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Post by lckid on Oct 10, 2011 19:29:40 GMT 1
Guys ive just took delivery of a pair of small can Gibson exhausts for my 375LC, BUT after inspection im not that happy with the chrome finish around the midsection welds it looks like the chrome has no flowed into the weld properly and left very small gaps anyone else had this problem (this is only on x1 pipe) and am i being picky or should i send the pipe back and ask for it to be rechromed?  |
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Post by soccersmyth on Oct 10, 2011 19:40:09 GMT 1
Ring em up.
Give them a chance to rectify.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 22:43:50 GMT 1
I acquired a pair of large can ones a few years back. They were second hand but you could see they had never been on a bike. They were cool but not a great chrome finish around the welds. Difficult to do maybe, I am no chroming expert but these pipes tend to be a lot of wedge which entitles everyone to be picky.
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Post by JonW on Oct 10, 2011 22:48:06 GMT 1
I would think the chroming is done offsite by a 2nd company so they might even be happy if you tell that what youve found as they can improve their product. Always worth ringing them up...
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 11, 2011 8:48:01 GMT 1
Hi,
Last set I had from them had a lot of black polish in the pits of the weld that you could not get out and some chrome around the welds and brackets was goldish as if not taken properly.
It is dificult to plate strange shapes but remember it was only £50 a pipe to chrome so done to a price. Try getting quotes for it and you will see how expensive it is.
I'd speak to them and see what they say, had a slight problem with mine and to be fair they were keen to sort but I decided to put up with it instead of waiting another 6 weeks.
Steve
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Post by davey on Oct 11, 2011 11:05:21 GMT 1
call em mate, im waiting for a set at the moment so i will give them a good check also but i didnt go for the finish ive ordered them bare as i want to paint em or chrome them independedly.
TBH at the price and waiting time i would want and expect a top job
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Post by Norbo on Oct 11, 2011 13:12:35 GMT 1
They wont want any bad press mate if you call them im sure they will redo it . if the welds were smooth in the first place the chrome would have been ok its only when you get holls and courners that chrome wont allways get in there. its a funny thing chrome. On side stands it chromes everything but at the back of the foot plate its often real thin or nothing at all . I never could get my head around that as its a solution that wets everything.
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Post by tsa on Oct 11, 2011 15:29:55 GMT 1
Im with the others give them the chance to put it right. But they should have checked the finish before sending them out. We all make mistakes though we are but human.
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Post by lckid on Oct 11, 2011 22:37:06 GMT 1
Im with the others give them the chance to put it right. But they should have checked the finish before sending them out. We all make mistakes though we are but human. Exactly that's the trouble, they said that they had checked them, maybe they thought it was exceptable??? They said try to polish the black bits out (tried but no go) but said its copper underneath so shouldn't affect the chrome finish  BUT did say to send them back and they would either polish them up or get them back to the chromers but did suggest that the finish wouldn't be as bright second time around  So I'm sending them back tomorrow, I know chroming is an expensive business but if the people who dipped them took more care in what they were doing I wouldn't have this problem now  |
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Post by tsa on Oct 11, 2011 23:00:42 GMT 1
This is one reason I dont want to get involved with chrome pipes, if the customer wants chrome then they can get them done as cheaply as I can and its not a headache for me or a situation thats out of my control.
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Post by lckid on Oct 12, 2011 20:29:16 GMT 1
This is one reason I dont want to get involved with chrome pipes, if the customer wants chrome then they can get them done as cheaply as I can and its not a headache for me or a situation thats out of my control. Well i had to go to a job today in Romford so i took the pipes down to Gibson (nice guys by the way) to show them they had a look at them and said that the chrome was done to a price and sometimes theres imperfections BUT to there credit they did offer to build some more pipes for me but couldn't garantee the chrome would not have the same little black bits around some of the welds so i decided to keep them and to be honest they are good for the price. |
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Post by tsa on Oct 12, 2011 22:03:15 GMT 1
This is one reason I dont want to get involved with chrome pipes, if the customer wants chrome then they can get them done as cheaply as I can and its not a headache for me or a situation thats out of my control. Well i had to go to a job today in Romford so i took the pipes down to Gibson (nice guys by the way) to show them they had a look at them and said that the chrome was done to a price and sometimes theres imperfections BUT to there credit they did offer to build some more pipes for me but couldn't garantee the chrome would not have the same little black bits around some of the welds so i decided to keep them and to be honest they are good for the price. If you dont mind me asking how much were they? |
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Post by Wez350 on Oct 14, 2011 12:19:49 GMT 1
Kenny their prices are the website www.gibsonexhausts.co.ukI know the guys very well at Gibson's and can tell you they don't send anything out they would not be happy to use themselves. Chroming is not something they can do and is sent to a couple of companies they have used for years. Chroming is cheaper than most not because of quality, but because they get a lot done they can get a better price then you or me. Good to see you sorted it all out with them. As for waiting time, I've got my valve at theirs at the moment for a set of pipes. I've left it with them as I've got different footrests and swingarm so they can make the pipe fit exactly as I want them. They booked me in for a week to do them and I don't expect them to be done any quicker. Whilst it is there I am using their bench so I can get some parts out and get them to mirror polish it all for me at the same time. What you have to remember is they don't just build Allspeeds for LC's. They do many one-offs, fours strokes, etc. The exhausts only take a couple of days to build, but all the time I've known them they haven't been quiet enough to be waiting for the phone to ring  Everyone is told how long it will be when they call and no payment is asked for until the pipes ae ready to send out. So give them a break. This is only two guys trying to keep an old English brand alive. If you have a question or query why not call them? |
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Post by tsa on Oct 14, 2011 12:45:37 GMT 1
If they are WEZ its not easy to find thats for sure. Did you not want to take me up on that offer I PM'd you mate? |
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Post by gibsonexhausts on Oct 14, 2011 14:01:38 GMT 1
Hello Everyone Thanks for letting me know the prices are not on the website at the moment. I will get onto our website guy and see where they have disappered to There is loads of combinations and choices when it comes to the exhausts, but to keep it simple here is the more populare ones. LC or YPVS or RD E £***pr bare or £***pr chromed RD125LC £*** bare or £*** chromed FS1E £***pr bare or £*** chromed Triples (GT, KH) £*** bare or £*** chromed These are all the Allspeed style, small or large can type. Also now available the Micron small cans as well. All the same price. Price includes fittings, springs, wadded ready to go. Postage is £** within the UK and £** within Europe. The detachable can style are £***pr bare inc alloy cans. then you can add chromed, black chrome and/or carbon cans. Or we can sell them without cans at a reduced price. The hydro formed pipes are £***pr in normal one each side style. We can make these in GP style as well at £***pr. This includes alloy cans and same applies for finish as detachable cans. All of these prices are for the pipes in Mild Steel. We can of course make them in S/S for you as well if required. Prices vary to exhaust, but as an example LC Allspeeds are £***pr. This is mirror polished ready to use. We can leave them in an unpolished finish for £***. Any other queries? Just to answer a couple of the myths surrounding the pipes. We don't wait to make them in batches at all. Every order taken is put on a list and made in order of date taken. If we get to a set of LC pipes and there is another 4 ordered, then yes we will make 5 seats at once. So sometimes if you was the last person to order a set you will be lucky and get them quicker. Nothing on purpose, just is easier to make a few at once. But if there is only 1 set on order, then we will make just set. Why do we not have them on the shelf? Would love to sit here and have them ready to send out to you. But in the real world there just isin't the demand there was in the 1980's to mass produce these pipes. Plus there is so many combinations, it is impossible to guess what people will want before they order them. I have 3 sets of LC pipes hanging here now to go to the chromers. 1 set is for a banshee engine, 1 set were made to fit aftermarket footrest hangers and the last set to suit a wider swingarm. So how could we of guessed these in advance? Chroming! I hate it. It is a process that is out of our hands production wise. We can not do it in house, just too much required these days. Plus we are welders and frabricators, not platers. So better to leave something we don't do to the experts. We have searched the UK all over to get the best price and finish we can for our customers. We do realise you can get better, but have found no one wants to pay £300 pr to have them chromed. We sell them in bare so if anyone has a good chromers they trust then the option is there for you to have it done. The chrome we have done is not done cheap, it is done by a very long established company that does plating work for several exhaust companies. So we feel this is the good quality and a fair price. We do not make anything on chroming, it is done as most people what the finish. So yes would love to never have to do it again. But any problems we will always go back to the chromers to see what can be done. But we have very little problems. There is just two of us here full time. Yes back in the 1980's it was a factory in Romford. But these days is alot smaller business. So it does take time to book you in. We could try and get more staff, but then costs would rise. With rent, rates, electric, liability insurance, H & S costs of running a business in the UK is enough already. Please remember we are a registered company. We have often felt we would make more money if we closed down and worked out of a double garage at home. But we don't want to work like this. It is a company that has been around for over 30 years and one we are proud to be running all these years later. Is there VAT? No we are not a VAT registered business, so the prices quoted are the final price. How do we pay? As a registered UK business we have credit/debit card facilities. o you can pay via phone or in person. Of course we can take cash as well if your in the area. I hope this clears up a few questions and myths. We are an open business, you are more than welcome to visit us anytime your near and you can see your pipes being made. We are more than welcome to visit, the kettle is always on. Anything more you need to know? You can get us on 01708 372122. Or drop me an email. Tony Gibson Exhausts Ltd |
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Post by mellow on Oct 14, 2011 14:41:32 GMT 1
Very informative That must answer all questions lol.Bet it took a while  |
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Post by Norbo on Oct 14, 2011 17:23:44 GMT 1
I do like small can speeds on LC;s i have a set fitted one of mine . they sit a lot better then Microns
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Post by mellow on Oct 14, 2011 18:37:52 GMT 1
i like them.they do look like microns |
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Post by Wez350 on Oct 14, 2011 19:39:19 GMT 1
If they are WEZ its not easy to find thats for sure. Did you not want to take me up on that offer I PM'd you mate? Hi mate sorry been moving again and they where on there last time i looked  I have just seen your pm will pm you back. |
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Post by stanlc7189 on Oct 16, 2011 9:53:43 GMT 1
I've got a set on my 350LC and the chrome work is superb! As for the service, it's excellent, I phoned them up for a spare exhaust spring and they sent them out the following day. I wouldn't go anywhere else as far as exhaust go.
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Post by gibsonexhausts on Oct 26, 2011 11:44:23 GMT 1
Sorry guys removed my prices from the post regarding people's confusion of our prices. I didn't realise it came across as an advert, it was never meant to be. Just a reply to someones request for them.
Didn't want to upset anyone and sorry to the person who complained about this.
I have updated our website now, so the prices should be visable on there now. Otherwise just drop me an email or call if you want more information.
Tony
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So I'm sending them back tomorrow, I know chroming is an expensive business but if the people who dipped them took more care in what they were doing I wouldn't have this problem now 
Everyone is told how long it will be when they call and no payment is asked for until the pipes ae ready to send out. 
I have just seen your pm will pm you back.