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Post by charles13 on Feb 4, 2024 1:23:43 GMT 1
What is this? Some sort of climate action against from Khan towards motorcyclists? I thought bikes where some sort of rite of passage in Britain, why do our governments continue to go after the common people? I’m really not liking the sound of this because what happens there comes to Canada next
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Post by geoffers997 on Feb 4, 2024 1:37:22 GMT 1
If you’re talking about these guys: mag-uk.org/Then they are a campaign group for bikers rights. They started 40+ years ago campaigning against helmet laws
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Post by charles13 on Feb 4, 2024 23:26:03 GMT 1
If you’re talking about these guys: mag-uk.org/Then they are a campaign group for bikers rights. They started 40+ years ago campaigning against helmet laws Sorry, yes I guess it was those guys but I guess what I wanted to ask was: about Sid Khan banning motorcycles from London and this groups work to counter that completely absurd decision.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 4, 2024 23:44:09 GMT 1
The clue is in his name. He's a total fekkin khan...
Alex
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Post by panzermatt on Feb 5, 2024 12:18:45 GMT 1
khan is a fraud, he only ever got in because he is a muslim. He doesnt understand British culture, nor does he want to. but the demographics of london mean he is there to stay.
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Post by charles13 on Feb 8, 2024 13:05:36 GMT 1
Just a follow up; the EU is set to ratify their fit for 55 into law in which; they plan to ban any vehicles over 15 years old. We have to get rid of these climate lunatics.
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Post by JonW on Feb 8, 2024 13:15:38 GMT 1
I dont think that will fly. Many EU countries are poor and the populations wont be owners of only 'young-ish' vehicles.
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Post by peter1962 on Feb 8, 2024 13:29:58 GMT 1
That being the case then, they can buy my bike off me (350 4l0) for £20.000, or there about's so i can get an elecki bike, plus they can dispose of my bike aswell for free.
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Post by charles13 on Feb 8, 2024 16:10:11 GMT 1
I dont think that will fly. Many EU countries are poor and the populations wont be owners of only 'young-ish' vehicles. Don’t underestimate the power of the people, an interesting watch though will be Governor Gavin Newsome of California, who has started sending officials around to document all the custom cars and their owners.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 8, 2024 22:48:27 GMT 1
I have a feeling if they try to ban vehicles over 15 years old we'll finally wake up and start to act like the French do. Ignore it and drive them anyway. Cameras? Destroy them. Clamps? Cut them off. Cops try to impound your vehicle? Thousands descending where you are to stop them.
Plus it'll never get past the house of lords as they all drive classics...hence the historic thing...
Alex
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 9, 2024 0:00:20 GMT 1
Been thinking about this. If a vehicle's life span is 15 years consider this. Let's say punter A buys a new car for, say, £30K. 10 years later with a perfectly working car he decides to sell as in 5 years it'll be scrap. Punter B buys it for maybe £3k knowing it's a disposable product and will spend zero on maintaining what was a good car. 4 years later he gives it away to someone who can't afford a car. By then it's falling apart and with no MOT. This chap drives it into the ground and then abandon s it never having taxed or insured it...and why would he? Cars are now a disposable item like a cheap cigarette lighter.
We all know that an old car or bike is WAY greener than some new cheap craporama vehicle that gets spunked out every second and sells for bonkers money and by implementing this 15 year act they are increasing the greenhouse effect considerably.
Or are the general public so blinkered by this that they'd agree with it? Have we all been numbed into submission by the likes of Ant and Dec and fast food delivered to your door, the garbage that counts for 'music' these days?
Maybe I'm a fossil. Maybe I realise that we are all being conned.
Rant over.
Alex
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Post by charles13 on Feb 9, 2024 3:17:46 GMT 1
I have a feeling if they try to ban vehicles over 15 years old we'll finally wake up and start to act like the French do. Ignore it and drive them anyway. Cameras? Destroy them. Clamps? Cut them off. Cops try to impound your vehicle? Thousands descending where you are to stop them. Plus it'll never get past the house of lords as they all drive classics...hence the historic thing... Alex I really hope so because here in Canada we are just like a bunch of passive mice who let them experiment with us, I have lived my whole life just to care and pamper my old motorcycles and trucks and it would kill me to give them up or even be prohibited from insuring or driving them, let alone ownership! I have seen Canada quickly adopt European laws, regulations or even ideals that are centered around climate change.
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Post by charles13 on Feb 9, 2024 23:52:54 GMT 1
I found some more about it, this is a conference on the future of ice motorcycles “from Britain”
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Post by JonW on Feb 10, 2024 1:29:14 GMT 1
The world is currently resisting electric cars (for many reasons like cost, resale, battery issues, range, longevity etc) so this, even if its a blip, will lengthen any full move to electric.
In Harry Metcalf's latest video hes gone back to a diesel and reminds people that normal domestic vehicles emit something like only 7% of the CO2, making us all electric and using green sourced power wont fix the world etc.
I still dont see petrol bikes being 'banned' outright for the forseable future, in cities maybe but even then i doubt it. the pollution is low as a mode of transport and even smaller in the scheme of things.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 10, 2024 22:40:23 GMT 1
We know it's 7% but the majority of the poplace assume ICE is the root of all the pollution. Planes, factories and coal are the causes yet the countries with vast as yet untapped coal will continue to use them. China, Russia, Canada and Australia. Even us. So the 'powers' that be have to be seen to be doing something. Hence electric bollocks and trying to ban cars and bikes over 15 years old. One day journalist will have the guts to outright say this to Sunak (sounds Vulcan but with less emotions) and get the f**king b*****d to actually answer the question instead of saying something else.
Alex
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Post by steve h on Feb 10, 2024 23:45:45 GMT 1
I love the smell of burning coal in the morning.
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Post by JonW on Feb 11, 2024 0:41:59 GMT 1
As an aside... Ive been noticing that over time the standard of driving has dropped worldwide (well the places Ive travelled so not a full investigation lol).
Its also getting harder and harder to take any driving test, with more Learner hours needed and long wait times. This is to improve awareness but also to dissuade new drivers... governments want people to use public transport (which is often non existent or a poor service currently).
With cars that drive themselves just around the corner (depending on who you believe), it wont be long before the majority of the population go that route.
For those who like driving there will be a honeymoon period where those who hate driving and the bad drivers are off the road and things improve... and then it'll all come crashing down with the new era when anyone driving themselves will be priced out of the market when trying to insure themselves to do that as humans are a bad risk.
In 50 years the next generations will look back with horror at how humans were allowed to drive 1.5 tonne plus of metal around just feet from pedestrians. They will consider that we were all mad and no wonder deaths were so high on the roads. In the same way we look back at other things from the olden era.
Like with all these looming stupid plans; Enjoy what you have now, while you still can.
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Post by JonW on Feb 11, 2024 0:44:08 GMT 1
I love the smell of burning coal in the morning. Steve, I was thinking about this in a wider context. People generally dont complain (many have no idea and just follow the herd) and let the govts green wash policies come into play, like with the 2030/5 'all cars are electric' thing. This is like the old forcing people to use public transport that is not in place yet, ie there was/is no real idea of how to make enough green power for this scenario.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 11, 2024 0:46:27 GMT 1
You are quite right Jon. I need a TARDIS to go maybe 100 years into the future. What would the world look like? And did it survive at all?
Alex
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Post by JonW on Feb 11, 2024 1:45:40 GMT 1
You are quite right Jon. I need a TARDIS to go maybe 100 years into the future. What would the world look like? And did it survive at all? Alex Yes, totally. I used to be amused when you'd see a Blade Runner'esque future where things were still grubby and even the tech was old. ie the massive screens on buildings were on the blink and you needed a thump to get the auto sliding door to open. I felt this would reflect a more 'real world' future, as I sadly didnt expect everything to be as clean and functional as the 70s scifi would have us believe. Ive found we are already here. The 'turn it off and on again' attitude prevails in all tech now, even airplanes and other places you wish it wouldnt. I often see screens with error messages on walls and connections errors. We recently had an almost full day outage here of one of our telco networks, the world it seemed had basically ended. A snack bar place I go to here had an amusing price change on one of their 3 TV screens over/behind the counter. They had stuck pieces of ripped paper with stickytape detailing the new prices over the areas on the screen where the old price was on all their burgers, ie on top of the fancy screen image. lol
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Post by JonW on Feb 11, 2024 1:51:34 GMT 1
In the vein of looking back with shock... MAG fought the helmet law. As an issue of freedom not safety. Apparently. I remember it at the time, but looking back...
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