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Post by icarus001 on May 14, 2013 12:09:44 GMT 1
Does it make a lot of difference?
Do they actually handle a lot better?
I remember the forks being an issue on my old LC, under heavy braking I could feel them squirming and the front would weave.
But I'm told that if you sort the front you just end up feeling the flex in the frame and its not much better, unless you brace the frame and then something else lets it down....and its a never ending story, unless you basically change everything and then its not an LC anymore.
So is it genuinely worth putting an RGV front and rear end on and does it transform the bike?
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Post by kennyroberts on May 14, 2013 18:00:23 GMT 1
I dont know about the handling but it does look better.
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Post by phil916 on May 14, 2013 18:21:57 GMT 1
I dont know about the handling but it does look better. Lol! ;D that's exactly why I've just done mine!! |
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Post by icarus001 on May 14, 2013 19:11:56 GMT 1
I dont know about the handling but it does look better. I disagree mate, I think they look terrible to be honest, so I was wondering if the benefits outweigh the looks. Otherwise I don't see the point, why not just buy an RGV if thats the look you're after. Why buy an LC and try to turn it into something its not  Unless it drastically alters how it handles and makes it a much better bike. |
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Post by spondonchris on May 14, 2013 19:14:54 GMT 1
I think they look too long unbalanced and a bit shit, my mate used GSXR400 stuff and the bike looks right, RGV conversions look weird.
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Post by redlinemick on May 14, 2013 19:29:19 GMT 1
I think the conversions looks better on the LC2 myself.
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Post by icarus001 on May 14, 2013 19:39:55 GMT 1
I think they look too long unbalanced and a bit shit, my mate used GSXR400 stuff and the bike looks right, RGV conversions look weird. I'd agree with that mate, I've seen a couple done with TZR front and rear and that looks closer to standard and much better. I think the standard LC is one of the nicest looking bikes out, its a shame to ruin it with bits that don't look even close to standard. |
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Post by nikfubar on May 14, 2013 19:50:07 GMT 1
Horses for courses, I hate anything standard, there's always room for improvement
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Post by phil916 on May 14, 2013 20:56:53 GMT 1
Horses for courses, I hate anything standard, there's always room for improvement Horses for courses is right! Maybe I'm just fussy but apart from my 916 I don't think I've owned another bike that I've liked every part of it, so why not change it until it looks how you want it to? I always loved the look of the LC ( never liked the YPVS ) but now the spindly forks and skinny tyres don't do it for me so changing them for RGV, GSXR or whatever keeps its main looks but makes it a touch more modern looking! Just my opinion!  |
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Post by bryan on May 14, 2013 21:32:01 GMT 1
do what Martin and Seanlad has, right way up KR1S front end or early 3MA, looks standard at first glance and not big fat fork tubes like RGV forks and you dont loose as much steering lock. Im a mear mortal and cant feel my forks or frame flexing! ;D  |
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Post by bryan on May 14, 2013 22:08:40 GMT 1
Im quite liking this one though.  |
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Post by bryan on May 14, 2013 22:28:14 GMT 1
when you going to finnish the paint job?
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Post by skydemon on May 14, 2013 22:45:01 GMT 1
I do like it headcoats
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Post by JonW on May 15, 2013 1:20:47 GMT 1
haha, I like mine even better now that I realise other people hate the idea of these bikes.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 3:03:41 GMT 1
The red one is a beauty!
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Post by icarus001 on May 15, 2013 8:19:59 GMT 1
do what Martin and Seanlad has, right way up KR1S front end or early 3MA looks, standard at first glance and not big fat fork tubes like RGV forks and you dont loose as much steering lock. Im a mear mortal and cant feel my forks or frame flexing! ;D I only felt my forks flex when a car pulled out and I had to slam on, the bike weaved all over the place. That 3ma bike looks ok, but I'm back to my original question does it significantly improve the bike or is it just cosmetic. |
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Post by looey on May 15, 2013 8:43:08 GMT 1
I only felt my forks flex when a car pulled out and I had to slam on, the bike weaved all over the place. That 3ma bike looks ok, but I'm back to my original question does it significantly improve the bike or is it just cosmetic. You can't have done any fast riding with grippy tyres then, as you'd feel the whole bike twisting and squirming underneath you  . I've done several track days with completely std chassis and it feels like the bike is made of rubber..... you can feel it flexing everywhere, even at the rear. Stiffer forks, swingarm, better brakes and the ability for fit modern radial rubber makes a massive difference. The LC I've got now (though the engine's sick at the moment ) feels like riding a modern bike when you're pushing it along, 10 times more stable and composed    |
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Post by lcrider on May 15, 2013 11:17:38 GMT 1
I thing the RGV LC's look a little dumpy YPVS's with them fitted look nice but id sooner have the gun met set up above then the RGV on an LC any day
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Post by icarus001 on May 15, 2013 12:06:22 GMT 1
I only felt my forks flex when a car pulled out and I had to slam on, the bike weaved all over the place. That 3ma bike looks ok, but I'm back to my original question does it significantly improve the bike or is it just cosmetic. You can't have done any fast riding with grippy tyres then, as you'd feel the whole bike twisting and squirming underneath you . I've done several track days with completely std chassis and it feels like the bike is made of rubber..... you can feel it flexing everywhere, even at the rear. Stiffer forks, swingarm, better brakes and the ability for fit modern radial rubber makes a massive difference. The LC I've got now (though the engine's sick at the moment ) feels like riding a modern bike when you're pushing it along, 10 times more stable and composed I'm not keen on the bars but otherwise that looks really nice. PM coming your way to get the spec...... |
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Post by looey on May 15, 2013 12:16:38 GMT 1
I'm not keen on the bars but otherwise that looks really nice. PM coming your way to get the spec...... What do you mean "not keen on the bars" !!! , they are the only bars for a modified old-skool LC  ;D ;D |
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Post by icarus001 on May 15, 2013 12:22:17 GMT 1
I'm not keen on the bars but otherwise that looks really nice. PM coming your way to get the spec...... What do you mean "not keen on the bars" !!! , they are the only bars for a modified old-skool LC ;D ;D Just the colour, thats all ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 12:24:22 GMT 1
lol @ looey
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Post by looey on May 15, 2013 12:25:09 GMT 1
They were all I had in-stock when I changed them from the high Renthals that were fitted previously and I didn't want to part with any more £££ ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 12:27:09 GMT 1
I have put renthals on my bike and it does feel a lot more planted than when it had standard bars
could be ny imagination though ;D ;D
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Post by looey on May 15, 2013 12:35:26 GMT 1
The lower/flatter the bars, the more weight it puts over the front and I find the bike more planted and easier to hussle about with the flats. Renthal Ultra-low are the only other option over standard I reckon. With the higher braced Renthals mine had on it previously, it was like riding a trials bike and makes the front a bit nervous over bumps when you're pushing it. Each to their own though |
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Post by icarus001 on May 15, 2013 12:40:15 GMT 1
I'd planned to use Renthal street fighter bars.
I've just spent the last couple of years racing motocross, so slightly higher bars than the ultra-lows would probably feel ok to me.
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Post by looey on May 15, 2013 12:41:47 GMT 1
Wonna buy my old ones ?......lol
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Post by icarus001 on May 15, 2013 12:47:47 GMT 1
Wonna buy my old ones ?......lol I haven't decided exactly what I'm doing with it yet, its currently in the garage being MOT'ed, if that turns out bad I'll be concentrating on just getting it roadworthy first Once its MOT'd I then need to get it registered (its a German import)....so I've got a bit of hassle to get through before I start throwing parts at it. I'm just weighing up my options. |
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Post by alext on May 15, 2013 16:54:55 GMT 1
the other option is FZR400 parts...  the front fits on with only the lock-stops needing changed (and different bearings). the rear fits in with minimal work. I think the banana-arm is too long and makes the bike look too stretched - personally I LOVE USD front-ends, although in reality the 43mm forks I have on mine now are probably way-stronger than the headstock...... |
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Post by bryan on May 15, 2013 17:17:40 GMT 1
got thge ultra low rise Renthal bars on mine.  |
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