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Post by dusty350 on Feb 19, 2022 17:56:34 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Feb 19, 2022 18:14:33 GMT 1
If they had been £750 I’d have been surprised but a grand more Jesus h.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 19, 2022 18:24:08 GMT 1
and it doesn't even have the correct reed block rubbers fitted - FFS last set I sold went for £400 about 2yrs ago, think they where on std bore um, I have a 400 E/F crank fully overhauled, wonder what that is worth then  ? |
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Post by fletche36 on Feb 19, 2022 19:38:18 GMT 1
Im pretty sure they will still be for sale this time next year.
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Post by chrisg on Feb 19, 2022 19:38:40 GMT 1
Ebay chancer. Its an asking price but what a cheeky bar steward.
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Post by srhiskx on Feb 19, 2022 20:24:51 GMT 1
2300.00 for a pair of cylinder, that’s a quarter of what I have seen the bikes selling for… Wow!
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Post by rigga on Feb 19, 2022 20:33:03 GMT 1
Market will decide, as mentioned above, they will still be for sale for a while yet.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 19, 2022 20:36:22 GMT 1
Does my t1ts in when people put "rare" in a listing
Do they really think that's what's swaying people to pay large 🙄
Steve
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Post by chrisg on Feb 19, 2022 20:48:08 GMT 1
Does my t1ts in when people put "rare" in a listing Do they really think that's what's swaying people to pay large 🙄 Steve Unfortunately it probably does. If you want a pair of 2R9 cylinders on .25 os your going to have to wait. Ive not seen a pair for a while. 400C/D yes but not 2R9s. |
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Post by steve h on Feb 19, 2022 21:35:30 GMT 1
Bargain! I have a set here...and the correct carbs, hope he sells them at that price.....me me me me me me me me me.
dont bother pm ing me, I'm throwing them away coz they are no good for my 400C.... I cant face upsetting rivet counters.
The guys house has gone up 15% in the last two years...don't hear homeowners complaining?
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 19, 2022 22:02:25 GMT 1
I have a pair in the workshop. Mint with pistons.
Sadly not mine...
Alex
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Post by jon on Feb 20, 2022 10:04:26 GMT 1
I was thinking the same looking at bits on eBay this morning. I always look at sold listings too to see what people are prepared to pay these days. Late YPVS tanks and complete gearboxes are selling for stupid money. I’ve said it before that by the time I finish my latest 2 projects I’m dam sure I won’t be able to afford to build another. I like many others on here enjoy the build as much as the owning/riding afterwards. Some just enjoy the building and sell on once complete ( dusty350 ?). Jon |
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 20, 2022 10:40:23 GMT 1
If I sell my 400 hybrid, I will struggle to find a project that can be bought and rebuilt with the funds available from the 400. I had an offer of 9.5k for the 400 last week,(3k less than what it cost to build) so that's potentially the sort of budget I'm looking at for a future project( buy and rebuild) - I just cant see it being enough now. Lc and Pv engines seem to start around the 1500 quid mark now,(before a 1k rebuild), frames are 600 +, we all know what stuff lists for. I dont expect to see those barrels sell for the starting price, but it serves as a yardstick for anyone with 2r9 barrels, whether we like it or not. Ebay used to be like a virtual "car boot sale", but not any more. It was a great resource in the early days - finding those parts that would never have been found otherwise, or given an outlet for sale rather than rot away in sheds or taken to the tip, but it's now grown into something that can actually hinder our hobby, and propagates greed and over inflated prices. It's a necessary evil sadly Dusty |
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Post by cb250g5 on Feb 20, 2022 10:55:08 GMT 1
That's why I have a £600 KE125 project to do. I enjoy the build & making parts, so I can't justify the cost of another LC based project. My valve cost £400, MOT'd and running & I added a £50 FZR250 chassis to make my mild hybrid. Was 15 years ago or so though.
The KE is on the back burner for a while, as I'm attempting to fabricate a new radiator for the 1927 Scott. Not easy.
Sadly the KE appears to have been a field bike for many years, so although it is complete, it's an amalgam of many not quite matching parts. I've made new wheel spindles & swinging arm spindle, as they were all wrong / butchered. Last job I did was rebuild the wheels, after noting the offsets etc. What I should have done, of course, is check that the rims were central in the bike before starting. I now have a nicely rebuilt front wheel, with the rim about 1" offset from the centre line of the bike. Ho Hum, I'll take measurements & do it again.
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Post by jon on Feb 20, 2022 11:05:05 GMT 1
Yeah it’s a shame. Many may remember eBay maybee 10 years ago, and what RD parts prices were like. It’s simple supply and demand. Back then there was a huge supply and so parts were priced accordingly to sell. If there were say 10 YPVS gearboxes for sale at around £70, then one advertised at £100 just wouldn’t sell. Even if it were the only one everyone knew give it a week or two and another would be listed. Nowadays there may only be one of a certain item at a hefty price, but when no others turn up for months people may cough up. One on eBay at the moment for £300. The sold listings aren’t much better at either side of £200 for the last 4 sold.
In a way though, it’s people like us on this forum that have caused supply to dry up. I dare say the majority of us have more than 1 bike and a hoard of spares to keep it going? We’ve bought most of the bits and now we are at the bottom of the barrel for these spares. Sellers can ask for what they like as there is little competition.
Jon
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Post by veg on Feb 20, 2022 12:22:19 GMT 1
About ten years ago sold a couple of boxes of spares incl two sets of cases, a frame etc etc enough to build a bike but no way a good one for about £250 on eBay my last complete Lc was bought 2015? Matching numbers vgc import for £2200.
The ‘problem’ has been a return to our youth, a fair few on here have always probably had an Lc in our lives I’ve pretty constantly had them since I was a kid, and for the past 20 years pretty much always had one, 31k, hybrids, std Lc etc
There has been an upsurge in desire to revisit‘halcyon’ days as such demand has grown, nd there has been a limited supply.
New owners or those renewing ownership have been encouraged and now we are getting to the point whereby there isn’t much left.
That’s why I’ve got a little humpy about the sales board.
What we should have done is told new owners how crap the bikes are and driven them away 😁
I’m not happy that my bike and bits are worth so much more because I can’t replace them with anything.
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Post by 1966baz on Feb 20, 2022 13:10:31 GMT 1
I sold a RD 400 in tidy nick with mot for £380 about 28 years ago.Oh well.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 20, 2022 14:38:11 GMT 1
Does my t1ts in when people put "rare" in a listing Do they really think that's what's swaying people to pay large 🙄 Steve Unfortunately it probably does. If you want a pair of 2R9 cylinders on .25 os your going to have to wait. Ive not seen a pair for a while. 400C/D yes but not 2R9s. There is no doubt they are rare. My point is that buyers don't need told this, they know fine well Its the way you see rare in the title of something then search for the part and there are another 5 for sale. That's not rare but they put it in the title to try and hoodwink you into buying his 🙄 2r9 cylinders don't need that statement other than to try and justify the ridiculous price Steve |
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Post by veg on Feb 20, 2022 15:02:43 GMT 1
The problem is every time someone through greed increases the price even though it may not sell at that price it sets a new ‘norm’ I know that sold prices aren’t always the same but it changes sellers perceptions and consequently buyers mind sets. Then all you need is someone with more money than sense to snap it up, self fulfilling.
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Post by chrisg on Feb 20, 2022 15:10:56 GMT 1
Unfortunately it probably does. If you want a pair of 2R9 cylinders on .25 os your going to have to wait. Ive not seen a pair for a while. 400C/D yes but not 2R9s. There is no doubt they are rare. My point is that buyers don't need told this, they know fine well Its the way you see rare in the title of something then search for the part and there are another 5 for sale. That's not rare but they put it in the title to try and hoodwink you into buying his 🙄 2r9 cylinders don't need that statement other than to try and justify the ridiculous price Steve All very true. I guess if you dont know what they are, you wont be paying big money. |
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Post by steve h on Feb 20, 2022 15:33:38 GMT 1
There is a way around the problem of greed and inflated prices for those who enjoy a build (prob most of us on here, if not bikes then summat else) First of all, dont pay the prices, then turn your skill/hand to something else. Airfix? wood turning? (you can play with wood to your hearts content making bowls, pencils, pastry rollers and many other exciting things. Or you could have a go at fly tying, making thousands of flies you will never use.... it's not so different to building bikes you will never ride... but cheaper when use use the family dog for hair and your pigeons for feathers. As bare says "no show without an audience" Time to look elsewhere in the bike world for hobby building...one which makes infinitely more sense...big GPZs? Take a look at billbot's  |
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Post by chrisg on Feb 20, 2022 15:48:10 GMT 1
The problem is that most, if not all of us, have an affinity with the bikes we rebuild/ride. So whilst a GT250B is similar to a RD250, at the end of the day its not an RD250 that we grew up with.
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Post by arrdy350 on Feb 20, 2022 15:54:32 GMT 1
It is a pain if you young and are in to these bike and are just starting this as a hobby not knowing what is good/bad normal or not for the prices of parts/ bikes.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 20, 2022 19:41:07 GMT 1
Could be worse, you could have a kettle
Just been over on the kettle club forum and was reading a thread about someone selling a mint set of used gt750 j/k exhausts
He was asking for £3k
People were saying he was taking the p1ss.
They went on eBay at £2950 and sold quickly 😳
Steve
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Post by reedpete on Feb 20, 2022 20:01:59 GMT 1
We need a ‘match maker’ section…. Blokes with project bikes, but not enough time to build them… blokes with time, but no bikes to build !
‘sorry looking TZ350D seeks fine young and able hands to rejuvenate…likes outings and sunny days ‘
’ crashed n smashed ex proddy death skeleton… needs parts bin magician for exorcism mass’
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Post by wassy06 on Feb 20, 2022 21:30:49 GMT 1
The crazy price of parts will get the attention of bike thieves when they realise how lucrative the two stroke scene is. I’d be reluctant to go on a club ride out and leave my bike in an unsecure hotel car park overnight like I have done previously plus it’s not only the good guys that follow social media and it’s surprising how many “ enthusiasts “ will turn a blind eye to the origin of parts offered to them if the price is right.
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Post by arrdy350 on Feb 20, 2022 21:45:18 GMT 1
Could be worse, you could have a kettle Just been over on the kettle club forum and was reading a thread about someone selling a mint set of used gt750 j/k exhausts He was asking for £3k People were saying he was taking the p1ss. They went on eBay at £2950 and sold quickly 😳 Steve Makes me wounder if the person who has brought them will put them on a kettle or just not use them at that price🤯 |
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Post by chrisg on Feb 20, 2022 22:00:49 GMT 1
We need a ‘match maker’ section…. Blokes with project bikes, but not enough time to build them… blokes with time, but no bikes to build ! ‘sorry looking TZ350D seeks fine young and able hands to rejuvenate…likes outings and sunny days ‘ ’ crashed n smashed ex proddy death skeleton… needs parts bin magician for exorcism mass’ There was a chap on the AC site that had enough spares for 2 rd350b's. One of the other members built them both, one for himelf and one for the guy with the bits. Both were very well put together. |
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Post by reedpete on Feb 20, 2022 22:10:41 GMT 1
We need a ‘match maker’ section…. Blokes with project bikes, but not enough time to build them… blokes with time, but no bikes to build ! ‘sorry looking TZ350D seeks fine young and able hands to rejuvenate…likes outings and sunny days ‘ ’ crashed n smashed ex proddy death skeleton… needs parts bin magician for exorcism mass’ There was a chap on the AC site that had enough spares for 2 rd350b's. One of the other members built them both, one for himelf and one for the guy with the bits. Both were very well put together. I know both Neil and Steeve well 😉 |
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Post by billbott on Feb 20, 2022 23:46:21 GMT 1
There is a way around the problem of greed and inflated prices for those who enjoy a build (prob most of us on here, if not bikes then summat else) First of all, dont pay the prices, then turn your skill/hand to something else. Airfix? wood turning? (you can play with wood to your hearts content making bowls, pencils, pastry rollers and many other exciting things. Or you could have a go at fly tying, making thousands of flies you will never use.... it's not so different to building bikes you will never ride... but cheaper when use use the family dog for hair and your pigeons for feathers. As bare says "no show without an audience" Time to look elsewhere in the bike world for hobby building...one which makes infinitely more sense...big GPZs? Take a look at billbot's Funny you should say this Steve. I’ve been having a bit of a stock check and can build a good complete 250Lc motor from spares. The way things are, I might just put it on eBay and buy another GPz with the money, before they inevitably go up in price.. |
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