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Post by billbott on Mar 29, 2023 14:58:57 GMT 1
So last year my 1981 Lc became eligible for historic status meaning zero tax. Took the v5 into my local post office and it took him two minutes, absolutely no problem. When I got my 1980 250 I sent off the v5 with my details plus filled in the box to change to historic and colour to white. It came back in my name but still wrong colour and not historic so thought I’d leave it until it was ready to use. This morning I went to the same post office and they couldn’t do it, kept asking for £47 to tax it?? Came back home, checked the gov website and was sure I was right. So I went to the next nearest post office and asked him, no problem, two minutes and I have a receipt to say it’s taxed it’s a new v5 to follow!! I think it’s down to the actual post office member of staff as to wether or not you can change it!
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Post by rigga on Mar 29, 2023 15:15:22 GMT 1
It's very much depending on who you encounter behind the counter.
Some are clued up, know exactly what's what, and everything is sorted quickly.
Mostly they are just not interested, computer says no type, and you're better off going elsewhere, or go back another time and hopefully find one who knows.
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Post by jon on Mar 29, 2023 18:23:53 GMT 1
It has to have historic status for tax free. If the V5 said it wasn’t perhaps the first person didn’t realise if you sent it off you could do it?
Jon
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Post by billbott on Mar 29, 2023 19:49:22 GMT 1
It has to have historic status for tax free. If the V5 said it wasn’t perhaps the first person didn’t realise if you sent it off you could do it? Jon He said he thought he could do it but computer wasn’t giving the option to change tax status. The second guy did it straight away, said he had done loads.
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Post by tout on Mar 29, 2023 20:02:37 GMT 1
so which Post Office mon do you prefer Bill ?
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Post by chrisg on Mar 29, 2023 21:02:57 GMT 1
I took my log book along with a v112 form to the main PO branch, but they never even looked at it. Just stamped part of the log book sending it off to the DVLA and gave me part of it back as receipt. It came back in about 6 weeks if i remember correctly. I think, as previously mentioned, it depends on the staff that deal with you.
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Post by billbott on Mar 29, 2023 22:13:18 GMT 1
so which Post Office mon do you prefer Bill ? They were both very helpful just the first one didn’t know how to sort it. He did spend an amount of time telling me about the bikes he’d owned though, maybe if he’d concentrated more on the job in hand......
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Post by linx on Mar 30, 2023 10:44:59 GMT 1
My YPVS turn 40 this year. So it will be interesting to see how I get on next year. Thanks for the info.
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Post by mouse on Mar 30, 2023 14:35:51 GMT 1
So, my 4LO was first registered November 1982.
I thought, that it now being 2023 that made it over 40 years old and i could just go to the post office and register it as a historic vehicle (wrongly as it transpired). Well, five post offices later, the last one points out that it has to have been first registered before February 1982!
I double checked this by phoning the DVLA who, confirmed that in April 2024 i can then register it as a historic vehicle. However i will have to tax it in February 2024 (as that is when it is due) and after registering for historic vehicle tax i can claim back my tax cost!
DVLA told me that all post offices are aware of and know all about this, er no they don't!
Suffice to say, this is not as simple as i thought, because when i go to register as a historic vehicle my bike will be 41 1/2 years old!
Mouse
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Post by chrisg on Mar 30, 2023 15:50:49 GMT 1
So, my 4LO was first registered November 1982. I thought, that it now being 2023 that made it over 40 years old and i could just go to the post office and register it as a historic vehicle (wrongly as it transpired). Well, five post offices later, the last one points out that it has to have been first registered before February 1982! I double checked this by phoning the DVLA who, confirmed that in April 2024 i can then register it as a historic vehicle. However i will have to tax it in February 2024 (as that is when it is due) and after registering for historic vehicle tax i can claim back my tax cost! DVLA told me that all post offices are aware of and know all about this, er no they don't! Suffice to say, this is not as simple as i thought, because when i go to register as a historic vehicle my bike will be 41 1/2 years old! Mouse I had to wait until the following April following its 40th birthday, so 40 1/2
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Post by headcoats on Mar 30, 2023 20:31:40 GMT 1
My bike was registered 12 11 82 and just got it on road again this month after sorned and on the online tax it told me my bike was mot exempt and it let me tax it Will have to wait till next April to be tax exempt though,so they make you wait another year
If I have that right 😆
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Post by loctite on Mar 31, 2023 20:01:48 GMT 1
So, my 4LO was first registered November 1982. I thought, that it now being 2023 that made it over 40 years old and i could just go to the post office and register it as a historic vehicle (wrongly as it transpired). Well, five post offices later, the last one points out that it has to have been first registered before February 1982! I double checked this by phoning the DVLA who, confirmed that in April 2024 i can then register it as a historic vehicle. However i will have to tax it in February 2024 (as that is when it is due) and after registering for historic vehicle tax i can claim back my tax cost! DVLA told me that all post offices are aware of and know all about this, er no they don't! Suffice to say, this is not as simple as i thought, because when i go to register as a historic vehicle my bike will be 41 1/2 years old! Mouse Try again tomorrow I myself have four to do
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 31, 2023 21:41:24 GMT 1
I was at my post office the other day and the very friendly woman there said her PC goes into meltdown when she tries to do this. She suggested amending the log book and sending it off to the DVLA. So I'll give that a try. My LC is a 1981 bike so all good to go historically wise.
Alex
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Post by dc on Apr 1, 2023 8:27:11 GMT 1
My 81 bike was registered historic last year as from April, no road tax fee to pay. You must renew the road tax when you get the reminder as I have just done. Also, you need to SORN if your insurance expires or you are reported for an uninsured bike on the road. As for historic status, I "thought" it was all very straight forward. The DVLA round up the year your bike was built and you can apply for historic status the following April on a rolling basis. So if your bike was built before 1 Jan 83, (any time during 82), you can apply for tax free status from 1 April 23. If your bike was built on 1st Jan 82, you've have a very long wait, if on 31st Dec 82, not long at all. This is from the gov site. Seems to be a lot if issues with different PO's etc.
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Post by rigga on Apr 1, 2023 9:20:45 GMT 1
My 81 bike was registered historic last year as from April, no road tax fee to pay. You must renew the road tax when you get the reminder as I have just done. Also, you need to SORN if your insurance expires or you are reported for an uninsured bike on the road. As for historic status, I "thought" it was all very straight forward. The DVLA round up the year your bike was built and you can apply for historic status the following April on a rolling basis. So if your bike was built before 1 Jan 83, (any time during 82), you can apply for tax free status from 1 April 23. If your bike was built on 1st Jan 82, you've have a very long wait, if on 31st Dec 82, not long at all. This is from the gov site. Seems to be a lot if issues with different PO's etc. Ignore the "substantial changes " not applicable to bikes. YET.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 1, 2023 10:59:35 GMT 1
So, my 4LO was first registered November 1982. I thought, that it now being 2023 that made it over 40 years old and i could just go to the post office and register it as a historic vehicle (wrongly as it transpired). Well, five post offices later, the last one points out that it has to have been first registered before February 1982! I double checked this by phoning the DVLA who, confirmed that in April 2024 i can then register it as a historic vehicle. However i will have to tax it in February 2024 (as that is when it is due) and after registering for historic vehicle tax i can claim back my tax cost! DVLA told me that all post offices are aware of and know all about this, er no they don't! Suffice to say, this is not as simple as i thought, because when i go to register as a historic vehicle my bike will be 41 1/2 years old! Mouse I'd say that's wrong Wait till middle of April and try again A November 82 bike should be excempt from April 23 She has the Feb bit right as a bike reg'd in Jan 82 is the next April 82 Nov 82 is April 23 DVLA are the same as post offices, it depends who you speak to I've had v55 applications refused and sent them straight back with a note but no other documents and they were approved Steve
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Post by lcpete on Apr 1, 2023 11:09:25 GMT 1
I've just got back from the Post Office, I took my V5 and V112, I entered Historic in the tax class and today's date and it was accepted. They gave me a receipt to say that my bike was taxed as nil paid. My bike was first registered on 1st August 1982. I had to go to a main branch as my local Post Office didn't know what to do.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 1, 2023 11:12:33 GMT 1
That's because it is April today
Mouse posted on 30th March so 2 days early
Steve
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Post by mouse on Apr 1, 2023 12:01:14 GMT 1
That's because it is April today Mouse posted on 30th March so 2 days early Steve Thanks Steve. However i was told by DVLA that my bike will be eligible in APRIL 2024! Which will make it 41 1/2 years old. Doesn't seem to make a b****y sense! Mouse
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Post by dc on Apr 1, 2023 12:40:02 GMT 1
That's because it is April today Mouse posted on 30th March so 2 days early Steve Thanks Steve. However i was told by DVLA that my bike will be eligible in APRIL 2024! Which will make it 41 1/2 years old. Doesn't seem to make a b****y sense! Mouse If you see my post above, a bike registered in 82 at "any point" before or after April can apply for historic status on 1st April 23. The whole of 22 must elapse regardless of whether the bike was registered in Jan, Feb or March 82. There would seem to be something wrong with what you have been told. The DVLA round up the 40th year as if all bikes registered in 82 were registered on 31st Dec and you can apply the following April. I really cannot see why they are suggesting 24 so you deserve an explanation alongside the details from the gov website. 👍
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 1, 2023 13:29:41 GMT 1
That's because it is April today Mouse posted on 30th March so 2 days early Steve Thanks Steve. However i was told by DVLA that my bike will be eligible in APRIL 2024! Which will make it 41 1/2 years old. Doesn't seem to make a b****y sense! Mouse What dc said The dvla person was wrong Steve
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Post by dc on Apr 1, 2023 14:24:54 GMT 1
Thanks Steve. However i was told by DVLA that my bike will be eligible in APRIL 2024! Which will make it 41 1/2 years old. Doesn't seem to make a b****y sense! Mouse What dc said The dvla person was wrong Steve Thank you 😂, nice to be reassured because there's a lot of duff info to negotiate from the officials in all these PO's and on this occasion,the DVLA. I have always found the latter to be right on the mark with help and advice. I hope it's just an isolated incident.
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Post by mouse on Apr 1, 2023 15:14:44 GMT 1
Ok, thanks dc and midlife, what you say certainly makes more sense to me!
I'll try again after April 23rd 2023 and i'll let you know how i get on!
Many thanks
Mouse
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Post by mouse on Apr 26, 2023 15:23:42 GMT 1
So, my 4LO was first registered November 1982. I thought, that it now being 2023 that made it over 40 years old and i could just go to the post office and register it as a historic vehicle (wrongly as it transpired). Well, five post offices later, the last one points out that it has to have been first registered before February 1982! I double checked this by phoning the DVLA who, confirmed that in April 2024 i can then register it as a historic vehicle. However i will have to tax it in February 2024 (as that is when it is due) and after registering for historic vehicle tax i can claim back my tax cost! DVLA told me that all post offices are aware of and know all about this, er no they don't! Suffice to say, this is not as simple as i thought, because when i go to register as a historic vehicle my bike will be 41 1/2 years old! Mouse I'd say that's wrong Wait till middle of April and try again A November 82 bike should be excempt from April 23 She has the Feb bit right as a bike reg'd in Jan 82 is the next April 82 Nov 82 is April 23 DVLA are the same as post offices, it depends who you speak to I've had v55 applications refused and sent them straight back with a note but no other documents and they were approved Steve Success! Steve you were spot on! Today i went to the PO and they have sent off my log book, so thanks very much for your sage advice, no more tax for one bike, another two to do next year! Many thanks Mouse
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 26, 2023 15:54:42 GMT 1
Great news 👍
Steve
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Post by stuart2348 on May 3, 2023 7:13:37 GMT 1
Hi guys,
I just bought a 350LC, the previous owner hadn't changed it to historic, so I asked him to give me the whole V5 not just the slip. I took the V5 & current MOT to the post office with my details completed for ownership change and asked him to change the tax class to historic /classic. he asked me to write the word historic on the V5, he stamped it and sent it away to DVLA. I have a post office receipt for the tax at zero, just waiting for the new V5 to come back ....
oh, I went to my local post office in Byfleet village not a main big post office...
Stuart
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Post by dusty350 on May 3, 2023 8:04:27 GMT 1
Hi Stuart, Welcome to the forum. You are very close to a few of us. Mouse is Weybridge, Donkeychomp is Shepperton, MarkRd250lc is Sunbury and I'm Ashford. Paul Beaumont is in Byfleet too, though not on here as far as I know. Enjoy Dusty
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Post by stuart2348 on May 3, 2023 21:30:52 GMT 1
Hi Dusty,
Thanks for the welcome, I saw Paul yesterday for a few bits… I know Paul because I do his wife’s BMW.
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Post by dusty350 on May 4, 2023 7:09:32 GMT 1
You'll know his treasure trove of parts then !! Never seen so much in one place !
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Post by billbott on May 22, 2023 10:45:34 GMT 1
Just to close this thread off: my V5 arrived on Saturday morning with the class changed to historic. So thats over 7 weeks wait!
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