you look at it then you should get it sorted. I'm no painter but I'm sure a decal can't be moved once the clear coat is on without a full respray. I'm never 100% happy with decal positions but as previously mentioned the positions were never that consistent when new. I've been restoring classic Jap bikes for over 20 years now and have learned through bitter disappointment to always use a painter who is well known within the particular bikes community so you can be sure he knows where the decals should go. I've just had this set done and I'm 95% happy, for me that's very good.  |
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Post by howard on Aug 11, 2015 12:19:27 GMT 1
Yours looks great , I tried mine on my bike and thought I could live with it but it was other peeps who kindly pointed out the decals and orange peel lol.
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Post by bogbrush on Aug 11, 2015 14:47:34 GMT 1
Yours looks great , I tried mine on my bike and thought I could live with it but it was other peeps who kindly pointed out the decals and orange peel lol. Sorry to hear that. I hope you get it sorted at the painters cost or a least a hefty discount. I know it's hassle you could do without but I'm sure you'd kick yourself in the future if didn't . Good luck. |
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Post by howard on Aug 11, 2015 18:24:09 GMT 1
Looks like I'll be trying elsewhere after just speaking with the painter who wants £170 to rework the tank ! I bought the tank as a really good German import then spent £550 on getting the tank front muddy , belly pan and fairing painted plus new decals fitted to NOS side panels and tail piece , the other painted bits are great it's just the tank I need redoing but I've spent enough .
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Post by iwantalc on Aug 11, 2015 18:36:02 GMT 1
name and shame the painter..
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 11, 2015 18:55:43 GMT 1
Are you happy with the decals?? if thats the case, maybe you cab get it professionally wet sanded, to take out the orange peel, and then recoat in 2-pack, otherwise it's a complete stripdown, new decals and lacquer. Might even be possible to carefully sand back, and cut the 'Yamaha' off and replace that?? Nearly sound like I know what I'm talking about  |
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Post by robin on Aug 12, 2015 15:18:37 GMT 1
I managed by using rubbing compound and a rubber block to remove the clear coat off of my Decals, then I lifted them off the tank, with a scalpel, left behind a Yamaha imprint in the clear coat, now that was an absolute ball ache to get flat without removing the top coat, I have done it, but won't attempt it again.
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Post by paulperth on Aug 13, 2015 4:24:05 GMT 1
Thats how I got mine off, it was a royal pain in the arse - $100 for a pro to put on the another $100 for a clear coat over the top but at least I'm 95% happy now. Some lessons are more expensive than others I guess Paul I managed by using rubbing compound and a rubber block to remove the clear coat off of my Decals, then I lifted them off the tank, with a scalpel, left behind a Yamaha imprint in the clear coat, now that was an absolute ball ache to get flat without removing the top coat, I have done it, but won't attempt it again. |
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Post by howard on Aug 13, 2015 20:38:58 GMT 1
Not going to try and remove the decals as the paint finish isn't great so I'm going to get my spare tank painted elsewhere , I've a few mates who have used Andy two bikes and they look really good but none of them are black , surely black isn't that hard to paint as all the other panels are great .
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 13, 2015 21:02:46 GMT 1
Not going to try and remove the decals as the paint finish isn't great so I'm going to get my spare tank painted elsewhere , I've a few mates who have used Andy two bikes and they look really good but none of them are black , surely black isn't that hard to paint as all the other panels are great . Andy will do a spot on jnob, I;ve had several done in black, no orange peel, or go to Clive at Rapier in Hull, he is excellent, but he will cost more I suspect I have a 250LC painted by Clive in marsbar, if I think on I'll take a picture tomorrow for you |
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Post by howard on Aug 14, 2015 7:56:27 GMT 1
Might have to try them then Dave as I'm getting no joy with Cordwells .
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 14, 2015 9:37:10 GMT 1
How much is it to have just the tank painted? Do you know yet.
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Post by iwantalc on Aug 14, 2015 11:02:57 GMT 1
so we name and shame cordwells..
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 14, 2015 16:51:19 GMT 1
Hmm, that worries me
Now don't know what to do
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 14, 2015 16:52:38 GMT 1
Not going to try and remove the decals as the paint finish isn't great so I'm going to get my spare tank painted elsewhere , I've a few mates who have used Andy two bikes and they look really good but none of them are black , surely black isn't that hard to paint as all the other panels are great . Andy will do a spot on jnob, I;ve had several done in black, no orange peel, or go to Clive at Rapier in Hull, he is excellent, but he will cost more I suspect I have a 250LC painted by Clive in marsbar, if I think on I'll take a picture tomorrow for you Are you 100% sure Andy uses 2 pack? Steve |
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Post by Eyrey1 on Aug 14, 2015 17:20:41 GMT 1
Andy will do a spot on jnob, I;ve had several done in black, no orange peel, or go to Clive at Rapier in Hull, he is excellent, but he will cost more I suspect I have a 250LC painted by Clive in marsbar, if I think on I'll take a picture tomorrow for you Are you 100% sure Andy uses 2 pack? Steve andy painted my lc2 and i was well happy howard has spent a fortune on building the best lc he can and on a thursday when there are 20 of them parked up at squires and they are all fault picking wierdo's ,lol but his tank is pants sticks out streight away ,look amature to me i always thought cordwells were the ones to do lc paint jobs ,i must be wrong . i dont see why he wont put it right ,i would be pissed off as well 8k in a bike and the tank looks terrible |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Aug 14, 2015 17:29:01 GMT 1
I'm surprised it's Cordwells as he has always done me a good job.
I know he gets Image Works to apply his decals so something seems to have gone wrong.
Hope you get it sorted.
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Post by howard on Aug 14, 2015 17:48:06 GMT 1
Mark told me that image works puts the decals on but I'm not sure about the Yamaha , he may well do that himself , I've sent him pictures and text him but no reply so I've given up on him and when I spoke to him this week he says its £170 to rework the tank.
It's the paint finish and the odd flaw in it that whittled me but the decal just stands out from a distance and is not up to the standard of the rest of the bike , I did explain before it was painted that I was making the bike mint and standard before I asked for a price , it might be me being fussy but I would like the tank as good as the other panels .
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Post by li150ss on Aug 14, 2015 17:58:43 GMT 1
I don't think your being fussy, you can see from 2nd pic the faults in paint. he must have known just by looking at the panels and tail piece that the paint wasn't as good on the tank, a decent painter wouldn't let them out of workshop like that and especially after you've told him bike is going to be mint. not going to help his reputation sending work like that out.
plus you can do without ballache after spending good money on it. I hope you get it sorted
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Post by spacejunkie on Aug 14, 2015 20:06:05 GMT 1
Is that imageworxs derby way I was going to get them to put my decals on as me mate is spraying me stuff first then I was getting the decals from there and getting them to put them on
Noo that's put a spanner in the works
I don't want the decal police on me case
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Post by greeny on Aug 14, 2015 22:18:31 GMT 1
I dont get this sorry.
£170 to rework his own crap work that you have already paid for. Have you asked him if he is happy with the finish he has given you. Get some money back off him and go elsewhere cheeky bugger..
You are going to be paying someone else anyway and lets face it after this experience are you likely to use again??
So upsetting someone big deal.
Just my thoughts...
Keep us all posted.
E
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 15, 2015 0:27:40 GMT 1
Are you 100% sure Andy uses 2 pack? Steve andy painted my lc2 and i was well happy howard has spent a fortune on building the best lc he can and on a thursday when there are 20 of them parked up at squires and they are all fault picking wierdo's ,lol but his tank is pants sticks out streight away ,look amature to me i always thought cordwells were the ones to do lc paint jobs ,i must be wrong . i dont see why he wont put it right ,i would be pissed off as well 8k in a bike and the tank looks terrible Reason I ask is there was an old thread on the old Rd forum about someone who paid for a "professional" job and they spilled petrol which lifted the paint off the tank. Can't remember who painted it but was not 2k Can get that kind of job locally for 200 Steve |
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