Pipes!!

[elliottles]

peeps,

check these out, made for lc and ypvs, price is pretty hard to beat too;-

japan.webike.net/products/21574221.html

cheers

les

[looey]

Nice looking pipes.

They look like they're on an R1-Z in the pictures ?. I could be wrong ?

Link works for me.

[steeley]

link not working for me.

[elliottles]

More Pipes!!

these are even more reasonably priced, plus correct photo;

japan.webike.net/products/21592415.html

if link doesn't work just google K2Tec exhaust rz250

cheers

les

[lolly]

not a big fan of gp pipes on elsies ; only look good on VJ22s

[wolfboy1]

Mar 31, 2015 19:43:53 GMT 1 elliottles said:

peeps,

check these out, made for lc and ypvs, price is pretty hard to beat too;-

japan.webike.net/products/21574221.html

cheers

les

not a lover of gp style pipes , but i would say these are the best i've seen ............ beautiful !

[wolfboy1]

very tz ish imho ............... nice !

[yazza54]

Might look nice but are they any good..

[alistair64]

Mar 31, 2015 22:48:58 GMT 1 yazza54 said:

Might look nice but are they any good..

Exactly...if the performance gains are negligible then it doesn't really matter how good they look.
I guess none of us know that.

[Wez350]

Mar 31, 2015 22:54:35 GMT 1 alistair64 said:

Mar 31, 2015 22:48:58 GMT 1 yazza54 said:

Might look nice but are they any good..

Exactly...if the performance gains are negligible then it doesn't really matter how good they look.
I guess none of us know that.

There from the land of the rising sun they are going to work i have had bit's from these guy's and the quality is spot on (As you would expect from over there) only thing you have to factor in is getting caught at customs on the second set when converted to gbp it would be approx £45 vat and the post handling fee £18.50 but at £281 all in and if like me you are not going to run off straight to a dyno and worry about a few extra bhp(Did we 30 years ago worry about that when we fitted microns/allspeeds) i would have a set and if they feel good when fitted then i would be happy.I have been looking at these ones
Pipe and all in they work out at just at just a tad over £300 all in which i think is not bad.
Also the last pipes from japan i had for my old 500 fitted perfect and did not need any jetting at all just a raise on the needle again this was before every thing went dyno.(Have you guess i am old school !! Dyno's let your built in arse dyno do the the talking worked for me over the last 30 years)

[spooch63]

Very nice pipes and at that price you can't really complain surely !!

[4l04ever]

Apr 1, 2015 13:03:45 GMT 1 Wez350 said:

Mar 31, 2015 22:54:35 GMT 1 alistair64 said:

Exactly...if the performance gains are negligible then it doesn't really matter how good they look.
I guess none of us know that.

There from the land of the rising sun they are going to work i have had bit's from these guy's and the quality is spot on (As you would expect from over there) only thing you have to factor in is getting caught at customs on the second set when converted to gbp it would be approx £45 vat and the post handling fee £18.50 but at £281 all in and if like me you are not going to run off straight to a dyno and worry about a few extra bhp(Did we 30 years ago worry about that when we fitted microns/allspeeds) i would have a set and if they feel good when fitted then i would be happy.I have been looking at these ones
Pipe and all in they work out at just at just a tad over £300 all in which i think is not bad.
Also the last pipes from japan i had for my old 500 fitted perfect and did not need any jetting at all just a raise on the needle again this was before every thing went dyno.(Have you guess i am old school !! Dyno's let your built in arse dyno do the the talking worked for me over the last 30 years)

I have seen TSA pipes make 12hp more than Allspeeds, so it can be more than a few hp difference....but I suppose some people like the look or sound more than the performance. Each to their own.

[Wez350]

Apr 1, 2015 14:35:50 GMT 1 4l04ever said:

Apr 1, 2015 13:03:45 GMT 1 Wez350 said:

There from the land of the rising sun they are going to work i have had bit's from these guy's and the quality is spot on (As you would expect from over there) only thing you have to factor in is getting caught at customs on the second set when converted to gbp it would be approx £45 vat and the post handling fee £18.50 but at £281 all in and if like me you are not going to run off straight to a dyno and worry about a few extra bhp(Did we 30 years ago worry about that when we fitted microns/allspeeds) i would have a set and if they feel good when fitted then i would be happy.I have been looking at these ones
Pipe and all in they work out at just at just a tad over £300 all in which i think is not bad.
Also the last pipes from japan i had for my old 500 fitted perfect and did not need any jetting at all just a raise on the needle again this was before every thing went dyno.(Have you guess i am old school !! Dyno's let your built in arse dyno do the the talking worked for me over the last 30 years)

I have seen TSA pipes make 12hp more than Allspeeds, so it can be more than a few hp difference....but I suppose some people like the look or sound more than the performance. Each to their own.

I really do not get the big importance of dyno's and bhp.I ask the question did if you rode lc's back in the day always run to a dyno no as they were for race bikes back then you just fitted a set of pipes and if it felt better great.So yes may be Kenny's make more then Allspeeds if it was 30 years ago and you fitted them it would of felt better but would you be thinking oh wonder how many bhp these make no i doubt it.Never had my bike on a dyno and i proberly never will but then again i do not like rgv conversions and big bore kit's as to me it's not an lc more a bike based on an lc but as you say each to there own.

[elliottles]

hi again,

heres a pair fitted and running, look and sound great to me, I too would not be too bothered about the odd HP here or there, I love the look and they are HALF the price of anything over here, plus if you spend 50 squids more with them its free postage!!

cheers

les

[twostrokebrit]

They are great on price ,
it would be nice if anyone ends up buying a set , get em on a dyno and post the results.
mark

[steeley]

my tool bar was blocking the link the other day.yes nice looking pipes I like the cross over ones with a pipe each side.

[midlifecrisisrd]

Yes they seem very cheap

When you look at them on ebay the stainless ones are 800 - 1000 so seems strangely cheap

Even the steel ones are dearer

Steve

[ellasae]

That's a seriously interesting site,

I've fallen for these pipes now japan.webike.net/products/21798544.html

I've no idea what the power characteristics would be like but i love the look of them with the crossed headers and the bulk of the chambers tucked right under the engine

My credit card is twitching in a do i or don't i sort of way...........

[ellasae]

And i think these sound the business , they're on the webike site as well



But why two rear brake pedals?

[tsa]

They do look nice but they look very short to me meaning quite high rpm biased.

[steeley]

Kenney hi,how much agro would it be for you to make a cross over pipe for 350 lc /ypvs.they do look good mind.interesting you say they look short.i read some time ago tz350 pipes were built like this as in cross over to get the right sort of length to fit on the bike .nothing to have stuck past the rear wheel.

[tsa]

If I got 5 confirmed orders for some Id make them but I wouldnt do it for 1 set mate. Im to busy for that at the moment.

[leaky]

Apr 2, 2015 15:59:55 GMT 1 ellasae said:

That's a seriously interesting site,

I've fallen for these pipes now japan.webike.net/products/21798544.html

I've no idea what the power characteristics would be like but i love the look of them with the crossed headers and the bulk of the chambers tucked right under the engine

My credit card is twitching in a do i or don't i sort of way...........

Yup, my favourite too but that Japanese spec F1 is simply a thing of beauty!

[yazza54]

Forgive me for being a pessimist, but all I've read so far is how cheap they are and how good they look... Number 1 priority on a 2T pipe is how they perform. I'm not saying out and out power, top trumps etc, but a set of cheap shiny pipes is no good if they shove the power way up the range and make the bike dead peaky, or vise versa only perform in a window whether it be high or low in the range.

This is why people pay kenny what I believe is reasonable money for pipes that not only look the nuts but above all else, work!

[ellasae]

That's a fair comment leaky , however out and out performance isn't everyones no.1 priority

I've always run small can Allspeeds because they look and sound good to me , which is the same reason i'm drawn to these Japanese pipes. I feel that given the size of the domestic market for these in japan they'd have to perform reasonably well in order for the company to survive

These particular pipes may as Kenny has hinted move the power up the rev range and possibly make the bike peakier as a result but i don't really care about that , it's a two stroke , if i want smooth ,linear 150 hp performance i just go out on my R1

[muttsnuts]

clearly some of you have NOT read my exhaust pipe test that I did a few years back, I tested 10 different makes of exhausts on an LC, old skool stuff and new stuff, some common pipes, some not so common, the report tells you all you need to know about pipes and the effects they have on your LC engine - of course it was all done on a Dyno, so not using my arse Dyno as that would have produced the wrong results.

Yazza is correct, the wrong pipe will kill your bike one way or another, its important to get the right pipe fitted, its not all about max BHP, its about finding a balance between good driveability and useable power, sure if you want to go racing then you won't care about the bottom end, just rev the nuts off the thing, so short pipes/TZ style, you'll have bugger all power below 8k rev's, but at 12k you'll have loads, but then your engine will last next to bugger all time

I suggest those of you considering buying ANY pipe for you bike read that report first, PM if you want me to email you a copy, you might just learn a thing or two that you did't know and it will also dispel some of the pub myths and also what an arse dyno tells you, some of the pipes that people rave about actually perform very badly, but if you rode it down the road you'd think they had given you a huge power boost, when in fact they had just killed the bottom end and made the bike very peaky, so when the power came on, it came on strong, thereby giving you the impression of a big improvement

HTH

[elliottles]

hi,

im sure all of the discussion concerning power increase is correct, but how does it relate to pipes that no-one has purchase/tested yet?

I found one review online googling "k2tec exhausts review, by a ypvs owner who was "totally happy with the looks/sound performance".

for me, as long as the performance was not worse, these pipes are georgous and cheap.

cheers

les

[muttsnuts]

agree, each to their own, if your happy with them, that's all that matters, but if they make the bike worse to ride, then it doesn't matter how cheap they are, your not going to enjoy riding it, they could very well be perfectly fine for all I know.

At the end of the day, its your bike and your money, so its entirely up to you, I produced the report to help inform people and dispel certain claims, I did this at cost to me, I've made no money out of the testing in any shape or form, so the info is there, but its down to people to chose whether or not to read it/use it, personally, it doesn't matter either way if people do or not

[Wez350]

Well can of worms opened i think i am going to take the plunge and get a set as the last pipes i got from Japan for my old 500 worked spot on.I did read your pipe test a while back and yes very interesting but some of us still like the arse dyno never let me down but then i am still in the 80's and enjoying my lc with it's at the moment old skool microns do they work to me yes,then again my allspeeds still do what i want them to as well.Yes it is all in the mind but my question still is if you rode them in back in the day did you worry about just how they worked no you just fitted plug chopped and smiled while all your mates said how cool they sounded but then again there were no dyno's to use and on yts money no one if they could get to use one had the money.Guess it's just me but have to agree if you want 150 plus smooth power by a big diesel and after only owning 70's and 80's diesel's(Have you guessed i liked the 80's a lot) i finally brought a modern one and first time i gave it a handful i think a little poo came out but even with this power there give me the lc any day

[spooch63]

Apr 3, 2015 14:47:54 GMT 1 Wez350 said:

Well can of worms opened i think i am going to take the plunge and get a set as the last pipes i got from Japan for my old 500 worked spot on.I did read your pipe test a while back and yes very interesting but some of us still like the arse dyno never let me down but then i am still in the 80's and enjoying my lc with it's at the moment old skool microns do they work to me yes,then again my allspeeds still do what i want them to as well.Yes it is all in the mind but my question still is if you rode them in back in the day did you worry about just how they worked no you just fitted plug chopped and smiled while all your mates said how cool they sounded but then again there were no dyno's to use and on yts money no one if they could get to use one had the money.Guess it's just me but have to agree if you want 150 plus smooth power by a big diesel and after only owning 70's and 80's diesel's(Have you guessed i liked the 80's a lot) i finally brought a modern one and first time i gave it a handful i think a little poo came out but even with this power there give me the lc any day

I'm sure we will all look forward to hearing how they perform, quite tempted myself but in no rush as as most on here project is taking much longer than anticipated !!