fabiostar
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Post by fabiostar on Aug 21, 2023 13:20:46 GMT 1
i really do think its broken and the huggy woke human rights brigade have taken over..
that scum bag Luzy Letby convicted of killing babies doesnt even have to turn up in court to hear the judge of face the families??? is it just our criminal system thats broken??
does killing babies not sign away any rights you have?
disgraceful really is.
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Post by evochris on Aug 21, 2023 13:40:24 GMT 1
Totally agree, should be placed in front of the families and the world for all to see. Hanging would be too good. Also annoying that she will be immortalised in every social media outlet going and in world history. Grrrrr. Been saying it for years, world is broken, UK is broken, civil unrest is coming.
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Post by arrow on Aug 21, 2023 13:56:16 GMT 1
And also, she lived about 700 meters from my parents. Some guy that still lives in the same road has been on a local version of facebook, disgusted that people have been rolling up all times of the day and taking selfies ect in front of the house.
I have no words....but broken world indeed.
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Post by headcoats on Aug 21, 2023 14:18:01 GMT 1
The law needs to change where they refuse to leave their cells for sentencing ffs
Handcuffed behind their backs and 2 burly guards to drag them kicking and screaming to court
What's wrong with that
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Post by veg on Aug 21, 2023 19:12:50 GMT 1
Had the same problem with nonces. These are offenders, convicted offenders they stopped having empathy and rights when they took away the rights of the innocent.
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Post by steve h on Aug 21, 2023 21:09:29 GMT 1
Only evidence against her is circumstantial.... amazing how long it took those around her to twig it.... A strange case and possibly not over?
There were thousands of kids killed, and the culprit is still at large. The evidence is well known....that he lied to a nation and involved us in an illegal war.
And the outcome?
A knighthood.
Now thats real evidence of how broken things are.
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 21, 2023 21:37:38 GMT 1
The world has always been broken. It's just that modern media is everywhere nowadays and in your face 24/7.
Alex
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Post by fabiostar on Aug 22, 2023 12:12:40 GMT 1
Well i see at least the tramp got the rest of her life in prison, im sure the ladies in that prison will make her time comfortable every day for killing babies...
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Post by chrisg on Aug 22, 2023 15:44:04 GMT 1
Well i see at least the tramp got the rest of her life in prison, im sure the ladies in that prison will make her time comfortable every day for killing babies... Just putting it out there, would you hang her? I think if you watched all those poor little babies die in extruciating pain, then i think it would be a yes, assuming that it is a 100% safe conviction. |
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Post by Robbieben on Aug 22, 2023 15:45:56 GMT 1
Well i see at least the tramp got the rest of her life in prison, im sure the ladies in that prison will make her time comfortable every day for killing babies... Just putting it out there, would you hang her? I think if you watched all those poor little babies die in extruciating pain, then i think it would be a yes, assuming that it is a 100% safe conviction. Not necessarily hang her but certainly a death sentence befits the crime in my view. |
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 22, 2023 17:51:01 GMT 1
The reality is she will probably spend very little time around the "general population" in prison.
We have a Category A Womens prison (Bronzefield) in my town, and my job in the Fire Service took me there many times for familiarization visits, and incidents. Rosemary West was there for 2 years. The system doesn't keep high profile "lifers" anywhere for too long apparently. Whilst she was there, she had a cell with it's own caged exercise area that was clad in metal sheeting, so no one could see in or out, and it meant she could be out of her cell without mixing with the other inmates. She was also moved around the site when other inmates weren't about, and a Prison officer was next to her at all times. The main control room had photos of the high profile inmates on the wall, with their names underneath, but Rose West's photo didn't exist - on purpose, so just her name. The staff protected her at all times, so the chances of Letby getting "chiv'd " in the showers with a sharpened tooth brush are minimal I think.
Dusty
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Post by panzermatt on Aug 22, 2023 18:02:02 GMT 1
here's my 2 cents, either use her for experiments, or kill her. because in prison she will get 4 squares a day, pudding included, christmas dinner, etc a host of people asking her questions, so she feels important, she can listen to music, will never have to wait for medical care. basically not a care in the world. and that is not right.
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Post by veg on Aug 22, 2023 18:02:44 GMT 1
Spot on dusty. She will have a dedicated Mappa officer ( multi agency public protection arrangement) which will liase with the local authority mappa co-ordinator. They will formulate a risk assessment plan in line with the prison and what is available. It’ll be tightly focussed and only after time when the risk diminishes to her (if it ever does) will they look at relaxing the assessment.
At this point she is an oxygen thief. Guaranteed she will appeal her sentence. Whole life tariff unlikely to ever be repealed she may however take the easy way out.
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Post by veg on Aug 22, 2023 18:06:51 GMT 1
here's my 2 cents, either use her for experiments, or kill her. because in prison she will get 4 squares a day, pudding included, christmas dinner, etc a host of people asking her questions, so she feels important, she can listen to music, will never have to wait for medical care. basically not a care in the world. and that is not right. Too easy I’d do a full psychological assessment to work out what she is motivated by, some want life at all cost, some will not see the point in existence without freedom. The death sentence for me depends on what they place value on, if she doesn’t value life without freedom then she lives etc. |
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 22, 2023 21:42:59 GMT 1
Death sentence. Oh my. But Tim has got it right. She has got a death sentence. No freedom at all. No walks in the park, no drinking, steak will be a fantasy, no sex. NOTHING except a life of pure monotony. And that ain't a life, that's a living death.
Alex
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fabiostar
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Post by fabiostar on Aug 23, 2023 16:36:48 GMT 1
Well i see at least the tramp got the rest of her life in prison, im sure the ladies in that prison will make her time comfortable every day for killing babies... Just putting it out there, would you hang her? I think if you watched all those poor little babies die in extruciating pain, then i think it would be a yes, assuming that it is a 100% safe conviction. not just hang her but make it a public hanging, just dont tell her when its happening but let her wait wondering each day. make her suffer like those babies did.. |
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Post by davecroucher57v on Aug 23, 2023 18:00:40 GMT 1
death by small spoons.
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Post by jon on Aug 23, 2023 18:12:35 GMT 1
Well i see at least the tramp got the rest of her life in prison, im sure the ladies in that prison will make her time comfortable every day for killing babies... Just putting it out there, would you hang her? I think if you watched all those poor little babies die in extruciating pain, then i think it would be a yes, assuming that it is a 100% safe conviction. On a serious note. I honestly think that the option of a death sentence ought to be available to those convicted that choose it. Some might not want life in jail, but haven’t got the means or bottle to commit suicide. As long as it was humane and properly controlled it would save the country tens of thousands of pounds each one. Jon |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 23, 2023 18:15:44 GMT 1
Nobody going to suggest injecting her with air daily, waiting for her to go into cardiac arrest then bringing her back 🤔
Steve
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Post by fabiostar on Aug 23, 2023 20:09:03 GMT 1
Nobody going to suggest injecting her with air daily, waiting for her to go into cardiac arrest then bringing her back 🤔 Steve boom we have a winner lol |
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Post by chrisg on Aug 23, 2023 20:28:21 GMT 1
Maybe just put her in a room with the parents of all the little babies that she murdered?
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Post by dougw on Aug 24, 2023 15:22:46 GMT 1
Warning . Controversial opinion approaching.
Nobody has the right to take another's life.
Be that an individual or a state taking the life.
Whether they "deserve" it or not.
To a twisted mind , what's the difference between a state killing someone, or an individual who feels justified ?
There is a reason the justice system is separated from the victims.
I would quite probably personally do things that I shouldn`t to anybody that hurt any of my family or friends.
( I`m not talking about war here, different debate)
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 24, 2023 21:23:59 GMT 1
Kill one person, you're a murderer. Kill a million and you are a conqueror. Kill them all and you're a god. Idiotic to me as it still makes you a murderer. However I too think the taking of a life is taboo.
Did anyone work out if this woman is insane? She seems like it to me.
Alex
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Post by chrisg on Aug 24, 2023 22:34:22 GMT 1
Kill one person, you're a murderer. Kill a million and you are a conqueror. Kill them all and you're a god. Idiotic to me as it still makes you a murderer. However I too think the taking of a life is taboo. Did anyone work out if this woman is insane? She seems like it to me. Alex I do think all humans have the capacity kill, its just were all restained by society. 99% of people abide by these rules, but anyone can snap, its just under the surface in most people. A lot of soldiers take to it readily, once theve seen budies killed or maimed for life. |
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 24, 2023 23:07:11 GMT 1
You're quite right. I think we'd all kill to defend ourselves or our loved ones. I'm talking about killing for the sake of it. Or to justify the mob. The last person executed in the UK was in 1964 and it was abolished in 1969. Uproar at the time, mainly from the Daily Mail type. Nowadays if you ask someone if it should be reintroduced the answer is pretty much no. Apart from the same newspaper readers that is.
Alex
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Post by veg on Aug 24, 2023 23:22:03 GMT 1
You need to be able to differentiate between psychopathic, sociopathic and narcissistic. Lots of individuals you’d associate with being psychopaths are actually extreme narcissists. She probably feels emotions but her narcissistic traits mean she has control. I suspect this wasn’t about killing per se but about reviving the children for the status that gave her. Wow this kid was Ill but Lucy saved them. She is better than the surgeon/doctor it’s her sense of self.
Still f**ked up totally abhorrent. I personally don’t agree with the death penalty as that makes us no better than the offenders. However she can’t/won’t be cured and as I’ve said previously taking away her control will probably be more harmful to her.
However the rider to that statement is were it my child I would personally.
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