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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 31, 2023 23:59:10 GMT 1
I've had new allspeeds I had to file the hanger hole š
Steve
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 0:27:10 GMT 1
I've had new allspeeds I had to file the hanger hole š Steve But hidden when they mount on the inside of the hanger, like the ones on my 350 š¤·š¼āāļø
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 1, 2024 0:36:19 GMT 1
I've had new allspeeds I had to file the hanger hole š Steve But hidden when they mount on the inside of the hanger, like the ones on my 350 š¤·š¼āāļø True I don't get why they did it that way. Their ypvs pipes have an offset bracket on the pipe so mounts behind the hanger Steve
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Post by JonW on Jan 1, 2024 1:36:25 GMT 1
The hanger could easily be made to stand out from the edge and be braced, rather than come up from where it is now. It would take 30 secs more welding and a little more steel plate, so a couple of quid... but would then sit behind the footrest... like it should. This has always bugged me with these pipes right from their launch. It just looks 'wrong'... cos it is.
I'm pleased people still make stuff for our bikes, but as Mark pointed out they say they fit without need for mods and yet they dont. Thats not right according to their own website.
This is a bit like the Yambits complaints, people see this as wrong all the time yet i suspect Del and his mates will tell you no one ever complained before... hmm...
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 1, 2024 9:26:50 GMT 1
Gotta agree. That is just poor. I would have sent them back. I get that the headers benefit from a tight fit and might be tricky to bolt on because of that, but the rear mounts not lining up , and looking shite because of that, is just not acceptable to me. It's a shame coz they are good looking pipes on an Lc, imo, but they should fit without modding, and that rear bracket is just cheap and nasty Dusty
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 10:33:58 GMT 1
Gotta agree. That is just poor. I would have sent them back. I get that the headers benefit from a tight fit and might be tricky to bolt on because of that, but the rear mounts not lining up , and looking shite because of that, is just not acceptable to me. It's a shame coz they are good looking pipes on an Lc, imo, but they should fit without modding, and that rear bracket is just cheap and nasty Dusty Iām a bit annoyed at myself for filing them as they probably wonāt allow a returnā¦. I have emailed them so will update the thread when they respond. I messaged someone one fb who had fitted a set: they fitted the collars to the exhaust first then forced the rear hanger bolt through. They look neater than mine but I reckon they will fracture as they will be under stress constantlyā¦.. The same lad said he couldnāt slide the pipes out without unbolting from the barrel. Maybe itās just me, I like things to work as the design intended and I can remove mine in ten minutes now.
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 10:39:29 GMT 1
I am considering bending the mounting tab so itās under the hanger bracket, then making another L bracket to bolt to that and on to the back of the hanger. Hopefully it wonāt snap off when I bend it?? If it does break, I was also considering chopping it below the level of the hanger and putting another dome head m10 nut through the remaining bit which would then also go through a spacer tube and then another drop bracket onto the tube from the back hanger but it may look too fussy? Anyone got any other suggestions š¤
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 1, 2024 11:03:35 GMT 1
Could you space out the actual footrest hangers a bit, to save stressing the bracket as much ? Far from ideal I know, and you wouldn't choose to do it, but even a couple of mm might save some pain.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 1, 2024 11:36:28 GMT 1
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That's what I intended to try as mine will be a hybrid anyway
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 1, 2024 11:37:09 GMT 1
How close are they to the swinger/wheel spindle anyway
Steve
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Post by jon on Jan 1, 2024 11:43:45 GMT 1
I mentioned on the previous thread about ill fitting of these that I really donāt like the design of the flanges as I think they donāt pull up squarely. This will lead to all sorts of alignment problems at the rear.
Whether they admit it or not the more feedback they get both directly and on forums like this will hopefully lead to a better product if they can be bothered? Unfortunately for me Yambits may hide behind saying āno-one has complained beforeā to try and appease someone that is not in the know, but that is blatantly untrue based on previous posts on forums like these.
Jon
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Post by stevesmith on Jan 1, 2024 12:56:45 GMT 1
Just my pennies worth - I'd have sent them back.
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Post by lcmarky on Jan 1, 2024 13:28:55 GMT 1
I bought them based on price to be honest. & that is the only reason these Delkevic pipes sell apart from looking like Allspeeds.. As said above, I'd throw them back at them despite the fact you tried to make them work with a file.. They should fit - simples!
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Post by zig on Jan 1, 2024 13:31:39 GMT 1
I am considering bending the mounting tab so itās under the hanger bracket, then making another L bracket to bolt to that and on to the back of the hanger. Hopefully it wonāt snap off when I bend it?? If it does break, I was also considering chopping it below the level of the hanger and putting another dome head m10 nut through the remaining bit which would then also go through a spacer tube and then another drop bracket onto the tube from the back hanger but it may look too fussy? Anyone got any other suggestions š¤ that sounds like a tidy fix , just the way i would do it ZiG
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Post by liffy16 on Jan 1, 2024 14:13:11 GMT 1
I bought them based on price to be honest.Ā & that is the only reason these Delkevic pipes sell apart from looking like Allspeeds.. As said above, I'd throw them back at them despite the fact you tried to make them work with a file.. They should fit - simples! Yea it's a shame because chromed pipes for Ā£500 is a bargain in today's market
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 18:30:45 GMT 1
Could you space out the actual footrest hangers a bit, to save stressing the bracket as much ? Far from ideal I know, and you wouldn't choose to do it, but even a couple of mm might save some pain. Possibly yes, but once I am over this flu I am gonna bend the bracket and if it doesnāt snap, then itās easy to make a bracket to marry up at the back. Flu dependant, Iām back in work tomorrow so will mill a 5mm radius onto a piece of plate so I can form the bend radius. Will report backā¦..
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 18:32:45 GMT 1
How close are they to the swinger/wheel spindle anyway Steve Not bad to be fair, they sit in the same position of the standard pipes, near enough.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jan 1, 2024 18:40:21 GMT 1
Just read the thread Bill, I bet you are a bit gutted with the fit after the Xmas excitement of getting such a fabulous gift. It's probably a good job the wife didn't fit them for you!
Hope you get something sorted and you get to enjoy using them in the Spring.
HNY.
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Post by billyboy on Jan 1, 2024 21:15:19 GMT 1
I'd be tempted to get some heat into the bracket before bending it,would think the chrome will split anyway .
Love the old school looks of these and to be fair my allspeeds had issues where I had to file out the rear mounting hole, didn't clear the bellypan either on my 31k valve .
The mounting bracket on the wrong side of the footrest hanger is laughable for whoever designed/made the prototypes .
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Post by beardy on Jan 1, 2024 21:17:35 GMT 1
Just thinking out aloud. But considering the fact. That to get them to fit you had to file the bracket. Even if you hadnāt filed the hole and sent them back. That particular set would have probably been scrapped by Delkevic. So itās not like youāve ruined a perfectly fitting good set of pipes. Good luck with whatever you do šš»
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 1, 2024 21:35:04 GMT 1
Is the fit the same if you swap the flanges over?
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 23:24:44 GMT 1
I'd be tempted to get some heat into the bracket before bending it,would think the chrome will split anyway . Love the old school looks of these and to be fair my allspeeds had issues where I had to file out the rear mounting hole, didn't clear the bellypan either on my 31k valve . The mounting bracket on the wrong side of the footrest hanger is laughable for whoever designed/made the prototypes . Yep, definitely and thatās another reason I havenāt tried bending them yet: no gas in my blow torch and my heat gun has packed in (I got a replacement from Lidl which was great except it wouldnāt switch off!) If the chrome splits then I will paint them black (I may do this anyway)
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 23:25:24 GMT 1
Just thinking out aloud. But considering the fact. That to get them to fit you had to file the bracket. Even if you hadnāt filed the hole and sent them back. That particular set would have probably been scrapped by Delkevic. So itās not like youāve ruined a perfectly fitting good set of pipes. Good luck with whatever you do šš» Thanks.
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 23:26:17 GMT 1
Is the fit the same if you swap the flanges over? Yes, the flanges are the same. š
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Post by billbott on Jan 1, 2024 23:27:22 GMT 1
Just read the thread Bill, I bet you are a bit gutted with the fit after the Xmas excitement of getting such a fabulous gift. It's probably a good job the wife didn't fit them for you! Hope you get something sorted and you get to enjoy using them in the Spring. HNY. Thanks Shaun, and all the best for the new year to you too.
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 2, 2024 0:14:55 GMT 1
Bill...you've tried everything humanly possible to get these to work. Under the trade descriptions act they are not fit for purpose. Yes, at Ā£500 and chromed they seem a bargain...but if they don't do what they say on the tin...
Send 'em back as they are. I'd expect not only a full refund but an apology too.
Alex
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Post by JonW on Jan 2, 2024 0:33:25 GMT 1
I feel for ya Bill, these looks like a great set of pipes for the money, but the devil is in the detail as ever.
I think one could forgive the flange issues if the rear bracket wasnt such a dogs breakfast.
I doubt Delkevic will fix the bracket anytime soon, we've been talkin about the silly placing since they first launched these pipes and yet they still come with it as shown.
Certainly the 'promise' on the website as quoted above isnt the reality so its defo worth talking to them and seeing what they say with a view to them sending you a set that actually fit like the promised dream.
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 2, 2024 8:19:42 GMT 1
Why not speak to them in person before you do anymore modding ? I dont see the point of continually trying to find solutions on an exhaust that simply wont fit as it should. Potential breakage of the rear brackets and damage to the chrome will always be likely, and it will just look wrong. If you bought these second hand you might feel differently, but these were brand new and should bolt on without all the faff. I would give these up as a bad job and demand a replacement or my money back (preferable to me as I dont think replacements are gonna be any different). Go too far and you will be stuck with them Dusty
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Post by red998 on Jan 2, 2024 10:51:54 GMT 1
I agree with the comments above regarding fitment, they look quite poorly made and the welding looks quite bad in places, almost amateurish. Personally, as others have said, I would return them, although whether they would refund or replace them now seems possibly doubtful.
The outside fitting on the exhaust's rear looks terrible and ill-thought-out.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 2, 2024 13:18:48 GMT 1
My view is that for the money you pay compared to other chrome/retro pipes o can live with the rear hanger issue
Allspeeds welding isn't any better. The chrome on my Delkevics is better than my small cans
Yes you can buy Alonze or the like but you won't have chrome or stainless, just mild steel you will have to paint or pay another Ā£250 for Cerakote
They are also quite like the old bean can microns so nothing else looks like them
A lot of stuff on an LC is about the look, nothing more
As I've said, I'll space out my hangers or mill the footplates to make them splay outward and allow the pipes to fit on the inside
Steve
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