red998
Drag-strip hero
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Post by red998 on Aug 2, 2023 14:05:24 GMT 1
I am very seriously thinking about getting another TZ trackbike again. I used to race TZ 250's in the mid 1980's and had several bikes finishing with a (1980's) TZ250 K which was brought up to L spec but not with a battery powered power valve setup. I had CC'd heads and barrels courtesy of Dave Akhurst who was a precision enginer and his work transformed the bike into a race winner. I'd be interested to know what anyone is now running and what particularly the sort of cost of upkeep is. These bikes used to eat parts, but just running it for trackdays might prove cheaper than my Ducati 748R which is a lot more powerful but very expensive when it goes wrong. The\A TZ is very easy to rebuild by comparison, with a decent manual for torque specs it's dead easdy to work on and on some circuits can easily compete with bigger bikes. My Suzuki RGV250 is quite fragile by comparison and blew three gearboxes in a year until I purchased an upgraded gearbox kit. The parts are ridiculous for a "road" bike and I need a more reliable and better alternative. I am not into 600's as having ridden one on track they seem to harder work than a TZ, maybe easier to ride up to a point though. My thinking now is that a TZ although smaller in capacity could\should be good for me as I get older and I can cope more with its weight at just about 100 kilos, which is less than a heavier bike of bigger capacity. Any input appreciated. Thanks
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Post by reedpete on Aug 2, 2023 18:16:29 GMT 1
Unless you planned to race in GP originals or something, a TZ track day bike would have much higher running costs than a FII type motor based bike. Or maybe look at a TRZ250 pastmaster spec race bike - that’s a fun package
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 2, 2023 19:26:51 GMT 1
I know when I've looked at Tz parts on ebay, they are crazy expensive Makes running a road bike look like pocket money !
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Post by reedpete on Aug 2, 2023 20:02:05 GMT 1
I know when I've looked at Tz parts on ebay, they are crazy expensive Makes running a road bike look like pocket money ! £1000 for set of gear clusters…
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Post by reedpete on Aug 2, 2023 20:03:11 GMT 1
These days the TZ engines are typically half the value of a bike no matter what year.
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Post by mellorp23 on Aug 3, 2023 6:14:36 GMT 1
TZ350 is a bit of an animal. Only the best riders can tame them. Very narrow power band and struggle to pass noise tests. A decent well set up LCII would be as quick. Handling is good but very 80's I run a TZ250 4TW/4DP hybrid thing. 1,000+ miles to a crank, 500+ miles on piston kits. Tyres, either slicks or Conti SM EVO last for ever. Piston kits are cheap. Cranks can be rebuilt. I use a TZR RS dry clutch bottom end. I used to have a wet clutch gearbox. 1st is useable as it's not super tall and it's much less fragile than a TZ gearbox. Compared to a full TZ engine it's as quick as a friends 4TW that runs a TZ gearbox. Of all the 2 strokes I use at track days, the TZ is the quickest sharpest lightest bike of the lot. It's a joy to ride. You don't even have to thrash it to go fast. Down side is I run 50:50 Avgas:Super unleaded although a small change to the heads would make it run super safe on super unleaded. Premix 747R at 40:1. That stuff sticks to anything and everything. I'm actually thinking of selling it along with a spare motor. And the big plus point - It has a V5 so you can ride it on the road !!! Road riding doesn't need Avgas. You can see the number plate in this picture :-) No TZ is cheap, but there is absolutely nothing like riding a TZ. It's the purest form of racing motorcycle ever. DSCF5156-(ZF-4663-80157-1-003) by Philip Mellor, on Flickr
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