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Post by alankelly on Aug 19, 2023 7:16:59 GMT 1
Not sure but if you are historic registered are you not ulez exempt? Unfortunately not it would seem. A bit pointless being regarded as historic if they charge £12.50 every time I use it. Found this on the TFL website It’s weird I entered my 1977 CB400F which is registered as a historic vehicle and said I need to pay but the below says no? No doubt someone else here will be able to confirm if historic vehicles are exempt or does it all change later this month?
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Post by red998 on Aug 19, 2023 9:06:22 GMT 1
I hadn't seen the above and like others, I assumed I would have to pay. If historic vehicles really don't have to pay that would be a bit of a boon to collectors and myself as I have a classic car that is only a few years away from historic status.
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Post by beardy on Aug 19, 2023 18:38:20 GMT 1
Ok, that's clearly the way forward. I had my mixed antifreeze delivered today and will set to work on that next week. I live in London and I need to get a shift on as ULEZ will kick in on 29/08/23 and then it will cost me just to use the bike even for a quick ride (blat!). This brings me to something else. Does anyone know if ULEZ cameras only face forwards? As I read on another site someone questioned the fact that if they do, how would they pick up a motorcycle? I suspect, as they seem to have two cameras per unit, that they pick up front and back per side of the road. I am assuming, as in my case, if you just ride around the "block" if there are no cameras they cannot pick me up, could that be true? I’m not sure which way the cameras are pointing. Round my way they seem to come down as quickly as they go up. But to safeguard yourself from getting a £160? fine for not paying. It might be worth setting up the autopay account 👍🏻
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Post by stirling11 on Aug 19, 2023 19:03:42 GMT 1
The colour of any coolant is just that, colour, it makes no difference to the chemical make up of the product
Some people like to change colour so they know what year it went in their fleet, others just prefer a colour, whether it be R,G or B
The use of silicone hoses is dependent of what heat the cooling system is going to operate at, if they are extremely high then silicone bolt+ hoses need to be used
For other not so high temps EPDM hoses are fine, this is Euro 4 classification
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Post by alankelly on Aug 19, 2023 19:48:49 GMT 1
Not sure about all colours being the same Red and blue are different chemically and if you mix an OAT red with ethanol glycol blue you could damage your engine so not worth the risk
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Post by arrow on Aug 19, 2023 22:47:14 GMT 1
The colour of any coolant is just that, colour, it makes no difference to the chemical make up of the product Some people like to change colour so they know what year it went in their fleet, others just prefer a colour, whether it be R,G or B The use of silicone hoses is dependent of what heat the cooling system is going to operate at, if they are extremely high then silicone bolt+ hoses need to be used For other not so high temps EPDM hoses are fine, this is Euro 4 classification The colours denote different chemical packages. Just like colour coding on oil pumps. How else would you identify them, once in an engine?? Or are red and yellow oil pumps the same? The latest, (to my knowledge) VW coolant is G14. It's violet, to distinguish it from the previous version, G13 which is red.
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Post by red998 on Aug 20, 2023 8:03:42 GMT 1
With regard to the above, there seem to be conflicting messages here, parts of the TFL website say it is exempt but a check on the emissions TFL\Gov states it is not. This has been noted on other posts on the forum.
Apparently,any historic vehicle is supposed to be exempt except under specialised conditions like commercial vehicles etc.
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Post by alankelly on Aug 20, 2023 8:36:44 GMT 1
I presume as normal no two government systems are linked😔 so the government site just looks at the age of the vehicle and not it’s tax status so because it’s old it just presumed you need to pay
If I got a fine I would play stupid and contest it using the fact the TfL states historic vehicles are exempt on its website
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Post by red998 on Aug 20, 2023 9:05:21 GMT 1
As above, agreed. It also occurred to me that not all LC's are yet considered historic as some were made, from a quick check-up, to the production year of 1986/1987 which would mean these bikes are not exempt based on registration date.
Maybe that's why there is conflicting information as not all models throughout the production years are exempt under historical rules. My 1982 model only became fully exempt this year for the first time.
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Post by alankelly on Aug 20, 2023 9:10:46 GMT 1
Yes my CB400F is 1977 and is historic but gov site dated you have to pay hence why I checked the actual TfL site for correct facts
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Post by red998 on Aug 22, 2023 11:54:09 GMT 1
Changed my coolant over to ethylene glycol (blue) coolant after giving the engine a good flush and a couple of runs through the cooling system just filled with water. Quite a lot of pink tinting after the first flush but the second flush seem to get everything out.
I didn't notice any degrading of the silicone hoses and the temperature gauge seems to be working fine so I assume there is no damage to the brass of the temperature gauge. The inside of the radiator looked very clean and no signs of any debris were in the coolant when I drained it.
Hopefully, everything should be good now, coolant life is quoted as 3 years on the container with a shelf life of 5 years. This is for G11 antifreeze as quoted on the container.
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