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Post by JMW on Jun 1, 2022 23:05:26 GMT 1
You would hear an LC blatt past and it was smelling either Silkolene Comp or Castrol R.
R had that distinctive smell and it’s missing from my life….
What did R become as it’s vanished without a trace…
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Post by charles13 on Jun 1, 2022 23:48:16 GMT 1
There is a Company called Blenzall (I think) and they make a synthetic castor oil that gets super reviews in the Moto scene over here and smells the same and; is good for injector pumps. I think I will try it because; just like old music, smells seem to wax nostalgic and make me feel good just like when I was a kid.
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Post by JonW on Jun 2, 2022 0:22:38 GMT 1
There are multiple threads on here where people talk of adding it to their fuel tank for the smell. If you do that, just be careful 1, it lowers the fuel to oil ration and 2, it will smoke more... in a world where pollution is antisocial.
Personally ive never cared for the smell lol
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Post by tipfinchy on Jun 2, 2022 9:39:32 GMT 1
if you want the smell try Maxima 927 (for pre-mix) not the easiest to get hold of but a few on ebay sell it , i use it at 50-1 on my Cr500 and any 2T garden tools
mart
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Post by arrow on Jun 2, 2022 9:49:15 GMT 1
About two months ago a made a decision that a pump in hand would be my very last one that had been running Castor oil through it. Why?
1, By the time I had just about managed to clean all the internal surfaces properly it would have been more cost effective to buy a new one.
2, By the time I had replaced all the steel parts that were corroded to fook it would have been more cost effective to buy a new one.
In the future I will just send the pump back untouched, with postal cost only and explain why.
Just saying.
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Post by veg on Jun 2, 2022 10:30:28 GMT 1
Note to self the great smell of Castrol R isn’t worth annoying Gary for 👍
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Post by steve h on Jun 2, 2022 12:35:24 GMT 1
I think it's been banned because it's not vegan friendly. They have to kill castor oil plants' babies (Ricinus communis) to grind them into oil.
Also the word "communis" is deemed to be pure evil and therefore it has been canceled in an act of virtue signaling.
No plants were harmed in this post.
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Post by arrow on Jun 2, 2022 12:46:37 GMT 1
Note to self the great smell of Castrol R isn’t worth annoying Gary for 👍 Hi Veg, as many will know, I don't ride anymore. As always, the advice I give is not for me, but for others. |
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Post by veg on Jun 2, 2022 13:54:21 GMT 1
Gary I’m aware, and I also know that whilst it smells lovely imo it does more harm than good.
I’d also never want to annoy the guru with my ineptitude. 😁
That aside if you’re saying don’t use it that should be all the advice that’s needed.
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Post by JonW on Jun 2, 2022 14:52:41 GMT 1
Gary I’m aware, and I also know that whilst it smells lovely imo it does more harm than good. I’d also never want to annoy the guru with my ineptitude. 😁 That aside if you’re saying don’t use it that should be all the advice that’s needed.[/b] This. Nuff said. |
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Post by philmill on Jun 2, 2022 17:29:21 GMT 1
Castrol A747 smells just like Castrol R, mt brother uses it in his MX bikes, still takes me back to my MX days every time he starts the bike. Only problem is you cant use it on pumps otherwise I'd be running it now.
Phil
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Post by JMW on Jun 2, 2022 18:16:26 GMT 1
Does not compute RD350 fan and worried about the impact of 2 stroke oil  |
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Post by firmstools on Jun 2, 2022 18:40:19 GMT 1
Castrol A747 smells just like Castrol R, mt brother uses it in his MX bikes, still takes me back to my MX days every time he starts the bike. Only problem is you cant use it on pumps otherwise I'd be running it now. Phil I did use to run that on my YPVS with the pump, maybe I just got lucky as I never had a problem. Maybe the next owner did though! |
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Post by shandyboy on Jun 2, 2022 23:17:35 GMT 1
I used R30 all the time on a X7 back in the day through the autolube never missed a beat lol however it was used very day think if it was now would gum up with lack of use
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Post by steve63 on Jun 4, 2022 20:17:12 GMT 1
Castrol A747 smells just like Castrol R, mt brother uses it in his MX bikes, still takes me back to my MX days every time he starts the bike. Only problem is you cant use it on pumps otherwise I'd be running it now. Phil I did use to run that on my YPVS with the pump, maybe I just got lucky as I never had a problem. Maybe the next owner did though! There's a guy I know uses pre-mix oil through the oil pumps on all his RGV250's. Maybe 747. He does a lot of track days and tells anyone who'll listen that he doesn't have any problems. I guess using it in an English winter might be a bit too far though. |
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Post by tacky1 on Jun 4, 2022 21:34:08 GMT 1
We used to put a dab of cooking oil in our tanks back in the day and it gave us the R smell. We could afford to run R. It was pricey 😛
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Post by bazzer5115 on Jun 4, 2022 21:54:43 GMT 1
I run Castrol A747 through the pump on my 1980 Suzuki gp100,done 106,000 miles now,so don’t think it a problem!
I also ran Castrol R pre mix on my classic dirt bike,Suzuki PE175X 1981,which I use regularly for green laning.
After less than 1,000 miles the exhaust sounded very noisy.
A quick look and all the perforations in the silencer were completely blocked up!
I took the cylinder head off and piston crown and head were completely coked up,looked like it had done 25,000 miles.
It may have been a good oil and smell the dogs bollocks in its day,but it sure as hell don’t run clean,and I hate to think what it would do to power valves!!!
Run that one on A747 now,in fact all my 2 strokes run on it including my original Kawasaki jetski.
Got to be honest,that smell of “R” got me into motocross in the 80’s and is probably responsible for my love of all things 2 strokes👍😄
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Post by icarus001 on Jun 5, 2022 8:13:43 GMT 1
I run R40 or Castorene in my old 4T bike, it's the best stuff for it because as an air-cooled bike with open head the more lubricant flying about the better, mineral oil seems to burn off a lot quicker, whereas the castor oil seems to get better the hotter it is. It's a bit sticky when it cools down, but it's a 1930's British bike, you expect it to get oily.
I run fully synthetic 2T oil in my LC, usually Castrol or Motul 710.
I wouldn't run castor oil through the pump because it's too thick when it's cold and wouldn't get hot enough in the lube system to make it less viscous. Castor oil seems to need a decent bit of heat to make it work properly and I'd guess it would end up sticky and possibly block up.
I don't think castor damages ferrous or non-ferrous metals, but as far as I know it is hygroscopic, so it will absorb water when left sitting and I think that mixture is what must be attacking the metals, a bit like ethanol absorbing water and killing petrol tanks.
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Post by veg on Jun 5, 2022 8:35:17 GMT 1
1930’s British bike? What is it? Any chance of a pic? I love a proper old classic and I’d love either a bronze head excelsior Manx man or a rudge.
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Post by icarus001 on Jun 5, 2022 10:22:00 GMT 1
1930’s British bike? What is it? Any chance of a pic? I love a proper old classic and I’d love either a bronze head excelsior Manx man or a rudge. It's this one (on the front page of the Rudge Club website) - www.rudge.club/index.php |
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Post by veg on Jun 5, 2022 10:40:01 GMT 1
That is stunning. I grew up not far from what was the factory it was huge. Used to go to coombe abbey during the late 70’s and 80’s when the rudge owners club used to meet up. Think that’s why I love them.
Lovely lovely bike 👍
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Post by elsiefan on Jun 6, 2022 0:59:10 GMT 1
I did buy a bottle of R back in the day, after smelling it during a trip to Brands Hatch to watch the TransAtlantic Trophy races. I ran a little bit of it as pre mix in my original X7, as well as the pump, but frankly didn't notice the smell, so gave up on the idea.
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Post by icarus001 on Jun 6, 2022 7:41:37 GMT 1
This just reminded me of meeting a bloke on an LC quite a few years ago who swore by Castrol R, he said he'd used it for years in his pre-mix system in his LC without any issues.
Perhaps if it's used daily then the oil is not sitting there long enough to gum up or absorb enough water to cause any issues.
In the late 80's and early 90's my bikes were my only transport, so I used to go to work on them every day and use them for pleasure riding at the weekend, I kept the engines standard and they were very reliable even though I had very little mechanical sympathy and used whatever cheap 2T oil was on the shelf at the petrol station. Whereas these days my bikes get the best of everything but there seems to be always something that needs doing - I hardly use them though and I think 2Ts and vehicles in general are much better if they're used regularly.
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