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Post by 1966baz on Jan 1, 2015 18:28:40 GMT 1
Hi everyone, I'm sure this has been covered before but I have a beige coloured tank sealant all peeling and bubbling up in a tank I want to use. The paint is very good so don't want to ruin that. It might be petseal inside the tank, whatever it all needs to come out. Any suggestions are welcome. Cheers Nick.
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Post by steven on Jan 1, 2015 20:52:55 GMT 1
Hi and Happy New Year to all.
I removed an old liner from an LC tank a year or two ago using Acetone, which is readily available from ebay.
I dont think it was a modern type liner like por15 or one of them.
I had to leave the acetone in the tank for a good two or three weeks and shake/agitate it regularly, eventualy all the old liner melted and it all came out no probs.
Acetone does not work on por 15.
cheers,
steven.
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Post by garyt on Jan 1, 2015 20:57:57 GMT 1
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Post by 1966baz on Jan 1, 2015 21:01:25 GMT 1
Thanks Steven and Garry I'll look into the above. Happy new year.
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Post by steeley on Jan 1, 2015 21:06:58 GMT 1
hi, as steven says acetone is the stuff to break it up.protect the paint work from the liquid plus the fumes it will bugger it.tank liners aint they wonderfull.we are going to see more of this ,oh this is how I have removed a couple its a bit harsh I know and doesn't do the paint work any good.
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Post by billyboy on Jan 1, 2015 22:16:54 GMT 1
will most likely be petseal and there are many tales of woe using this stuff !
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Post by von on Jan 2, 2015 1:57:48 GMT 1
Acetone worked well for me???
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Post by copper99 on Jan 2, 2015 19:34:01 GMT 1
hi, as steven says acetone is the stuff to break it up.protect the paint work from the liquid plus the fumes it will bugger it.tank liners aint they wonderfull.we are going to see more of this ,oh this is how I have removed a couple its a bit harsh I know and doesn't do the paint work any good.  Love your vids Ray ! I was mesmerised for the whole 1:44s by the flames man... |
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Post by 1966baz on Jan 2, 2015 19:38:48 GMT 1
Thanks steeley, that reminds me of when I used to be a pisshead sitting round a fire like that. Cheers.
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Post by steeley on Jan 2, 2015 19:46:38 GMT 1
Glad you guys like.i hope I don't come across as some pyrotechnic nut who just wants to burn up the planet.burn it burn it all ,nurse the screens.nah, the burner is just a tool that has come in handy.
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Post by looey on Jan 2, 2015 19:55:37 GMT 1
I had this in one of my LC tanks earlier this year. It was all just floating about in there but not causing any problems, so I left it in there until the Autumn when I took the bike off the road to do some other stuff. By that time it had all come off on its own, so I got the tank bone dry inside, shook all the bits to the accessible side of the tank, then plucked it all out with one of those long mechanics grabber tools. Took about 2 hours to get it all out but the paintwork was never in danger at any point  . Some of it at the bottom was about an inch thick !  I can only assume a previous owner put it in there as a precaution, as the tank isn't rusty inside now it's all gone !. WTF ?......   |
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Post by steeley on Jan 2, 2015 20:19:30 GMT 1
looey ,I have seen that before.yes shake the crap out, its been put in with no prep work.
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Post by 1966baz on Jan 2, 2015 20:25:51 GMT 1
Crikey Looey, lucky it cam out so easy. Looks like petseal which seams to be about as useful as a chocolate kettle these days.
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Post by steeley on Jan 2, 2015 20:34:06 GMT 1
hmmm if you have any doubts about any left in looey the burner is available oh foc of course lol.nah just kidding get the acetone in there to get any hangers on out.
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Post by looey on Jan 2, 2015 20:37:48 GMT 1
Lol yeah I think it'll be fine now thanks  With all that in cr*p in there, it wasn't causing any probs, and like you said, I don't think any prep work had been done, so it all just came straight off/out  . The tank is nice and silver inside now with none at all left in there. |
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Post by steeley on Jan 2, 2015 20:58:33 GMT 1
ah good stuff mate.its strange how some tanks stay good and some turn to crap.oh this is tanks from different makes of bike strange eh.
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Post by looey on Jan 2, 2015 21:09:29 GMT 1
In my experience, it's mostly down to how/where the bikes have been stored through winters over their life span. If the bikes get left in cold/damp sheds & garages, then condensation forms on the inside of the petrol tanks just the same as it does on external metal parts. That in turn ends up in the bottom of the tanks and over time rots them out  . Whenever I buy an old bike, the first thing I do is drain the petrol tank and get it bone dry in there, just to make 100% sure there's not any water that's got in there over time. The main exceptions seem to be bikes that have always run on pre-mix, where the oil content helps keep the rot away. You don't often come across a rotten FS1-E petrol tank  |
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Post by steeley on Jan 2, 2015 21:25:39 GMT 1
I think there is more to it .a friend of mine has a rg250 and the tank is shiny inside ,while I have one that is crap inside but they are very close frame number wise .he also just sold a kh 250 which was a 1976 and that tank was shiny inside .its to do with the steel /treatment inside lack of to cut cost.just my 10p worth.
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Post by looey on Jan 2, 2015 21:32:40 GMT 1
Do you know how the 2 RG250's spent most of their lives, so to compare how the tanks fared differently over time as a result ?. I can undertsand different bikes/manufacturers having different thickness steel and treatments but not on identical models ?. We've got an early single disc Mk1 RG250 and the tank is also a nice clean silver inside |
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Post by steve h on Jan 2, 2015 21:54:06 GMT 1
My rg250 tank is also immaculate on the inside...proddy racer...premix.
Maybe the best way to go if you want to preserve your fuel tank is to premix but have the oil pump set on minimum so engine still receives oil when coasting off throttle, or going downhill.
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Love your vids Ray !
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